Terminator said:
Have just toyed with the map. This is how the Novgorod Republic
should look like with the borders recommended above
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Have just toyed with the map. This is how the Novgorod Republic
should look like with the borders recommended above
Terminator said:
do you believe to conquer whole europe in 5 medieval ages? ;]
i think that novgorod had half of estonia...
According to this map Novgorod didn't have
any lands in Estonia except maybe Voru.
Yes, it should be corrected. Voru to Novgorod.
Thank you for pointing that out.
![europe_map_1200[1].jpg](http://h1.ripway.com/HOI2MOD/europe_map_1200[1].jpg)
any lands in Estonia except maybe Voru.
Yes, it should be corrected. Voru to Novgorod.
Thank you for pointing that out.
Voru
Added Voru to the list of id ## for Novgorod.
Thanks, Deus Eversor for correcting my map.
That circle with the city of Tarpat West of Novgorod
looks like something different. But maybe that was a
vassal of Novgorod ? Then it could be incorporated
in Novgorod too. Let's say the Provinces of Gulbene
and Tartu
Added Voru to the list of id ## for Novgorod.
Thanks, Deus Eversor for correcting my map.
That circle with the city of Tarpat West of Novgorod
looks like something different. But maybe that was a
vassal of Novgorod ? Then it could be incorporated
in Novgorod too. Let's say the Provinces of Gulbene
and Tartu
Just checked the details in the Euroatlas,
it looks like those 2 small states West and
South-West of Novgorod were dependent
nations, i.e. vassals of Novgorod. So, you
are right Deus Eversor, the Latvian
Dagaupulis which is named Jersika in the
map of Europe, 1200, should be also
incorporated in Novgorod along with the
Latvian province of Gulbene and Estonian
Tartu because there are no enough country
tags for all vassals.
it looks like those 2 small states West and
South-West of Novgorod were dependent
nations, i.e. vassals of Novgorod. So, you
are right Deus Eversor, the Latvian
Dagaupulis which is named Jersika in the
map of Europe, 1200, should be also
incorporated in Novgorod along with the
Latvian province of Gulbene and Estonian
Tartu because there are no enough country
tags for all vassals.
Added Gulbene, Tartu and Dagaupulis to the list
of provinces of Novgorod. 40 provinces total. Not
too bad for a Medieval Erupean nation.
of provinces of Novgorod. 40 provinces total. Not
too bad for a Medieval Erupean nation.
indeed just curious how many ic it would be ;]
sad it is that it fell under mongols...
sad it is that kievan rus fell to such many smaller russes...
it has to be corrected ;]
GO FORWARD MEDIEVAL MOD!
as you see some states don't have clear border with others so i propose those states to be in war on start
(about those baltic territories that just shows thet those territories rightfully belong to russia since even today a recognizable part of their population are russians)
sad it is that it fell under mongols...
sad it is that kievan rus fell to such many smaller russes...
it has to be corrected ;]
GO FORWARD MEDIEVAL MOD!
as you see some states don't have clear border with others so i propose those states to be in war on start
(about those baltic territories that just shows thet those territories rightfully belong to russia since even today a recognizable part of their population are russians)
No, Novgorod was the only Russian state whichDeus Eversor said:
survived the Mongolian onslaught and remained
independent. Too many swamps and forests, the
Mongolian cavalry didn't like that terrain, you know.
Deus Eversor said:
That's true.
oh... i was not sure one maps show they were ;\ one show they weren't
ok i just hope i did it wright...
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sry for bad looking but since i couldn't find a good map of hoi world i had to copy paste ;p
i am thinking if it shouldn't it be almost whole northern hemisphere...
1 vikings had colonies in america since 1000
2 it is somehow to make strong mongols who are barbaric nomads without their conquest to asia
but from other side
1 to many countries on that map i just some countries to small that where unimportand and vasalic a part of their masters(other vasals are in same color as masters) and other smal and unimportant gathered in one
2 you can make event "fall of persia" that will secede persia to mongols and that will be beginning of their conquest on map
and germany by events they should fall in group of small countries i propose
1 brandenburg (they will become very important since it is their union with prussia that will unite germany in 1800s)
ok i just hope i did it wright...
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sry for bad looking but since i couldn't find a good map of hoi world i had to copy paste ;p
i am thinking if it shouldn't it be almost whole northern hemisphere...
1 vikings had colonies in america since 1000
2 it is somehow to make strong mongols who are barbaric nomads without their conquest to asia
but from other side
1 to many countries on that map i just some countries to small that where unimportand and vasalic a part of their masters(other vasals are in same color as masters) and other smal and unimportant gathered in one
2 you can make event "fall of persia" that will secede persia to mongols and that will be beginning of their conquest on map
and germany by events they should fall in group of small countries i propose
1 brandenburg (they will become very important since it is their union with prussia that will unite germany in 1800s)
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Yes, that sketch good enough to use it as a basis for making
a HOI map for the mod.
The Mongols should have huge manpower, high org and morale,
good speed for their light cavalry (much faster than European knights)
and brilliant leaders. Also their cavalry should be cheapest in the
world. And they will be all set for a conquest of Eurasia.
a HOI map for the mod.
Deus Eversor said:
The Mongols should have huge manpower, high org and morale,
good speed for their light cavalry (much faster than European knights)
and brilliant leaders. Also their cavalry should be cheapest in the
world. And they will be all set for a conquest of Eurasia.
