The Knights of St. John of Jerusalem / Papalstates AV run

[Fredericus Rex]

Hey guys,

1st of all please excuse my english.

I'm currently playing as the Papal States and trying to get the Holy Trinity AV.
(Holy Trinity As the Papacy, own Jerusalem and have Livonian Order, Teutonic Order and The Knights as Marches.)

My Problem is, that the Ottos already took Rhodes from the Knights. So i can't vassalize them anymore.

Thankfully there is a Event called "The Knights of St. John ...." which allows any nation who owns Malta without being there captial to "revive" The Knights as a faction, if they're catholic and have more than two other provinces.

Trigger conditions

The country:

• is Catholic.
• owns Malta (126).
• owns at least 2 cities.
• does not have Malta (126) as its capital.
• is not a subject nation other than a tributary state.
• is not at war.
• did not have this event before.
• is not Jerusalem if Jerusalem was formed from the Knights.

The Knights do not exist.

• does not own Rhodes (320).
• Rhodes (320) is owned by a Muslim country

This Event happens "Mean time to happen: 120 Months". What does this actually mean? 120 Months after the Ottos extinguished the Knigths?
If yes, didn't i get the decision due to the fact, that at that time my vassal Naples owns Malta?

If no, why as Papal States (Catholic, Malta is not Capital, Provinces < 2) won't i get the decision?

 

[afb]

Mean time to happen means that that is the average time it will take for this event to trigger from the time the conditions were met (in this case, the key components being BOTH you integrating Naples and Ottomans taking Rhodes - so whichever of those came last).

Now, it is only the average time, meaning that in 50% of cases, it will have triggered by then. The games does this by a series of checks (daily, I think, or maybe monthly) where the chance for the event to pop is minuscule, but once it has gone on for 120 months, it will have been a 50-50 shot. So sometimes you might hit it within a day. Other times it will take 120 months. Or 240. Or in theory, you could play through the entire game without it ever happening.

To make it more clear: Say you are rolling a die and need to come up with a 6. The mean time to happen for this would be almost four rolls, since there is around 48% chance of having not rolled a 6 on four tries. But you could roll it the first time around. Or keep rolling and rolling and still not get that 6.

In the game, it calculates it the other way around though: It starts by saying it's a mean time to happen of 4 and then figures out what kind of die to roll.

In other words, you probably just need to be patient. However, if someone that wasn't a subject owned Malta at any point after Rhodes fell, maybe the event happened for them and I don't think it's repeatable.

What about Rhodes? Do The Knights still have a core there? Then you could "just" conquer it from the Ottomans and release them as a vassal.

 

[Fredericus Rex]

Patience one of my great weaknesses.

The Knights lost the Core quite some time ago.
Seems i have to wait know.

The AV run hasn't failed yet, right?

Thx for your answer.

 

[Bibor]

The best way to guarantee this happening is by taking Malta yourself and wait for the event to pop.