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please have a look at the production of telephone. :D
I start the game at 1881(a place in the sun) and it is now the year of 1916.
i have converted about 600 pops of capitalists.(80% of them are above size 70000).
I only built factories in six states of china and close all other factories
This is why I suggest stoping educating to capitalits.
 
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And I thought my empire was something special.
 

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And only China can do this. You can't stop China without crippling everyone else, which is why you can't use China to judge the game's economic engine.
 

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Jepsus said:
Didn't someone post something similar about Russia a while ago? I don't remember the details but it was pretty 1337 pic too.

Yes Russia can do that to with their pop growth, though on a lesser extent. They'll have lots of people but they can't build factories in China itself but they could promote all those pops to Capitalists and still capitalize on gaining an insane amount of money. As such Russia wouldn't have the same production level because they wouldn't have the comprable pop sizes in most cases.
 

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Russia also has to contend with having civilized countries around it. I know that with this industry it doesn't matter, but China can annex whoever it wants, Russia can't.
 

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Memnon said:
And only China can do this. You can't stop China without crippling everyone else, which is why you can't use China to judge the game's economic engine.

Sure you can, just add some nerfs to China's inc file, I posted one in this guy's no capitalists thread IIRC.

Also, this production seems large even for China, what patch are you on?
 

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tried to duplicate your results, playing as krakow.
Cheated to make the population that large and to convert the majority of them to capitalists, but even with around 500 million people as capitalists, I can't seem to get my glass production that high... granted I only made a level 10 factory.
The sheer cost of this large amount of pop conversion seems to make this way of playing not worthwhile.
 

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Memnon said:
And only China can do this. You can't stop China without crippling everyone else, which is why you can't use China to judge the game's economic engine.
not necessarily china.any country can do if it rushse china and demand some land tributes.once,I chose hawwi and get 500 thousand industrial score.
 

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Bah ,China in Vicky is like china in EUII.Sure historicly the Chinese did a lot of thing's to fuck up the potential of this country ,but any moderate human player with ambition can turn China in the worlds powerhouse.

and tell us what patch you use!
 

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Darkrenown said:
Sure you can, just add some nerfs to China's inc file, I posted one in this guy's no capitalists thread IIRC.

Also, this production seems large even for China, what patch are you on?
1.03b
this picture is snapped out just after I fought against UK ,GER, RUS, AUS and ITA and the factories don't run their best.this is not the best china can do.I still have excess raw material and lots of farmers and labours.it is just the manufactory of the six biggest states in china.
 
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Waffen9999 said:
Yes Russia can do that to with their pop growth, though on a lesser extent. They'll have lots of people but they can't build factories in China itself but they could promote all those pops to Capitalists and still capitalize on gaining an insane amount of money. As such Russia wouldn't have the same production level because they wouldn't have the comprable pop sizes in most cases.
a good way that enable you to build factory in china is that you send them(the province you get from china) to an independent nation A of asia,and after A grants state to that state,you take it back by force.
 
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TheFlemishDuck said:
Bah ,China in Vicky is like china in EUII.Sure historicly the Chinese did a lot of thing's to fuck up the potential of this country ,but any moderate human player with ambition can turn China in the worlds powerhouse.

and tell us what patch you use!
1.03b
 

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faust_xlh said:
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this picture is snapped out just after I fought against UK ,GER, RUS, AUS and ITA and the factories don't run their best.this is not the best china can do.I still have excess raw material and lots of farmers and labours.it is just the manufactory of the six biggest states in china.
This you dont have to convince me off, I have played China, and have ended up with tons of money, tons of 90k unassigned right culture POPs, and maximum raq materials.
Heck, with china you can easily be making $1k from day one. I am just too lazy to promote every POP.

Now If you add the capitalist exploit to each state :)

How many capitalist you have per state to get to this point?
 

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It's not an exploit. It's an insane step to turn everyone into a wealthy factory and business owner :)