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Originally posted by Rezag


If you want to conquer the world do it but if other rulers tell they are concerned and might do later somethig to it do not mock them.




Which player namely mocked you? The Evil one or the Tired one?
Or maybe they did that both?

ES did that by grabbing colonies in NA and TD followed him by
giving you advice to fight better for your interests?

I don't see any problem here at all. If England missed some
American territories and as a result not viable any more, just
change the nation. Pick a nation which doesn't collide with
evil Spaniards.
 

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Originally posted by Rezag
Now as this game should have some roleplaying of countries I realy dont like when people say "If you cant take expansion play SP" well as king of England I should be worried when Spain takes all of north america where England too has goals to achieve so expressing Englands concern and geting statements like that realy dont belong in this game.



Why didn't you retake that portion of NA which you consider as yours? If England alone couldn't do that, they should join a stronger power to have their military support. Then you
could fight spaniards more successfully.
 

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Re: NA

Originally posted by UncleJ
Why didn't you retake that portion of NA which you consider as yours? If England alone couldn't do that, they should join a stronger power to have their military support. Then you
could fight spaniards more successfully.


Instead of that, for some reason, he prefered to recreate the alliance with Spain, and after that started to express concern
about North America.
 

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Re: NA

Originally posted by UncleJ
Why didn't you retake that portion of NA which you consider as yours? If England alone couldn't do that, they should join a stronger power to have their military support. Then you
could fight spaniards more successfully.

Its very simple I didnt have maps to do anything to stop Spanish so to be able to get them I would had to conquer Madrid and when France just starts making frieds with Spain England realy didnt want to get in war against both of them.

Originally posted by Evil Spirit
Instead of that, for some reason, he prefered to recreate the alliance with Spain, and after that started to express concern
about North America.

The reason I made alliance with Spain was too very simple France was about to take Bretagne as Englands king France was still greater theath to England at the time Spain had take big but not on England view too mutch of america. And had France started war including Spain it would have allso forced Spain to slow down its expansion on america Later as Spain took all the indians even after England warned them not to go furter England decided to express it concerns to France as I thought it too would be worried and interested to get involved in america.
 
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Re: I didn't mock Rezag

Originally posted by Tired Dude
First of all I would like to say that I am very sorry if Rezag
got offended with my words. I didn't mean something insulting.
I just wanted to say that if you were a real man (not a child)
you should do your best fighting for your interests instead
of complaining that your competitor is pushing you out of an
area. I didn't expect that you were so touchy.

Sorry if you got offended all the same. I should say that more
politely.

Yes I took it wrong but I can play without caring if you remenber I explained myself with smile and didnt anyway complain it but decided to make it clear after session that I dont want see comments like that.

And I dont think its unmature to try get France on Englands side when plannig to go war with Spain even if France and England had bad relatios as Spain was mutch more powerfull than England. But waging war agains Spain and France alone would be suiside as it was clear after Englands expressing his concerns that had i banned Spain out of allience and declared war against it France would have joined on spanish side.

As you realy had good reasons to decline England it would have been great had you just said some of them or something like "No you (english dogs) are useless and France/I dont need anything from you so stop bothering us and do your dirtty job your self" :)
 

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Spain is much better for France as an ally than as an enemy
because only Spain can be an effective ally in the case of a war
vs Austrian menace, Sikakoria so much spoke about. Weak
England cannot be a helpful ally in that situation. That's why
I helped Spain to crush their rebels, trying to involve them
into the alliance with France

I am happy with your decisions as a sub, and have nothing to complain.

Before that session, I was between two. I wondered could I get anything from an alliance with England, because they seemed to be very selfish.

Spaniards pleased me very much, but because of their policy towards the Austrian menace I didn't want to ally with them.


Thus I would've most probably stayed as a non-allied power.

I'm glad you got to play even when my connection wasn't working. Rezag organized the whole thing?
 

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Originally posted by Sikakoira


Spaniards pleased me very much, but because of their policy towards the Austrian menace I didn't want to ally with them.




If you don't want to be allied with Spain, they can join
Austrian alliance instead. So, France should involve Spain
into the French coalition with Italians.

It's just my private opinion.
 

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Re: Re: NA

Originally posted by Rezag
Its very simple I didnt have maps to do anything to stop Spanish so to be able to get them I would had to conquer Madrid and when France just starts making frieds with Spain England realy didnt want to get in war against both of them.



You simply didn't have maps to stop Spanish expansion!

Then, if you really roleplay in this campaign you cannot
demand anything from Spain in America. You didn't even
discovered that part of the world by that time Spain had discovered and conquered those territories. So, England doesn't have any rights on those rightfully Spanish posessions.

You have to forget those provinces which already belong
to Spain. Real history is presumed not existing for a
role-playing campaign.
 
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Originally posted by Sikakoira


Spaniards pleased me very much, but because of their policy towards the Austrian menace I didn't want to ally with them.


Thus I would've most probably stayed as a non-allied power.



Maybe Spaniards supported Austria only because you
didn't invite Spain into your alliance?