I was not there for 2 days, but I see you were quite busy. Here are my comments:
Terminator-Sure I can do it. It is possible to change the names and the pictures of the resources. And industry would be changed to manufacturing. Metal, money and rare materials would stay the same. Energy could be change to pure power (Like power of animals and pure muscle power and other primitive energies). Oil could changed to salt since it was a very valuable resource (Accepting ideas).
Antihussite-Yes thats true.
Hannibal Barca2-Well that would be the events that would influence all the states of the HRE.
Lord Finnish-We wont create all the states that existed in this time (There are not enough provinces lol). I was thinking on Luxembourg, Austria, Bohemia, Prussia, Brandenburg, Bavaria, Swiss and Burgundy (Which would be a part of France and Germany).
Rodrico Stak-About the time. I think we would reduce the time. Like one year would be 20-50 years.
Terminator(2)-If it would be just me, I would not change anything specific. Expert events, territories, flags, AI and shields.
Rodrico Stak-You will start to write events as soon as we have a basic map. And giving suggestions is a good way to improve this mod.
Terminator(3)-I would not change any province names. This could be very irritating while playing.
Terminator(4)-We should agree on a time line, so we could better define the time of the events being offset.
Guangxi-Any suggestion helps.
Hannibal Barca2(2)-Go states, fuck the city states lol.
Deus Eversor-Good list.
Terminator(5)-The HRE should consist out of numerous states in an alliance, that would fall apart per an event.
Miihkali-OK you can be assigned doing that.
Terminator(6)-On the start, or after some unification events the Mongols would receive a huge and unadvanced army. They could receive some land from Siberia before invading china (Which consisted out of many parts at the certain time).
Terminator(7)-As I said 1 year would be many years together (That was my idea when I came up with the idea for this mod). The mod would exceed 50 years but those would not be real years.
Terminator(8)-This map is quite good and this map of Novgorod is very good. Would you take the position of making a map for this mod, since Andri has something else to do? Your computer would also provide the base for uniting the files of this mod.
P.S. Could you post all your maps directly on the forum (Not just the link), so the differance could be more visible?
Terminator-Sure I can do it. It is possible to change the names and the pictures of the resources. And industry would be changed to manufacturing. Metal, money and rare materials would stay the same. Energy could be change to pure power (Like power of animals and pure muscle power and other primitive energies). Oil could changed to salt since it was a very valuable resource (Accepting ideas).
Antihussite-Yes thats true.
Hannibal Barca2-Well that would be the events that would influence all the states of the HRE.
Lord Finnish-We wont create all the states that existed in this time (There are not enough provinces lol). I was thinking on Luxembourg, Austria, Bohemia, Prussia, Brandenburg, Bavaria, Swiss and Burgundy (Which would be a part of France and Germany).
Rodrico Stak-About the time. I think we would reduce the time. Like one year would be 20-50 years.
Terminator(2)-If it would be just me, I would not change anything specific. Expert events, territories, flags, AI and shields.
Rodrico Stak-You will start to write events as soon as we have a basic map. And giving suggestions is a good way to improve this mod.
Terminator(3)-I would not change any province names. This could be very irritating while playing.
Terminator(4)-We should agree on a time line, so we could better define the time of the events being offset.
Guangxi-Any suggestion helps.
Hannibal Barca2(2)-Go states, fuck the city states lol.
Deus Eversor-Good list.
Terminator(5)-The HRE should consist out of numerous states in an alliance, that would fall apart per an event.
Miihkali-OK you can be assigned doing that.
Terminator(6)-On the start, or after some unification events the Mongols would receive a huge and unadvanced army. They could receive some land from Siberia before invading china (Which consisted out of many parts at the certain time).
Terminator(7)-As I said 1 year would be many years together (That was my idea when I came up with the idea for this mod). The mod would exceed 50 years but those would not be real years.
Terminator(8)-This map is quite good and this map of Novgorod is very good. Would you take the position of making a map for this mod, since Andri has something else to do? Your computer would also provide the base for uniting the files of this mod.
P.S. Could you post all your maps directly on the forum (Not just the link), so the differance could be more visible?
Delex said:
They will get a huge amount of offmap IC and Recources!! Just remember to change it after their situation in Asia
sorry for that i have different image shack(i do not know why but it is different from yours...)Delex said:
and directly to forum would mean 300/200 pixels and that is just to small...
I use this image hack here and i all ways select the option resize at resolution 1024X768 no matter how big or how small the picture is. When you get the picture select the first link of the lower side (There will be links above and below the posted picture). Try it out with sending the map again.Deus Eversor said:
You are more a nob in this section, not stupid. It is a big difference like having 0 exp and being stupid. Is there a possibility to get a full map of Scandinavia?Deus Eversor said:
Delex said:
Unfortunately I cannot do that. I have neither Doomsday
nor Armageddon. I am on Vanilla HOI2. My stuff is not
compatible with yours.
This is a more or less precise map of HRE for early 1200 s
that gives us 16 countries... ;p
lets make it 8
Burgundy(+franche conte)
Lombardy(+tuscany)
Austria(+carintia)
Bavaria(+swabia)
Franconia(+lorraine)
Bohemia(+moravia)
Brandenburg(+pomerania)
Saxony(+friesia+turyngia)
resize does not work ;p
i couldn't find scandinavian map of 1200... ;\
lets make it 8
Burgundy(+franche conte)
Lombardy(+tuscany)
Austria(+carintia)
Bavaria(+swabia)
Franconia(+lorraine)
Bohemia(+moravia)
Brandenburg(+pomerania)
Saxony(+friesia+turyngia)
resize does not work ;p
i couldn't find scandinavian map of 1200... ;\
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