The lack of Good political advisors for the Soviet Union

[N3UTR0N]

Now, I'm not saying I am bad at the Soviet Union, I have played that Nation considerable times already and beaten German Reich many times easily, primarily because the AI is quite bad.

This is just something I'd want to address out. It's that one thing that bugs me about the Soviet Union is the lack of Good political advisors, and especialy I'm talking about the Military staff. The only good military staff the Soviets have is Konstantin Roskovssky, which gives buffs to Armor divisions, but even then It's locked behind the 'Positive heroism' focus tree branch, and even then that specific focus tree branch is bad, because I prefer collectivist propaganda due to It's great buffs to industry buildup, which is very important for mid and late games where you need a considerable military production to be able to maintain all your divisions with equipment.

I think I'm just saying that the Soviet Union really could be great to get a rework or overhaul.

 

[Treviranus]

Yeah, some nations don't really have too many good political advisors, while others have plenty. IMO Portugal has excellent advisors, while others, like a historical UK are a bit lacking. Could that be for balancing reasons?

 

[Evethor]

The Soviet Union is the focus of the upcoming dlc (code named "Barbarosa")

 

[GSS_]

The Soviet Union, along with Italy, has not been worked on since the game came out in 2016. The next patch 1.11 "Barbarossa" is expected to focus on the USSR, but don't expect it before 2021.

 

[DGuller]

I actually like it that way, I don't think every country should have so many good advisers that it turns it into a complete sandbox. It's part of the challenge, just like geography and number of buildings slots. If there is a country that would be deficient in political adviser talent, it should be the one that had a habit of shooting a great number of them.

 

[CrasherZZ]

Didn't Stalin kill most anyone who would've been a good adviser?

 

[Vin55]

Well some yes ofc but new rose up and the soviet union was holding up in after the innitial shock of Barbarossa. After 1943 they (with allied weapons) pushed all of central europe back in 1 and a half years time. So they really should get something like an infantry guy or maybe morale guys I mean they where using mass doctrine with low morale they would have collapsed.
And also some political power gain and alternate Trotzky advisors would be great.

 

[STABBY5]

You get a captain of industry, a popular figurehead and a spy man. Those are all good and you've only got 3 slots. The military staff isn't great but they are all useful. And why do you say that path is bad? 3% manpower gives a lot of men in the soviet union. And 10% research speed. And a plane research bonus. And the Armor genius. The only real buffs to the other side is .5% manpower and 10% construction speed.

 

[ClavintheGreat]

The power creep has become an issue, especially wit leader traits and advisors. Look at Turkey and the SU. Turkey gets people giving ridiculous bonuses that noone has ever heard of compared with Stalin having no spirit and with advisors that pale in comparison.

The Soviets def need better mil advisors, but also nerf the minors. THEY'RE MINORS.

 

[MinhowMinhow]

Stalin having no spirit

Well...

But yes, USSR is lacking in many aspects, specially in a focus tree and advisors.

 

[Idle America]

Give it a few months...

 

[him_15]

Wait for the next DLC, I reckon there will be tons added.

 

[DGuller]

I must be in extreme minority here, but I like the Soviet focus tree, which is evidenced by my current Ironman Soviet game being #96. The problem I have with new focus trees is twofold: it usually overpowers countries, and it leads to overly scripted games. I used to enjoy playing a lot of countries that had generic focus trees, but couldn't get into them once the new over-elaborate trees came out.

 

[Shaka of Carthage]

I must be in extreme minority here,...

Relative to the vocal minority.

 

[Bandua_of_Gallaecia]

Portugal has excellent advisors

True, but on the other hand, all its designer companies are terrible.

 

[GSP Jr]

It would appear that the Soviets get a pretty standard set of army/navy/air advisors, comparable to what the USA had before MtG.
After they get updated, they should get more & better choices let's hope.

What is also kind of sad is the country leaders - Stalin, Mussolini, and Roosevelt do NOTHING for the player except fulfill a requirement for some focus & decision things.

 

[Shaka of Carthage]

Stalin, Mussolini, and Roosevelt do NOTHING for the player

What ability would you give them?

 

[GSP Jr]

What ability would you give them?

I would think that Roosevelt could generate some PP, or Stability, he was very adept at political intrigue, maneuvering, and string-pulling.
Probably not the massive 25% buff a certain dictator gets, but something.
British Bulldog (Churchill) gets PP +5% and War Support Factor +10%.
Baldwin gets PP +5% and Advisor Cost -10%.
I'm surprised FDR didn't get something when they did MtG.

Certainly Stalin should get at least the 'Dictator' trait as Hitler does, (maybe a lesser percentage, maybe just after the purge).
Mussolini, I'm not sure about, to be honest.

 

[Jopa79]

Didn't Stalin kill most anyone who would've been a good adviser?

That's true, but there are still numerous interesting historical Soviet characters whom managed to avoid from different reasons the Great Purge and whom could be presented as Soviet political advisors. To give exact names, here, some certain individuals:

• Aleksandra Kollontai
• Genrik Yagoda
• Naftaly Frenkel
• Eino Rahja
• Otto-Wille Kuusinen
• Akseli Anttila
• Edvard Gylling

 

[Bandua_of_Gallaecia]

I would think that Roosevelt could generate some PP, or Stability, he was very adept at political intrigue, maneuvering, and string-pulling.
Probably not the massive 25% buff a certain dictator gets, but something.
British Bulldog (Churchill) gets PP +5% and War Support Factor +10%.
Baldwin gets PP +5% and Advisor Cost -10%.
I'm surprised FDR didn't get something when they did MtG.

Certainly Stalin should get at least the 'Dictator' trait as Hitler does, (maybe a lesser percentage, maybe just after the purge).
Mussolini, I'm not sure about, to be honest.

I hope they are more creative than just stamping +pp on everyone