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Measles: can be quite nasty in real life, no doubt worse without modern treatments (indeed probably made worse by medieval treatments). I hope it isn’t too destructive in CK2 - more incapacitating?

I was not quite sure how to handle the measles, actually. I felt it better to introduce it somewhat like camp fever but it was really more of a hook to have Thurfrith down for the count, as it were, and yet still have this fantastic news about his son and now father's namesake. Got me teary eyed at the end myself, it did.

Is is measles or Typhus (camp fever)?

I believe our authAAR confirmed it was indeed measles, but had at first portrayed it a little like camp fever. :)

In my experience (before Reapers Due) measles was a killer disease that was generally the second or third most likely cause of death after random accidents and violent means. Old age came in at fourth.
I think it's because it's so damn catchable. I saw multiple outbreaks in the same kingdom in one decade and that was without much prompting from the AI or me (time of peace, no wicked characters etc) and in the old game before RD, the numbers game was key. If a disease came back, it would kill a lot of people.

It does seem to be written like 'camp fever' but lets be honest, in universe this could just be a bad reaction or misdiagnosis. And because of infections, it could be something else he picked up whilst ill or being treated (which did involve sweat procedures for these diseases).
 

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Fb-fb:

Is is measles or Typhus (camp fever)?

I believe our authAAR confirmed it was indeed measles, but had at first portrayed it a little like camp fever. :)
Indeed, as @Bullfilter suggests above Thurfrith contracted measles though I did offer an allusion to camp fever, him being at siege and with a contagious disease. Of course, I also suggested that it had not yet killed anyone and does thankfully pass rather quickly.

A most moving chapter, my good @coz1 ! I just hope old Beo doesn’t get the same sickness now. He’s not 16 anymore, although I still picture him so. ;)
Funny, I do as well with Beo though he has not been since the end of The Rightful King. :D The odl goat will be alright, I promise. At least for now. ;)

In my experience (before Reapers Due) measles was a killer disease that was generally the second or third most likely cause of death after random accidents and violent means. Old age came in at fourth.
I think it's because it's so damn catchable. I saw multiple outbreaks in the same kingdom in one decade and that was without much prompting from the AI or me (time of peace, no wicked characters etc) and in the old game before RD, the numbers game was key. If a disease came back, it would kill a lot of people.

It does seem to be written like 'camp fever' but lets be honest, in universe this could just be a bad reaction or misdiagnosis. And because of infections, it could be something else he picked up whilst ill or being treated (which did involve sweat procedures for these diseases).
Yeah, it does not seem to be such a killer disease in my game as both people who caught measles were well fairly quickly. Not sure the difference. But with this, I mentioned the rash and then pushed ahead to get to the newborn. Regardless of the specifics, with a contagion, the best thing to do is separate the sick from the well and Thurfrith did this early when he saw the signs before catching it himself.
 

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The Heavy Crown


Bath, England - May 1139


The candle seemed to flicker as Eadward tried to read the parchments laid out before him. Soon after a soft knock came from the private back door to his chamber. Whether from instinct or wistful desire, Eadward seemed to hope that it was his old friend and trusted man Wulfnoth of Flint. Instead, his call to enter showed that it was his new man, the much younger Berold of Normandy. The Duke and master of spies moved into the chamber and held his head low, “Your Grace...I thought that you should know.”

Eadward seemed to know it before it was said, “It is Wulfnoth.”

“Yes, Your Grace...” Berold replied with a sadness, “...he passed just this morning.”

A heavy sigh escaped the King’s lips both in sorrow and truth be told, a relief. There was a great sadness knowing what had befallen his old dogsbody, but Wulfnoth was also the only man aware of the many things Eadward had done in his life. Many things that he did not feel pride over and would wish no other to know. Still, Eadward gave a nod and stood to fetch two cups of ale, “We should drink to his memory, my Lord. Wulfnoth was a trusted companion for many years.”

“I know it true, Your Grace,” Berold answered as he accepted a cup, “I say again to you that he did teach me much.”

“Glad I am of it,” Eadward held forth his own cup and knocked it to the other, “To Wulfnoth of Flint. A better man you will not find. Unorthodox in his ways but he did serve me well.”

Berold followed the King’s lead in drinking to the memory of Wulfnoth and then sat his cup aside, “You do stay up late in the night, Your Grace. Do you be troubled?”

“No more than usual,” Eadward gave answer as he sat once more, “Still waiting to hear good word from Wareham.”

“At the least your nephew Thurfrith has come through his pain and is restored,” Berold suggested.

The King gave nod, “There is that and happy am I to hear that he has had his own son. A fine boy, I am told and named after my younger brother.”

“A fitting tribute, surely.”

“Quite...” Eadward agreed but with another sigh, “...yet my other nephew still will not yield even after the death of his mother...my sister.”

Berold nodded his head with understanding, “Mayhap more intractable because of it, Your Grace.”

With a wave of the hand, Eadward finished his ale and placed the empty cup aside, “It is war. I have lived through many. It will end when it does end and all we may do is wait for that day.”

“And I remain in my promise, Your Grace...” Berold took a step towards the King, “...you will be the victor at that time.”

