The HOI2 Medieval mode

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The HOI2 Medieval MOD

The Medieval MOD till now we are at 9,5%​

Now that some people have really started to work on the MOD, and we have nearly reached 10%, I have decided to renew the first side. Here I am going to write current issues of the MOD (which are written on the end of the first side). I also took my time and have renewed the positions of the mod (Or credits, if you like to call it as that. If I have not mentioned you, and you think you are worth of mentioning send a private message to me):

-Map maker: Delex

-Event picture, flag and interface: mumia, Hannibal Barca2, Fernando Torres, Guangxi, kris4o1993

-Scripting, modeling and tech tree: Miihkali, Delex, Hannibal Barca2

-Event makers: Delex, Rodrico Stak, Miihkali

-Enchanted suggestion givers: Terminatior, Rodrico Stak, General_Grant, Guangxi, Hannibal Barca2, Deus Eversor, Miihkali, MaximusII, Fernando Torres, Lord Finnish, rcduggan, Keisok, DarkReborn, Veldmaarschalk, kris4o1993, Kaloyan, Crush3r, IndoEsia45, Hallsten, Spencer_123

Current issues:
-The Russian unification event. If you are interested to make it, post me a private message, so I can post you the details.
-See reply 399. There I have posted some events, that have yet to be made. And some event pictures, would be cool too.
-If you take a look on reply 100, you can see there a nice map of Asia. But the problem is, that it is very hard to find the flags of the nations drawn there. It would be a great help, if you could find at least one of those flags (Already found Kashmir, Sindh, Japan and Mongol empire).

The political map of Europe in the year 1200.​

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Something to bring in some fresh wind​

 

[Andri]

Dude write my name right its not Andree its Andri!!! I should hunt you down and %"&$(#%$%(/$(#%#!!

 

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er i think your gunna have to merge a couple of countries if this is gunna be a doomsday version to many countries

 

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er i think your gunna have to merge a couple of countries if this is gunna be a doomsday version to many countries

But only some as the duchies of Russia and Castilie, Leon.

 

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Some extra information. The territories as Africa and Siberia that will not be owned by any nation on the start, will be under a nation named Bandits, natives and pirates. This nation will be in a war with all the nations right from the start. So we will improvise colonizing and the barbarian invaders. The AI will be changed, so that the nations as the Soviet Union (Duchy of Moscow) or Germany (Probably Prussia) dont get to strong. To make the nations battle each other, the AI will be taken from the Random road scenario. So all nations will DOW each other (Well I think atleast that would be the best solution).

 

[Deus Eversor]

i think that equal ic will suffice for international equality but in real prussia and moscow did get to strong (well prussia did not in time so poland pwned them) moscow slowly conquered all neighbors and made hard time for poland turkey and sweden

besides there is (i think) possibility to make map in the Europe boundaries

is that flaming thing on picture rocket?? ;]

 

[Rodrico Stak]

I volunteer for event maker!

Edit: By the way, making all countries DOW every other country probably wouldn't be the best way to go. There are historical records of wars etc for most parts of the world at this time.

 

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Some extra information. The territories as Africa and Siberia that will not be owned by any nation on the start, will be under a nation named Bandits, natives and pirates. This nation will be in a war with all the nations right from the start. So we will improvise colonizing and the barbarian invaders. The AI will be changed, so that the nations as the Soviet Union (Duchy of Moscow) or Germany (Probably Prussia) dont get to strong. To make the nations battle each other, the AI will be taken from the Random road scenario. So all nations will DOW each other (Well I think atleast that would be the best solution).

Have you considered limiting this mod to europe, north africa and west asia?
like in battlescenarios, except i`m not sure how the other provinces are blacked out : /

 

[Rodrico Stak]

I think I know how we could model the lack of exploration (making world conquest impossible). We could severely limit the range of ships, and add impassible borders for places that shouldn't be passed (such as north Africa to south Africa), and I think that this can be done with sea areas as well. The only exception would have to be Russia so that the Mongols can invade properly.

 

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Well there are 3 possibilities. My possibility make a nation which would control all territories that are not under control of any nation and be in war with all nations. So we would at least improvise colonization. Second do the same just we would delete the territories as inner Africa, Upper Siberia, Australia, Most of both Americas. Third we would limit the territories to north Africa, Europe, most of Asia. Which do you think is the best?

Rodrico Stak-I will add you ass the event maker.

 

[dusan989]

Well there are 3 possibilities. My possibility make a nation which would control all territories that are not under control of any nation and be in war with all nations. So we would at least improvise colonization. Second do the same just we would delete the territories as inner Africa, Upper Siberia, Australia, Most of both Americas. Third we would limit the territories to north Africa, Europe, most of Asia. Which do you think is the best?

