The horror of S-Iberia or magical adventures of polar conquistadors

[Krajzen]

This is this exact moment when I got enough of that S-Iberian crap and started crying tears of dying historicity

<upper green is wasteland colored on portuguese green via neighbor provinces>

 

[kraznaya]

Can you link the mod that turns wastelands colors?

 

[Magean]

Off-topic, but what are the conditions for wasteland to get your color, apart from being surrounded only by your provinces ? In my Russian game, the Northern wasteland remained gray for the entire game, and so did the Rocky Mountain Wasteland that my California colony surrounded.

 

[Neoton]

It's not enabled by default, that's why, and enabling it changes the checksum.

 

[Mamluke]

its in defines.lua
COLOR_WASTELANDS = 0, < - change this to 1

search for it with ctrl + f

OR

search for a mod it steam work shops

 

[GrounchoVilla]

In my last game as Inca, AI Moscow got broken early (before I had contact with Europe) and Siberia ended up getting settled by AI Malacca. I did do a bit of a double-take seeing all of that purple up there.

 

[Krajzen]

I don't know why but for some reason while I am great fan of alternate history and sandbox nature of EU4, Siberia colonized by anyone different from historical Russia feels INCREDIBLY WEIRD AND AWFUL for me. Every nation colonizing it feels like the worst possible.

The only nations I have seen colonizing it different from Russia which didn't give me cancer was AI Manchu and my own Japan because that was borderline acceptable due to geographical closeness.

 

[Zqrfmb]

now I want to play a game where I get a land link from s-iberia to iberia proper as portugal or spain

 

[Grand Historian]

This could be resolved (or greatly alleviated) if Russia's Colonist Idea came sooner, and there was a bit more weight for nations to colonize the territories they historically went for (so Portugal won't drop Brazil in favor of the wonderful, trade good rich, tropical paradise known as S-Iberia).

On another note; I remember how people used to complain about Japan being OP, but not only has Qing formed, they've pretty much conquered fourth-fifths of it.

 

[Sidereus]

Perhaps any nation in the area that hasn't taken Expansion could be automatically given a colonist during mid to late game if they border an uncolonized province. (Insert new exploit here.) So if Russia fails, or is slow, someone else picks up the slack.

 

[DVF]

I really hope this is addressed in 1.12, because it's really illogical and looks ugly as hell.

 

[cpm4001]

The easy solution to the issue is to let the AI take Expansion ideas without a port. I've noted that (assuming they even win their first war), Muscovy often fails to take a port province from Novgorod, so they take Religious as their first idea group. Then the stupid limits on idea groups prevent them from taking Expansion until much later, by which time Portugal or Spain is in Siberia.

 

[GrounchoVilla]

I don't know why but for some reason while I am great fan of alternate history and sandbox nature of EU4, Siberia colonized by anyone different from historical Russia feels INCREDIBLY WEIRD AND AWFUL for me. Every nation colonizing it feels like the worst possible.

The only nations I have seen colonizing it different from Russia which didn't give me cancer was AI Manchu and my own Japan because that was borderline acceptable due to geographical closeness.

Perhaps the Malaysians in my game just wanted access to fur coats!

 

[Junuxx]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...ing-events-and-fixing-spanish-siberia.749722/

 

[exenter]

What am I supposed to look at? Qing occupied Portuguese provinces in Siberia, so what?

 

[Weltschmerz]

This happens religiously in all my EU4 games, but the main culprit is Spain. I started a post a few months ago about Muscovy under-performing. I distinctively remember that during the time period of earlier patches Muscovy/Russia routinely became a great power. Now, it seems it fails to conquer even the Khanates, let alone colonize Siberia. Anyone got a tenable theory? Or do my personal games constitute an unrepresentative sample?

 

[Magean]

I don't know why but for some reason while I am great fan of alternate history and sandbox nature of EU4, Siberia colonized by anyone different from historical Russia feels INCREDIBLY WEIRD AND AWFUL for me. Every nation colonizing it feels like the worst possible.

The only nations I have seen colonizing it different from Russia which didn't give me cancer was AI Manchu and my own Japan because that was borderline acceptable due to geographical closeness.

Same here. Even Chinese or Manchu Siberia feels weird, because then the name of the country is written over their huge frozen lands instead of their core territories.
Actually, I could see Perm or the Hordes colonizing Siberia though. Or Japan if only for the coastline.

 

[Vendral]

The moment when I got enough of S-Iberian crap was when I wrestled Siberia out of Portuguese hands as monster-Tver (didn't bother forming Russia because Tver strong) and immediately got like 40,000 Portuguese Nationalists pop up in the lifeless Siberian north

 

[Magean]

This happens religiously in all my EU4 games, but the main culprit is Spain. I started a post a few months ago about Muscovy under-performing. I distinctively remember that during the time period of earlier patches Muscovy/Russia routinely became a great power. Now, it seems it fails to conquer even the Khanates, let alone colonize Siberia. Anyone got a tenable theory? Or do my personal games constitute an unrepresentative sample?

Even at the heyday of AI Muscovy, S-Iberia was a thing.

 

[Magean]

Maybe every AI nation that doesn't have a land connection to a Siberian province should be hardcoded into not colonizing there if there is any empty province elsewhere in the world that's in their range.