Eadward gave nod, “I hope it true. As I have you here now, I wonder if you have words to speak on that other thing?”

“On Lord Eadric and our Lady Ada, Your Grace?” Berold asked knowing the answer to come.

“The very ones,” Eadward shifted in his seat and arched a brow to his master of spies, “Also your friend...our Lord Harold.”

Berold was quick to answer with certainty, “On that score I may say that I have found nothing to show that any ill mannered action is to be seen. I have had words with Lord Harold and find his answers to be sound. Also have I had my men to the courts of both Lady Ada and Lord Eadric. Nothing to be found there either but a match made between two young and eligible suitors. If anything, I hear it told to me that the match was of particular interest to the Lady’s father, the Prince Godfrey of Scotland. It seems that he was most insistent. The Duke of Kent being so young...well, his people were quite pleased to find such a match.”

“I imagine they were,” Eadward kept a skewed brow, “I have sent Lord Harold to take their measure. Do you think me wise to do so?”

“To be sure, Your Grace,” Berold was quick in his reply, “I suggest that there is no reason to distrust Lord Harold in any way. He does serve you well in all that he does.”

Eadward stood to refresh his cup, “A tough life as Lord Chancellor.”

“You would know it well, Your Grace,” Berold gave nod.

“Indeed I would,” Eadward answered over his shoulder as he poured, “And mayhap it remains a sting that the young Lady would not wish my side instead to prefer another.”

Berold shifted and stood tall, “I think not that you should consider such things, Your Grace. I do not believe that this was that at all. It is my understanding that Lady Ada would have been well pleased to be at your side were it not for her spiritual concerns. Yet she did require marriage as you have said so yourself. And to my knowledge, she has still not met her new husband in full for he remains at your service to Bamburgh.”

Eadward turned back with a nod, “We shall then see what Lord Harold finds from these men of Kent. I will suspect him no more. I am old, my Lord Berold. I think to see shadows now and then when mayhap they are not there.”

“I see no fault in your concerns, Your Grace,” Berold answered quickly, “Understand them I do and would look into each and every one of them.”

“You do well, my Lord,” Eadward moved back to his chair, “And besides, I think our Lady Ada to have a handful of it at the now. I am told a new rebellion rises within Derby.”

Berold agreed, “Her chancellor, Your Grace. The Earl is not well loved by his people, especially after their brush with heresy.”

“My last word from our Lord of Gloucester before leaving for Kent was that Earl Oscytel was raising a force in the name of our Lady to fight these discontents,” Eadward suggested as he pushed some papers around in front of him.

“Godspeed, I would say, Your Grace,” Berold was quick to suggest, “You need not this uprising in the midst of our struggle.”

Eadward gave nod, “No...I do not. At times I do wonder...would it not be better to have my son by law as Earl there rather than this elder brother of Rose?”

“Eadræd does well to Bamburgh, Your Grace,” Berold offered with approval.

“And yet I would leave it to the Lady of Lancaster to sort out her court,” Eadward replied with resignation, “She has her bed and she would lay within.”

“Your Grace...” Berold took another step towards the King, “...you should not have worry over these things. They will be sorted. I remain in my promise. Kent is sound. Even with this rebellion, Lancaster is sound. Your nephew Eadweald will lose his challenge and York is greatly pacified due to your great sight in looking after their interest. Look as well to Germany...your nephew of Meissen even looks to be ahead due very much to your support. Rest easy your mind for it is cared for in every way.”

Eadward considered the words and found agreement but looked to his master of spies with a sharp eye, “I would do my part and I know well that you would do yours. Yet remember our man Wulfnoth of Flint. At some times...it does become dirtied. One must be at the ready and not blanch when the time does come. I did never wish this chair, but it comes to me at the now. I must wear this crown with every heavy burden it does bring and I would not shy away when adversity shows itself. I expect no different from anyone else.”

“Rest assured, Your Grace...I am at the ready,” Berold moved to pick up his still nearly full cup and held it high, “To the memory of Wulfnoth.”

Eadward found a brief smile as he did likewise, “To Wulfnoth.”

 

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“I say again to you that he did teach me much.”

Now is it just me, or did Wulfnoth teach Berrold some things that Eadwerd might wish he did not?
 

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“I say again to you that he did teach me much.”

Now is it just me, or did Wulfnoth teach Berrold some things that Eadwerd might wish he did not?
This is exactly what I've been thinking. He has said this a few times now. A few times too many for it not be a possible hidden threat, I dare say.
 

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“I say again to you that he did teach me much.”

Now is it just me, or did Wulfnoth teach Berrold some things that Eadwerd might wish he did not?
This is exactly what I've been thinking. He has said this a few times now. A few times too many for it not be a possible hidden threat, I dare say.
It could well be. Maybe it was more about “techniques” than specific details. But Berold could draw some fairly accurate general conclusions and look at past events with a discerning eye. Indeed, in his role, you would expect it: and the king hints that he must be prepared to offer similar in the future. And his performance of such duties must be in keeping with the times - ruthless and with few scruples. But, if he tries to blackmail the king ... well, his star would likely fall very quickly.

