The Italian War - An Alternate History Battlescenario

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a.k.a. "The Pope! How many divisions has he got?"

What if Italy was still divided into pre-unitarian states until 1938? What if suddenly war erupted between them?

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This is a battlescenario in which you can find three main alliances: the Kingdom of Italy and Corsica, the Papal State and the Kingdom of Two Sicilies, and the Republic of Lombardy-Venetia. Revolter states include Tuscany, Sardinia and Malta.
I did not develop a precise historical path leading to this situation. I just wanted to make something different from the old Papal North vs. Socialist South in Kaiserreich. I wanted to see the tanks of the Pope rolling in Palestine, Venetian carriers sailing in the Mediterranean Sea and many small nations with interesting historical people that you can hardly see in a standard game.

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Kingdom of Italy: it's the most imperialist and expansionist state. They have a modern and superior army which is supposed to blitz through the enemies defences, but their air force is average and their small surface fleet must be used carefully, while their large submarine forces nibble the enemy ships and convoys.
HoS: Vittorio Emanuele III
HoG: Luigi Einaudi

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Corsica: a recent Italian Irredentist coup d'état aligned this small island with the Kingdom of Italy. Their forces are almost insignificant, but they could be used for sudden attacks in remote areas.
HoS: Dumenicu Carlotti
HoG: Petru Rocca

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Papal State: struggling to survive in the 20th century, the state of the Church developed a strong air force under the influence of worldwide known aviators like Francesco Baracca, Italo Balbo and Ettore Muti. This will allow them to destroy both the enemy armies on the land, and the enemy ships and convoys threatening the territories in Palestine. Their small army and navy need the assistance of their Bourbon allies, although two special units of Knights could make the difference.
HoS: Francesco I (Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani)
HoG: Pedro Segura y Sáenz

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Kingdom of Two Sicilies: their army is very large but badly equipped. Their navy has the numbers to match the Venetian Fleet, but the ships are terribly outdated. It looks like they will need the help of the Pope's planes both on land and at sea. Plus, they have some problems in Sicily...
HoS: Ferdinando Pio di Borbone-Due Sicilie
HoG: Antonio de Curtis di Bisanzio

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Sicily: an uprising led by separatists and mafiamen took control of the island. A division of the army and a small number of submarines and planes joined the rebellion. Their goal is to avoid the recapture and force the Kingdom of Two Sicilies to concede the independence.
HoS: Andrea Finocchiaro Aprile
HoG: Calogero Vizzini

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Republic of Lombardy-Venetia: they have a large and modern fleet that includes carriers and the most powerful battleship in the Mediterranean, the "Bucintoro" which is the flagship of the Armada Veneta. The fleet must take control of the sea and protect the Republic and her dominions, because the army is relatively small and the land based aircrafts have been neglected. The highly trained marines units "Fanti da Mar" have to quickly assault the strategic ports of the enemies and force them to surrender.
HoS: Girolamo Marcello
HoG: Umberto Merlin

This scenario is currently in pre-alpha stage and I won't be able to complete it anytime soon. Plus, I want to add more states, both in Italy and abroad (Albania, some kind of Austro-Swiss kingdom, a nation in the South of France, some more in Spain or Levant...). So I can't say when it will be done and playable. Then, if things go well, I might convert this scenario to a more detailed map.
I'm obviously open to comments and suggestions.
And finally, thanks to NorwayBernd, jamiroquai000 and LincentHarborer for the help with flags & shields.

DOWNLOAD THE ALPHA 0.4 PREVIEW: http://www.mediafire.com/file/2bzqq2a9hko960d/guerreditaliaALPHA0.4.rar

instructions: make a copy of a clean Darkest Hour Full folder, then copy the files and overwrite when asked. This scenario is not compatible with any other mod, except the graphic ones.
 
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Steppen

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Antonio de Curtis??? ahah that's amazing!
 

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I love your idea. It looks really neat and I would definitely play it. Gonna keep an eye on this ;)
 

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I made a French and an Italian cabinet for Corsica. I think that the coup d'état will be represented by an in-game event. I couldn't decide the ideology of the French cabinet or the government type, though.

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Good to see more battlescenarios coming! :)
 

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Looks and sounds good.
But imho, battle scenarios shouldn't have as many playable nations as you're planning. Mostly I really like those that focus on a single war; otherwise if there's too many sides, wars and countries, it feels like it'd be more adapted to just have a full campaign and story instead. I think those you have right now are more than enough and would make for a couple good games, and that you should just work on mainland Italy to increase the number of provinces there and keeping the bigger vanilla ones elsewhere, so the focus of the war can really be Italy itself.
 

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you should include France, Switzerland, and German in there so they can intervene, since Austria has probably dissolved already, you don't need to worry about that
 

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This is a first alpha version of the scenario. It's playable but still rough and unfinished. You can also manually release Tuscany, if you grab it from Italy. Please send me your suggestions!
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No Mussolini? :(
 

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No Mussolini? :(

Eventually, you will find him somewhere, but you'll have to search carefully :D

You should take into account Austrian, and French Empires, as part of this war(s).

I'm planning to include foreign powers, but first I want the bulk of the game to be playable. There will be Occitania, some kind of Austro-Swiss union and an Islamic state in the Balkans. If you have any suggestions, please share them.
 

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I'm planning to include foreign powers, but first I want the bulk of the game to be playable. There will be Occitania, some kind of Austro-Swiss union and an Islamic state in the Balkans. If you have any suggestions, please share them.

Wait wait wait, The Islamic State?!

Ohh... an Islamic state

:rofl:

Personally, I think you should go along with the Mediterranean to begin with, maybe papal holylands could be turned into the kingdom of Jerusalem? Other then that, maybe Greece could become Athens and Sparta, Maybe beyond Italy, along the African coast, the general direction can be smaller Barbari states , Europe you have pretty much explained so Ill leave it at that.
 

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What about when the war starts, the Kingdom of Italy receive some help from Brazil? :3 Let's say that have some italo-Brazilians that would love to fight for their old country
 

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Looks very promising!

A shame that the E3 map isn't quite finished, it would have been perfect for this scenario.
 

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How Far is this going to go? cause I have Ideas, Just dont know the map limits.
 

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could you rename Italia to Sardinia instead? It's not until they are partially united that Sardinia changed its name
 

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Looking good so far keep up the great work! I do have a bug report though: It seems when I do virtually any air force mission in and around Milan the game crashes. Quite odd.