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Re: Re: Re: NA

Originally posted by Mars
You simply didn't have maps to stop Spanish expansion!

Then, if you really roleplay in this campaign you cannot
demand anything from Spain in America. You didn't even
discovered that part of the world by that time Spain had discovered and conquered those territories. So, England doesn't have any rights on those rightfully Spanish posessions.

You have to forget those provinces which already belong
to Spain. Real history is presumed not existing for a
role-playing campaign.


Yeah, British demands on that part of NA are pure
absurdity.
 

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Franco-Spanish friendship

Originally posted by Sikakoira


Spaniards pleased me very much, but because of their policy towards the Austrian menace I didn't want to ally with them.


Thus I would've most probably stayed as a non-allied power.


Well, since France helped Spain during the Civil war, the
Spanish King can reconsider the attitude toward Austria
 

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Re: Re: Re: NA

Originally posted by Mars
You simply didn't have maps to stop Spanish expansion!

Then, if you really roleplay in this campaign you cannot
demand anything from Spain in America. You didn't even
discovered that part of the world by that time Spain had discovered and conquered those territories. So, England doesn't have any rights on those rightfully Spanish posessions.

You have to forget those provinces which already belong
to Spain. Real history is presumed not existing for a
role-playing campaign.

Now Iam realy gettting bored to explain myselt but without the maps I can see that only way to expand later on on north america would have been anyway to declare war to Spanis as on country mode I could see all my colonies surrounded by spanish.

And you speak roleplaying if rumors from Spain court tells that England cant expand on north america without war agaist Spain then how can you say its not roleplaying do you realy think that monarch of that time just decided that if someone was quicker than them to give up any hope to get more land when they had great plans and hopes. What do you think TOT area means it means that Pope gave Spain right to conquer those areas even if someone got there firts. Now if conquer of player areas is forbidden then I ques your right.

Now do you play MP so that you allways forget land if someone gets there firts so you never want something that other have taken before you and never go war against human player?

But this all getting completely wrong way as I made my post because I DONT WANT SEE COMMENTS LIKE "PLAY SP IF YOU CANT TAKE EXPANSION" AND "STOP CRYING" when I made comment saying "Spain taking all of north america" and later asking if France was interested to do something against Spain. Is that realy crying?

Edit: First you accuse me that why I didnt attack Spain and after I explain you start accusing me that I dont roleplay and have made demands toward spanish land what ofcourse isnt true even thought you havent obvioustly read our diplo thread or partisipated on our game sessions still you seem to make allways new accusatios without any valid information so if you know better than I what I have done pleas tell me to.
 
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Originally posted by Evil Spirit
England even unable to discover that part of America.
How can they demand something there?

Now could you people show me when England has made any demands over spanish land in game or in political forum as England havent made any.

So if you cant show those claims you keep talking then dont make accusitions that England has done something it never did!!!!

Edit: Iam happy how Evil Spirit has played Spain and think its making things interesting as Spain decided to go conquering north america and your comments have been fun to read in game thought I waited spanish laughts or insults when England asked spanish maps after Spain told english to go south america :).
 
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No flamewars are needed.


Well, well... What did TD say again.... Can't remember from all those accusations!

It is not bad roleplaying if Brits want a slice of NA as well. Period.

TD, please read the diplo thread before saying anything like that. Spain said she accepted the Austrian greedy expansion policies.

Of course Spain and Austria agree. Habsurgs, remember?

France doesn't want to have anything to do with these pigs. Even allying with the English sounds better now.


What was the problem again? Rezag wasn't impolite at any point.

Please don't get offended that easily. I don't want to say anything about TD's points.
 

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Originally posted by Rezag
Now could you people show me when England has made any demands over spanish land in game or in political forum as England havent made any.

So if you cant show those claims you keep talking then dont make accusitions that England has done something it never did!!!!

Edit: Iam happy how Evil Spirit has played Spain and think its making things interesting as Spain decided to go conquering north america and your comments have been fun to read in game thought I waited spanish laughts or insults when England asked spanish maps after Spain told english to go south america :).


Aren't Britts demanding the provinces in Canada recently
grabbed by Spain?

Anyway, Flamey, who subbed England one session, demanded
even Florida and other Spanish cores in NA. He insisted that
All NA (except Mexico) should belong to Britain. Moreover
Flamey left the Spanish alliance and started aggressive foreign
policy in Europe. That's why King of Spain ordered his men
to march to the North up to Canada and conquer all pagans
on the way there. That was normal reaction of Spanish people
on insolent British demands.
 
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Originally posted by Evil Spirit
Aren't Britts demanding the provinces in Canada recently
grabbed by Spain.

Anyway, Flamey, who subbed England one session, demanded
even Florida and other Spanish cores in NA. He insisted that
All NA (except Mexico) should belong to Britain. Moreover
Flamey left the Spanish alliance and started aggressive foreign
policy in Europe. That's why King of Spain ordered his men
to march to the North up to Canada and conquer all pagans
on the way there. That was normal reaction of Spanish people
on insolent British demands.


I am sorry but I didnt know about Flames demands as he didnt say anything about them and AAR didnt have them only England and Spain both making probosals that were declined but its good you told that :) .

Anyway I didnt make any demands during game.
 

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Originally posted by Evil Spirit
Aren't Britts demanding the provinces in Canada recently
grabbed by Spain.

Anyway, Flamey, who subbed England one session, demanded
even Florida and other Spanish cores in NA. He insisted that
All NA (except Mexico) should belong to Britain. Moreover
Flamey left the Spanish alliance and started aggressive foreign
policy in Europe. That's why King of Spain ordered his men
to march to the North up to Canada and conquer all pagans
on the way there. That was normal reaction of Spanish people
on insolent British demands.

what other spanish cores did I demand? :confused:
 

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Originally posted by casherings
what a devastating defeat..... russia got slammed this game, hope to get better next game.


After certain events (approx. 1560-1570) the state of Netherlands
will appear in Europe. It is going to be a small but very strong
nation with good colonial abilities.
 

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Originally posted by Evil Spirit
After certain events (approx. 1560-1570) the state of Netherlands
will appear in Europe. It is going to be a small but very strong
nation with good colonial abilities.

Well, according to the huge Austrian army, that might never happen...
 

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not all is lost i hope, i will try to make things better onight, had some bad luck in being dowed by all of my neigbours.
but i hope russia has soem nice event coming soon