Good points though - better Berold should have eyes open. Especially if he keeps his post during the succession, when it comes. He may end up having to do as much or worse than Wulfnoth ever had to! :eek:
 

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More peasant revolts. They seem to be an unhappy lot in the Midlands.

I generally agree with @Bullfilter 's take on Berold/Wulfnoth - the old man likely never revealed the plots, but if Berold pays attention to detail, he can probably surmise some similarities with how some of the other lords met their end.

I think he is also kind to Lord Harold, as I would think his joking of the affair to be grounded in reality - he likely knows of something, but does not ruin his fellow lord. I wonder if that comes up again...
 

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I think he is also kind to Lord Harold, as I would think his joking of the affair to be grounded in reality - he likely knows of something, but does not ruin his fellow lord. I wonder if that comes up again...
This is my ongoing concern too: if he doesn’t watch out, Harold could bring down Berold with him. Eadward will think either he should have found out - when specifically asked to investigate - but didn’t (therefore not up to the job) or did know and was covering for his friend, for whom he had more loyalty than for his liege and employer (therefore almost a traitor and definitely not worthy of trust as Spymaster).

Berold may eventually be forced to choose ... act in the King’s interests, or stick with his friend and suffer the possible consequences. And he can’t decide when the cat’s already out of the bag: too late by then. Wulfnoth would have already been reporting his suspicions and closing in on the scent like a bloodhound.
 

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Fb-fb:

“I say again to you that he did teach me much.”

Now is it just me, or did Wulfnoth teach Berrold some things that Eadwerd might wish he did not?
I suppose there is no way to know for sure other than me saying so outright. I have suggested that Wulfnoth likely kept the innermost secrets, but one cannot discount a deathbed confession. However, it is unlikely because I never suggested Wulfnoth was a particularly devout man. ;)

This is exactly what I've been thinking. He has said this a few times now. A few times too many for it not be a possible hidden threat, I dare say.
I suppose when I have Berold say that about Wulfnoth, it is more in reference to tactics and ability rather than secrets of the past. I've not really had chance to portray Berold as ruthless like I did with Wulfnoth, but that is not to say that I will not in future. That being said, few men are as ruthless as was Wulfnoth.

It could well be. Maybe it was more about “techniques” than specific details. But Berold could draw some fairly accurate general conclusions and look at past events with a discerning eye. Indeed, in his role, you would expect it: and the king hints that he must be prepared to offer similar in the future. And his performance of such duties must be in keeping with the times - ruthless and with few scruples. But, if he tries to blackmail the king ... well, his star would likely fall very quickly.

Good points though - better Berold should have eyes open. Especially if he keeps his post during the succession, when it comes. He may end up having to do as much or worse than Wulfnoth ever had to! :eek:
An excellent consideration, sir. Indeed, I have implied techniques over details. But you are right, Berold is rather smart and could easily begin to piece together the details. The question is, would he ever do anything with them? So far, he has Eadward's ear likely more than his other advisors at the moment given his latest distrust of Harold over the Ada thing. Also a reason I have had two straight scenes between them and them alone to show that closeness. However, that is always subject to change. :D

More peasant revolts. They seem to be an unhappy lot in the Midlands.

I generally agree with @Bullfilter 's take on Berold/Wulfnoth - the old man likely never revealed the plots, but if Berold pays attention to detail, he can probably surmise some similarities with how some of the other lords met their end.

I think he is also kind to Lord Harold, as I would think his joking of the affair to be grounded in reality - he likely knows of something, but does not ruin his fellow lord. I wonder if that comes up again...
Re: Berold and Harold, you need only look to the next scene coming tomorrow. ;)

And yes, Derby has been a problem for some time. Before now, it was rooted (or at least I portrayed it as) in the heresy of that county. Yet now that they have converted back to the true faith, I am at a loss why they would keep at rising. As mentioned (or will mention) perhaps they just don't much care for their Earl, Oscytel of Rose. Part of the reason as well that I have portrayed him as I have. (I wish too that the Earl of Derby had a different name so as not to confuse with Oscytel of Wessex in Meissen, but that is what the game gave me.)

This is my ongoing concern too: if he doesn’t watch out, Harold could bring down Berold with him. Eadward will think either he should have found out - when specifically asked to investigate - but didn’t (therefore not up to the job) or did know and was covering for his friend, for whom he had more loyalty than for his liege and employer (therefore almost a traitor and definitely not worthy of trust as Spymaster).

Berold may eventually be forced to choose ... act in the King’s interests, or stick with his friend and suffer the possible consequences. And he can’t decide when the cat’s already out of the bag: too late by then. Wulfnoth would have already been reporting his suspicions and closing in on the scent like a bloodhound.
There is no doubt that Wulfnoth would have handled the entire Harold/Ada subplot differently. Yet another reason I chose to end his days here as I have. Of course, the entire affair itself was entirely made up and not part of the game, but once I went down that route, I had to come up with a believable reason why it was not discovered, especially when Ada's father was able to suss it out. Thus, that early friendship I tried to build between the two Dukes, Normandy and Gloucester. So far, it stands as it was. The next scene may start to change that.