Rodrico Stak-I will add you ass the event maker.

First suggestion is the best.

 

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Yo Andri. Here is the pic. Hope you can remember the instructions. If not send me a private message or MSN me. And by the suggestion of Deus eversor add Silesia as cores of Bohemia.

 

[Deus Eversor]

czechs were controlling silesia because silesia was germanised/czechised
silesia should be incored into chechs ;]

 

[Hannibal Barca2]

Well... Good luck!

 

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I have lined out the borders of the nations in Europe (well mostly. For some I dont know the exact borders. Those nations are Burgundy, France, Bavaria, Brandenburg, Poland, Duchy of Novgorod, Duchy of Muscovy, Great Duchy of Litvia (Hope that is the right name), Duchy of Kiev. Well that should be the most of the European nations. The provinces in red or islands are 1 provinces states that are independent. For any propositions make the map in the style below). The list of nations till now (First is the name of the nation, second is the nation that should be used for the nation to make the nation in the Armageddon mode. I think means that it can be changed or im not fully sure that that is the right name of the state):

-Kingdom of England - England
-Duchy of Wales - Wales (Yes it does exist)
-Kingdom of Scotland - Scotland
-Ireland - Ireland
-Kingdom of Portugal - Portugal
-Kingdom of Castilie - Nationalist Spain
-Kingdom of Aragon (Catalonia) - Republican Spain
-Empire of the Almohads - Algiers (I think)
-Emirate of Tunisia (I think) - Tunisia
-Mamulek empire - Egypt
-Kingdom of both Sicilies - Italy
-Papal states - Papal states (The nation can be found in the 34 MOD)
-Republic of Venetia - Republican Italy (I think)
-Republic of Genoa - ? (Any propositions)
-Union of Switzerland (I think) - Switzerland
-Kingdom of Denmark - Denmark
-Kingdom of Sweden - Sweden
-Ottoman empire - Ottoman empire
-Duchy of Greogria (I think) - Greogria
-Kingdom of Cyprus (I think) - Cyprus
-Byzantine empire - Byzantine empire (The nation can be found in the Byzantine mod)
-Bulgaria (I think) - Bulgaria
-Romania (I think) - Romania
-Zeta (I think) - Montenegro
-Kingdom of Serbia - Serbia
-Bosnia (I think) - Bosnia
-Dubrovnik (I think) - Croatia (I think)
-Kingdom of Hungary - Hungary
-Monarchy of Austria (I think) - Austria
-Kingdom of Chezkovia (I think) - Czechoslovakia

The islands connected with a string with the mainland shows to which nation the island belongs. Avignon is a part of the papal state (As Salzburg), I just dont know which of those provinces in the red cricle area is Avignon. If someone could edit the European map as this map shows I would be very thankful. If not I will make the map as soon as I will have time (Like in a month).

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[Hannibal Barca2]

should the Holy Roman empire (Germany) be one nation-dont answerer on that right now.

I think you first should create all the small states and afterwards put in different Emperor events, like when Emperor go to war, he gets extra units FROM the member states.

 

[Lord Finnish]

You should have Finns included. Whole Finland wasn't conquered by anyone until 1400's *nods* An I want my homeland!!!!

 

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looks like a massive task, i remeber an older medieval project.

Also, you might want to include the Moors/Granada, and isn't their one crusading kingdon left in 1200? (besides cyprus)

 

[Deus Eversor]

this should help
http://www.euratlas.com/history_europe/europe_map_1200.html
in left central are arrows click on the one to left and map should change from 1200 to 1300 and then look north west from marseille

indeed there is duchy of finland but map is of 1300 year ;]

 

[General_Grant]

Does it really worth to invest time in this?..

I don't want to be negative, im just telling you my opinion: it will take years to finish that.

You will need to do:
Borders- the 'easy' part, wich you are seeming to consider to do right now.
Modding units- this part will take hours and hours and more hours.
Modding unit icons- you will have to.
Modding sprites- or it would look stupid.
Province names- i don't see the Mongols marching on 'Stalingrad'.
Ministers- yes, it is possible to find one or two pictures of leaders here or there, but you can't make them all. What you will do for the air force ministry, for exemple?
Economy- you can't simulate a feudal economy with an IC system- wich need 'energy' and 'rare materials' to work.

...i conclude than the HoI engine is definitivly not suited for a medieval mod This would be more doable with Vicky, for exemple.

I hope i don't kill your enthusiasm by posting this, but it may save you hours of work for a project than have very little chances to work...