To all - Some interesting looks at the above scene and its implications. I suppose when we are dealing with anything revolving around Wulfnoth, one must always have their suspicions. :D So too when looking at the Harold/Ada subplot which as mentioned above, will continue in the next scene arriving tomorrow. It is a two-parter so it runs a bit long but I thought it best that they be read together. The first scene is short enough so hopefully it works. It will also give light on the ongoing war vs. Eadweald (as well as with the revolt in Derby) so quite a lot is packed within. Hope it is enjoyed.

As always, thank you so much for the excellent comments and following along each time. I know I move quickly and steadily so it is very much appreciated to keep you coming back for more, especially with your surely busy schedules. Thank you again! :)
 

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To reach back in time to refrence A Scotsman in Egypt, this sort of thing happened between their intelligence chiefs and spies all the time. It was one of the most entertaining parts of an already amazing AAR.

Its actually a M2TW AAR but its sublime if you havent read. Give it a look.
 

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To reach back in time to refrence A Scotsman in Egypt, this sort of thing happened between their intelligence chiefs and spies all the time. It was one of the most entertaining parts of an already amazing AAR.

Its actually a M2TW AAR but its sublime if you havent read. Give it a look.
I'm afraid I have not seen that one.
 

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The Heavy Crown


Lancaster, England - August 1139


Ada of Lancaster followed her marshal from the kitchens as they made their way outside and into the soft morning light. The cooks paid them no mind, though some few might have wondered why their Lady was down amongst them at this time of the morning. While she wore a hooded cape, her auburn hair was unmistakable underneath and Earl Eadberht of Gwent was the very picture of a soldier as he led her. Yet silent they remained until they reached the small chapel that she had built at Lancaster and Ada stopped her man.

“Do you be certain that this is safe, my Lord?”

The Earl offered a kind face, “My Lady...you had your wish and for the love that my father had for your mother, I would try to do the same for you.”

“My father remains abed?” Ada asked in a worried tone.

“There are none but servants and soldiers awake at the now, my Lady,” Eadberht suggested with a smile, “As the Prince Godfrey is neither, you should hold no worry there. I assure you...every precaution is taken.”

Ada offered the hint of a smile, “You are kind to me, my Lord Earl. I do thank you.”

“I would serve you in all ways, my Lady,” Eadberht bowed his head for a moment, “Though I might rather be to Derby protecting you there.”

She held a gentle hand to his chest, “You do serve me better to here, my Lord. I know well your distaste of Lord Oscytel and his worth is surely challenged at the now after such a disastrous defeat at the hands of these rebels...”


Earl Eadberht tried to hold in his frustration, “A chancellor should not do the marshal’s work, my Lady.”

“Yet they be his lands of Derby...” Ada reassured, “...his rebels. I would have him do his part for my realm. And besides...this be more important to me.”

“It remains a great risk, my Lady,” Eadberht offered a plea in his eyes.

Ada gave nod, “I know it true. That is why I must needs have my staunchest defender near by to me when it is done.”

“I would be right out here, my Lady,” her marshal gave bow and then looked to her with sureness, “He remains inside where I have placed him. Look ye to the confessional. I did not think to put you at any risk of being seen. Yet pray be quick...the priest is at the now in his morning ritual but will soon be to the chapel.”

The Duchess of Lancaster placed her kind hand upon his shoulder as she braced herself. Taking the few steps, she pulled open the heavy chapel door and walked into the quiet sanctuary. Moving slowly to the side, she walked down the aisle and met the confessional door with trepidation, but with a breath opened it and sat inside. She heard breathing coming from where her priest normally sat and it seemed as if her heart skipped a beat. Then he spoke.

“An odd place to meet, my Lady.”

When she did not say a word at first, Lord Harold finally allowed, “I am neither priest nor confessor yet I would like to hear your voice all the same.”

“I could not be seen with you...” Ada offered with halting breath, “...not alone.”

“We need not be alone to see one another,” Harold suggested with a hint of levity in his voice, “I would see you anytime and anywhere with whomever you might wish.”

Ada looked briefly through the screen but could make out few features of her lover and remained silent for a time before finally blurting out, “My Lord father knows.”

“How could he know?” came the reply beyond the screen as Harold was shocked, “Did you tell him?!”

“I had no need for he did suspect,” Ada answered feeling a tear come to her eye, “I did say no thing but we have not been careful enough. Word would get out...rumors...”

“Kitchen gossip by servants!” Harold was certain.

Ada reached towards the screen but brought her hand back to rest in her lap, “It would matter not by whom, my Lord. It is now a thing done. We must no longer...”

“So this is why you were married in such haste...” Harold replied with annoyance through the screen, “...this is why I am now to Kent to look into your Lord husband.”

With sudden concern, Ada looked again to see if she might spy Harold’s face, “Do you think that the King suspects?”

“Do you think that your Lord father would tell him?” Harold questioned just as quickly.

Ada was quiet again before answering with a soft, “No.”

“Then we should not find fear from that quarter,” Harold regained a confidence, “For some time our Lord Berold has found his suspicion. At first it was but a game for his pleasure, and then sadly a request from His Grace himself for he is well displeased that you did not think to marry him.”

“What does Lord Berold say at the now?” Ada asked with worry.

Harold was calm in response, “He would not break our bond I do not think. He did say that he would hold his tongue for my sake...for yours.”

“Yet he would know...” Ada remained worried, “...did you confess?”

“Not in words...but I fear that my eyes did betray me,” Harold suggested with disappointment in himself.

Ada was quick to hold her hand to the screen if only to gain a closer chance to touch at Harold, “That is why, my Lord...my sweet Harry...that is why we must never be seen alone again. My Lord father does already forbid it and...”

“You are the Duchess of this land,” Harold answered with certainty, “He is but a Prince of Scotland. What may he say to you when you do rule here?!”

“He may say plenty...” Ada used her other hand to brush at her wet cheek, “...and then some more.”

Ada could see the outline of a face as Harold moved closer to the screen, “What do you tell me? You are now to your husband and no other? This...our time...is done?”

“I am sorry...” Ada felt fresh tears as she caressed the screen as if it were Harold’s own face, “...I must take my leave of you...my Lord.”

Harold was quick in response as he too held a hand to the screen and it seemed as though they were touching at each other, “Nay...stay a bit longer!”

“It is a more permanent leave...my Lord,” Ada was now crying in full and making no pains to stop it, “We cannot...this must not...”

When she did not finish in her tears, Harold held his hand to touch at hers through the screen, “Please do not weep, my Lady. I cannot bear it!”

“I cannot...” Ada struggled through her sobs until she finally blurted out “I am sorry!”

Harold had not time to answer as Ada pushed open the confessional door and ran from the chapel with great heavy tears.


* * *

Bath, England - September 1139​

Lord Berold sat in the now empty great hall at Bath and nibbled at the last portions of a cheese plate. A fine day it had been too as the King was in good spirits after receiving word from Prince Beorhtmaer that the siege at Wareham would soon end. Eadward had hastily prepared a fine feast for the few barons left to Somerset, mostly the old and very young and their ladies. The quiet was soon disturbed however as a harsh voice called out to the echoing hall,

“You told him, did you not?!”

Berold turned to spy his friend Lord Harold approach with an angry eye, “Why would you do such a thing? I considered us boon companions!”

“And we are,” Berold threw a leg over the bench and gestured for Harold to sit, “What is this, Harry? What’s got into you?”

Harold stood tall with a flushed face, “Was it jealousy or some thing other? Perhaps more of your adolescent games?”

“Come now, Harry...” Berold shifted to pour a second cup of ale to slide over towards his fellow Duke, “...sit and lets us talk. I know not of what you speak.”

“You would not know of events to Lancaster?” Harold remained enraged, “You think to secret away to there and speak of my time with the Lady Ada to her Princely father!”

Berold pinched his brow, “I did no such thing and I dare say I like not the accusation!”

“How then would he know?” Harold softened slightly, “Why then did he rush his daughter into marriage to one so young as the Lord of Kent?”

“I say to you again, Harry...sit,” Berold tried to mend the hostility, “Tell me what has happened.”

Harold suddenly lost his anger and slowly moved to sit to the bench with dejection, “It is a thing done. She would no longer see me alone.”

“She has told you this?” Berold asked with curiosity.

“Sadly, she has,” Harold replied with a long face, “I found way to meet with her thinking that we were taking the utmost of precaution, and yet...it was all so she may tell me that we are finished.”

Berold found a shrug, “She is married now, Harry. And if Prince Godfrey does know of you two, then surely she is frightened that others may soon find out as well.”

With white knuckled fingers wrapping around his cup, Harold once more offered a sharp eye as he considered flinging the ale into his friend’s face, “It is easy for secrets to find their way into the open when a tongue does not stop wagging, sir!”

Sensing what might be about to happen, Berold placed his hand firmly over his friend’s cup, “Have a care...you nearly spilt your ale. You should drink of it instead and not find blame where it does not belong.”

“I find blame where it is most likely,” Harold pulled his hand away and backed away from Berold on the bench, “There are few men to this realm with the reach that you hold...my Lord. I know not how any other might have this knowledge.”

Berold allowed a grin, “It is a fine thing that I am master of spies and that you are not, sir, for I do not find my secrets in the open. I think perchance that yours do for you did not take care enough.”

“We were careful!” Harold suggested with certainty.

Not so certain was Berold, “If I may sense it after just some few visits by you to the north...if the King did find his question...”

“You told me that he did not suspect that!” Harold leaned forward with wide eyes, “You did say to me that you talked him away from that at any rate!”

“That I did,” Berold gave nod, “Yet there were signs enough for him to suspect so I gather much the same did happen with the Lady’s father.”

Harold considered it as Berold took a long pull of his ale and then moved to pour another, “Frankly, Harry...this is all for the best though I know that you like it not. You should be back with good Hera and let not this...interlude...sour things with the King’s daughter.”

“Jesu!” Harold answered with alarm, “You do not think that she does suspect as well?!”

Berold shook his head, “I may know not. No thing of the sort comes to me from my letters by Hextilda. If anyone would find dear Hera’s confidence, it be my Lady wife.”

“I think to have been a fool!” Harold threw his other leg over the bench and rested his head in his hands on the table.

“Come now, Harry...” Berold placed a kind hand to his friend’s back, “...the sweet smell of cunny is enough to make any man lose himself and follow after the scent for leagues as a dog does sniff after his prey.”

Harold batted away Berold’s arm, “You would not speak so of the Lady Ada!”

“Very well,” Berold remained composed, “Then consider this...the chance for the gift of some sweet kiss from a fine Lady is well nigh impossible to resist and you should not curse yourself when any other man might have done the very same. Let not your heart be troubled, friend. Leave Ada her doings and be her Lord Chancellor and no thing other. And make amends with your Lady wife, whether she knows why or not.”

“I say to you that she does not know...” Harold began to say but they were interrupted as shouting grew louder from outside the hall.

“The whoreson! There may be no way he be my nephew! No kin of mine would find such cruelty at my expense!” Eadward was shouting to his Lord Marshal Thoræd as they walked into the hall and the King was shocked when he spied Lord Harold sitting there, “What is this? I had thought to tell you that I wished you to Kent, sir!”

Both Dukes quickly stood and bowed and Harold was quick to answer, “You did, Your Grace...and yet I had need to travel to the north to look into this rebellion to Derby. It is grave for the Earl there, I am told.”

The King raised a brow as he looked to his Chancellor, “That be all it was, my Lord? Not some thing other?”

“Nay, Your Grace. Only that,” Harold replied just as quickly.

Berold shot his friend a quick look before answering to the King as well, “Indeed, Your Grace...Lord Harold was just telling me of the terrible defeat of Earl Oscytel to these rebels at Derby. A dreadful thing.”

“You think that dreadful?” Eadward waved a hand to dismiss his previous concern for something else weighed on his mind far more, “Then you would not wish to know what has just come to my ears. Our Lord Eadweald has found way to fund more mercenaries for his foolish pleasure. Wareham is nearly ours and yet three thousand more foreigners sit to Wilton at the now, landing not a weeks past!”

“My God!” Harold’s face whitened, “My Lady Hereswith!”

Eadward held out a calming hand, “Take a care, my Lord. She is safe. I had a mind to send her to Norfolk to be with her brother while this war is on. She was glad of it for she is apparently rather lonely without her Lord husband at her side.”

“Most kind of Your Grace,” Harold replied sensing the question in the King’s voice, “Very well considered. You would know the travel required and I am heartsick that I am not to her side more often.”

“Indeed,” Eadward answered with a raised brow once more.

Berold was quick to intercede, “Yet these mercenaries, Your Grace...what is to be done?”

“They will be dealt with in time,” Eadward answered with a hint of a smirk that betrayed the irritation in his voice, “My brother would gift to me Wareham and then fall on these sell swords with the mightiest fury.”

“And yet...what of Wiltshire, Your Grace?” Harold asked with continued worry, “Surely the countryside is plundered if this be true.”

Eadward began to move past his men, “I would see to Wiltshire, my Lord. You have other concerns. I have told you...I wish you to Kent.”

“Fear not, Your Grace,” Berold replied as he held out a hand to stop his friend from responding, “Your trust in the outcome is most correct. Though your nephew does vex you so, he will be the one lost when all is said and done.”

The King was quick to turn, “He does vex me...yes. Frightfully so. I would see it that you Lords make sure that no other does me such grievous harm. I put it to your hands so leave off this cheese and ale and get to it!”

Both Dukes made a bow as the King left the hall with his Marshal and then looked to each other with wide eyes.

 

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Oh what a twisted web is woven when grown men to women's wiles are behoven ...

Ok, that might not scan the best, but I am sure you get my meaning.
 

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Harold had better watch out now - or he will become known as a Cocksman and the Duke of Quim! And it is good for him that Berold is so even tempered: it seems they have had a personality transplant, where once Harold was the frivolous one and Berold the flighty jokester. It must be the alluring scent of cunny, as Berold rather earthily (and I think most appositely for the times) remarks.

One more such misdemeanour and Harold’s reputation could be shredded, and one more such hot-headed insult could sour the friendship in a moment of irrationality. With both, years to build, a few seconds to lose.
 

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England always held the potential to have a great soy network and it seems they're finally building one. Once it's established and loyal, the nobility is screwed. The king will know all their dalliances and heresies. They can either stick to the straight and narrow or sin and be beholden to him. Most will probably pick the latter.

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At the fear of repeating my previous comment, Berold is rather kind, arguably too kind, to Harold. I do believe him when he says he did not alert Ada's father though - the pair simply were too careless to avoid suspicion, which is much of the battle.

If they wished to abandon the siege, they could hit those mercs when they have low morale. Otherwise, I'd expect Eadward's men to finish off the siege then just link his two armies and crush the mercs. But yes, a troublesome nephew who seems to be quite skilled and discovering new cash reserves to pay for his men.
 

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Oh what a twisted web is woven when grown men to women's wiles are behoven ...

Ok, that might not scan the best, but I am sure you get my meaning.
Even Brother Nylan cannot be perfect with every word of his chronicle. ;) But yes, this has led Harold down a very troublesome path.

Harold had better watch out now - or he will become known as a Cocksman and the Duke of Quim! And it is good for him that Berold is so even tempered: it seems they have had a personality transplant, where once Harold was the frivolous one and Berold the flighty jokester. It must be the alluring scent of cunny, as Berold rather earthily (and I think most appositely for the times) remarks.

One more such misdemeanour and Harold’s reputation could be shredded, and one more such hot-headed insult could sour the friendship in a moment of irrationality. With both, years to build, a few seconds to lose.
There was some thought that the two might come to blows at some point and even if these were merely words, the threat is still there as you say. Berold does his best to help at this time, but if Harold tries that again, it might not come out so well for him. Especially given how Berold has tried to stick his neck out for Harold with the King.

England always held the potential to have a great soy network and it seems they're finally building one. Once it's established and loyal, the nobility is screwed. The king will know all their dalliances and heresies. They can either stick to the straight and narrow or sin and be beholden to him. Most will probably pick the latter.

The borders are filthy across so many countries. Some cleaning work is required.
I've had a pretty good spy network for awhile, both in game and in story with Wulfnoth and now Berold. Still, some things may still get through the cracks.

At the fear of repeating my previous comment, Berold is rather kind, arguably too kind, to Harold. I do believe him when he says he did not alert Ada's father though - the pair simply were too careless to avoid suspicion, which is much of the battle.

If they wished to abandon the siege, they could hit those mercs when they have low morale. Otherwise, I'd expect Eadward's men to finish off the siege then just link his two armies and crush the mercs. But yes, a troublesome nephew who seems to be quite skilled and discovering new cash reserves to pay for his men.
I admit that I considered that very thing but Wareham was so close to falling, I thought I had time. Turns out, I didn't even need to link armies thankfully. I'm not sure where Eadweald is getting this gold but it sure pissed me off.


To all - You can now see why I linked these two scenes as one followed quite naturally after the other. Had the Ada scene been a bit longer, I might have split them but it turned out just right. With Ada, there really was nothing left to say when I considered her bursting from the chapel with tears flowing. And I rather liked how Eadward walks in on his men late in the piece just to give a little extra info and sew more suspicion with Harold. Poor guy (perhaps.) Harold cannot seem to catch a break these days, but then again, he did rather bring all of this on himself.

Excellent comments as always and thank you very much for them! The next scene will arrive tomorrow and was an interesting one to write. Harold travels down to Kent and we finally get to meet some of old Æthelmær's extended family. I enjoyed doing that back research. Look forward to it, I hope you all do.
 

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I've had a pretty good spy network for awhile, both in game and in story with Wulfnoth and now Berold. Still, some things may still get through the cracks.
Like Harold! ;):D
 

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The Heavy Crown


Dover, England - October 1139


Though it had not been his first time to Kent nor even to Dover Castle, Lord Harold always felt the imposing stature of the built out keep and its massive walls to be awe inspiring. He considered that was very much its purpose not simply for any foreign invader but so too the peoples that lived within this land. No expense had been spared outside nor in and as Harold waited in the solar, a warm hearth roared with a large fire and he had been seated in lavishly covered chairs embroidered of rich cloth from Flanders and made of the stoutest wood in the realm.

He had not long to wait as soon the door opened and in walked the young Lord Eadric’s chancellor, the Earl of Leicester and Surrey. Leofwine of Godwin was a well dressed man much older than Harold himself. Nearing fifty years, he walked with a slight limp resulting from a wound received some years back in the fight against raiding northmen. The old Earl was followed by his slightly younger brother Robert who was the Earl of Sussex and Eadric’s master of spies. Where Leofwine might stoop, Robert stood tall with a broad chest and a full bushy beard.

They both gave bow to the great Lord before them and Leofwine then smiled, “I am pleased to see that you have been offered refreshment, my Lord Chancellor.”

“Indeed I have,” Harold offered a quick bow of the head, “Though odd to find this Flemish wine served instead of good stout ale.”

Robert stepped around his brother to fetch his own goblet, “My Lord Eadric, like his father before him, does enjoy some fineries from the continent. I am told that the late Queen did as well. Not so strange as that.”

Harold looked around to the richly decorated walls of the solar, “I dare say I did never see the halls of Norfolk so finely adorned, sir. Our Lord of Kent does have expensive tastes.”

“His father did...” Earl Leofwine suggested as he took a chair by the hearth and bade Lord Harold to sit, “...as did his father before him. I beg you would excuse my rudeness, but I must rest my gammy leg.”

“Indeed,” Robert shifted to stand behind his brother’s chair, “Our uncle Lord Æthelmær the Elder did enjoy his spending though he was mighty frugal when Lord Steward to the King.”

“As expected of him,” Leofwine followed and then perched a hand to his knee, “Yet we bandy fine words about when we wish to know of the young Lord at the now, Lord Chancellor. What news from Bamburgh?”

Harold took a slow sip of wine and then answered with a smile, “I’ve little to offer that you might not already know, sirs. Lord Eadric does continue to support the King’s choice of commander to the north, as does Lord Robert of Flanders. They acquit themselves well, as I hear it. Bamburgh would fall within the month I should think.”

Both Earls smiled and Robert clapped Leofwine on the shoulder, “Fine news as I said it would be, brother. Our young Lord does show his spirit!”

Leofwine was less enthusiastic about the news but kept his smile, “Very well met words indeed, my Lord...and yet, what of our good King’s brother to Wareham? I have heard that some rude sell swords do look to your own lands of Wilton and threaten our great good fortune.”

“Would that Wilton were Dover, sir...” Harold sat back with a pensive sigh, “...I’ve not the fine walls that have been built here. Yet I think to see them held off until our Prince Beorhtmaer does move from the south.”


“Few men do hold such fine walls,” Robert suggested as he moved to sit at a window seat, “Neither of us would see it, would we brother?”

Leofwine kept a keen gaze to Harold, “My brother would wish his own keep to Sussex built out as well, yet does lack the funds. You see...we are the lessor Godwins of Kent.”

“You need not tell me such sad news,” Harold replied with understanding, “We do remain kin, you and I. After all, we all do share the female line.”

“You may hold to that, my Lord...” Robert suggested from his perch, “...yet we do not hold the good fortune of a direct lineage to King Harold as you do. Our grandfather was rewarded by his brother as our father was by his. Such is always what does happen to the second son.”

“Not always,” Leofwine found a grin and looked again to Harold, “Yet there is truth...we all be the blood of Godwin the Earl. We are everywhere and nowhere at once, are we not?”

Sensing some discontent Harold leaned forward in question, “You would not wish us more, would you?”

“Oh...Bless the Virgin, no!” Leofwine answered with an honest face, “It is not that at all. It is simply that we must work all the harder as you must know yourself. It be no easy task to be servant to the King as our uncle knew well. We are but Earls and do what we are able to serve our liege Lord, young though he may be.”

“And yet newly married,” Harold smiled to hide the discomfort he felt at such a fact, “A right fine bride he did find as well. Tell me, my Lords...how did you manage it?”

Robert stood to refresh his goblet, “It was not difficult, my Lord. The Prince of Scotland was most insistent and who were we to quarrel? The Lady of Mercia?!”

“Lancaster, sir,” Leofwine corrected his brother and then looked back to Harold, “Yet it is true that we found quite a nice dowry in the effect. You must know that the Lady Ada was the most eligible bridegroom in the whole of England and we were frankly shocked at the entreaties. But the Prince came with him a strong case and we could not deny it.”

“Of course not,” Harold answered nearly biting his tongue in the process, “A fine match, to be sure. It is a security for Kent as well, I should think.”

“That it is,” Robert moved back behind his brother’s chair, “We may have some wealth here in Kent, but we have not what sits within Mercia. If there is an assist, it is our strong trade with Flanders and yet the Emperor does continue to hold Boulogne and threatens us still. And now...what occurs in France, my Lord...”


Harold held up a hand, “It is a pox on the world and I may say that it seems even worse at the now as I hear tell that this scoundrel Roubaud does find some control over his Lords. Yet...our Lords of Normandy and Flanders might see that before you.”

“We do remember years past,” Leofwine offered a slim curl of the lip, “Safety is not always guaranteed and we would do what we must.”

Robert moved around his brother’s chair with a worried look upon his face, “I hope you do not say that His Grace is displeased with this match?”

“He would have wished to sanction it,” Harold shook his head to calm the man’s concern, “Yet he would hold no barrier to what is desired and that be to see the Lady Ada betrothed and married.”

Leofwine raised a brow with a slight grin, “I hope that be his only concern.”

“Might I have some more of that Flemish wine?” Harold ignored the suggestion and held up his goblet to Robert.

The Earl was only happy to receive it and moved to pour him another, “You do know her well, do you not? I am sad to say that we have not that fortune. Truth that I have had men there to make contacts, but she is a reserved sort and we may only speak to her men...Eadberht of Gwent...or that sad sack, Oscytel of Derby.”

“Very sad what occurred to him, was it not?” Leofwine leaned forward.

Harold allowed a sorrowful brow for them both, “The Earl of Derby does smart at his loss, but these are but rebels for who knows what cause. Likely without one but their own sensitivities. I put no stock to them.”

“And yet...” Leofwine kept an inquisitive eye, “...you might tell us of what you know of the Lady?”

Accepting the full goblet, Harold did all he could to fulfill his role with a pleasing countenance even as he simmered inside, “She is...the most attractive figure and your Lord will be most pleased when they have finally...found their union.”

“It will be some time for that,” Robert suggested as he moved back to the window seat, “He would stay to Bamburgh or who knows where else until the war is done.”

“And I might ask again, my Lord...” Leofwine sat forward in his chair, “...There is truly no distrust from His Grace the King? We are well disposed at the now and would wish no rancor nor to sully his great achievement. You would let us know if otherwise.”

Harold looked to them both as they looked to him, all with curious eyes and begging knowledge. He wanted to tell them to bugger off as he remained sad and angered at what had been displaced within his life but he knew that was not an answer. A part of him wanted to push the most vile rumors such that they might question their choice...but that would not do either. He could not answer in full faith that he sanctioned the match himself because he did not and instead sat back with no smile and finally answered, “You should hold no worry from His Grace. He be well pleased.”

“And you harbor no distrust yourself?” Leofwine was quick to ask.

“Why should I?” Harold asked with a bit more of an accusatory tone than he wished.

Leofwine sat back with a firm smile, “I should think none, my Lord. It is well matched and we all be one happy family.”