Nice overview on the reinforcement of Irish-American relations. I've already saw (with pleasure) a mention of the Debs Presidency. Do you have a little list of US Presidents?
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Good thing when the King is handsome and doesn't spout random nonsense like some other consorts we know. Also, pre-television era certainly aids with spin control.
Ireland and the States in an alliance?! Heresy! 
I must say I'm surprised that there were no attempts at murdering the king.
I must say I'm surprised that there were no attempts at murdering the king.
Bah, let the privileged and monied rub shoulders together. I have no doubt that soon these shoulders will be separated from their heads!
This made me thought of how socialists fared in Ireland, if at all. Perhaps this visit might open doors to greater co-operation between American and Irish socialists. Possibly a dangerous development.
I apologise for the lack of updates recently - problems both computer and tooth related have kept me busy.
So, since we are entering the last Act of this little drama and a convient Great War doesn't look like happening just yet does anyone have any (reasonable) suggestions where they would like to see me turn?
So, since we are entering the last Act of this little drama and a convient Great War doesn't look like happening just yet does anyone have any (reasonable
) suggestions where they would like to see me turn?
Tooth trouble - eek! I hope you're feeling better!
So, since we are entering the last Act of this little drama and a convient Great War doesn't look like happening just yet does anyone have any (reasonable
Well, you could just end things peacefully and usher in an age of peace and prosperity...
...or you could stab the States in the back and unleash Gotterdammerung!
PS - only just caught up with this and enjoyed it!
I've read through this story and must say I really enjoy it.
Could you post a world map of the your world currently or direct me to it if I'm being blind? That could help in suggestions in future directions to go.
Thanks for writing this story.
Could you post a world map of the your world currently or direct me to it if I'm being blind
? That could help in suggestions in future directions to go.Thanks for writing this story.
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An update sir?
I dare suggest being a bit interventionist and 'encouraging' such a war. Load up the game as various Great Powers, set up some alliances and let it all go potty.
I would quite like a Sino-American-Central Powers vs. Entente-Irish knees up but that doesn't seem to be very likely at this point sadly.
I dare suggest being a bit interventionist and 'encouraging' such a war. Load up the game as various Great Powers, set up some alliances and let it all go potty.
I would quite like a Sino-American-Central Powers vs. Entente-Irish knees up but that doesn't seem to be very likely at this point sadly.
I just went through this in one sitting and I have to say it is fantastic.
Consider this an over the top sub to this AAR.
Also first post
Consider this an over the top sub to this AAR.
Also first post
I came across this bookmark and finished the AAR up to this point. I'd love to read more, but you've done 75 years of game time and I've loved every minute of it.
Thank you. Looking forward to a Vicky2 AAR if you decide to do one.
Thank you. Looking forward to a Vicky2 AAR if you decide to do one.
Hi guys.
I've been strongly thinking about a Vicky 2 AAR - I love the fact that in Vicky2 navies are actually useful - but I do want to finish off this story (if anyone is still interested.) I'm thinking of a few ways to liven up the last couple of decades.
I've been strongly thinking about a Vicky 2 AAR - I love the fact that in Vicky2 navies are actually useful - but I do want to finish off this story (if anyone is still interested.) I'm thinking of a few ways to liven up the last couple of decades.
Eastern Troubles
(1912 - 1914)
Emperor Yoshihito of Japan
(1912 - 1914)
Emperor Yoshihito of Japan
"China is changing every day - and never to our advantage."
- Declan Fitzgerald, Governor of Zhangjiang
The young Chinese Republic was not loved in Dublin. Few indeed outside China had wept at the fall of the Qing dynasty but their replacements where cause for alarm and none were more alarmed than the Irish with their huge stakes in China. Quite apart from the colonies themselves - and Zhangjiang was the second largest city in the Empire - the hidden stakes were almost as large again. The Sino-Irish Rail Company alone had invested millions into China and its shares collapsed after a (false) rumour struck that that the Republic intened to nationalise the embyronic Chinese railroads.
Furthermore there where still many in Ireland who saw the changes in China as being at the hand of another power looking to seize control of the Middle Kingdom (Middle Republic?) via its catspaws in the Peking government. Initially the finger of blame had pointed at the United States but as always the sinister shadow of Russia loomed in the background. Yet by the end of 1913 even the evergreen threat of the Tsar would become less of a preoccupation than one power that was a lot closer to events in China and had no European distractions: the Empire of Japan.
The Japanese had not spent the decade since the Korean War idly. To begin with they had come into their own as a naval power. Japanese admirals had poured over the lessons of the Battle of Cheaspeake Bay (more than Irish admirals as events were to prove) and had comissioned warships from British shipyards. Understandably this had provoked unease in Dublin, but distracted elsewhere the Irish Government had little time to pay the attention that the situation meritted. There was besides a certain disbelief that Japan would dare tangle with the mighty Irish Empire so soon after tasting Irish steel. So for the most part Japan was ignored.
In early 1913 the political shockwaves in the Orient began to be felt in Dublin. The state of Shanxi with its capital in Jinan had launched a rebellion against the Chinese Republic. William Martin Murphy - at sixty-eight still keeping a firm grip on the Irish Goverment - was quick to recognise the independent statelet and implied Irish money and perhaps even soldiers in their campaign against the Peking regime. It was a disastorous mistake; by September Shanxi had been overrun by Republican troops and the capital was expected to fall soon. The Irish PM had backed the wrong horse, convinced the Chinese Republic would crack apart. Instead it had proven it's strength, Ireland had been humilated and the rash promise to aid Shanxi had reduced perecptions of Irish strenngth throught the Far East.
The Shanxi Affair was not the only reason that Clann Éireann lost the November 1913 election but it didn't help. The liberal National Centre Party under the leadership of the dynamic and popular Willie Redmond (younger brother of former prime minister John Redmond) had fought a great campaign promising rapproachment with China, social reform and a scale down on military spending. At fifty-two Redmond was a comparative boy after the fossilized William Martin Murphy regime and the promise of a fresh approach was welcome to many.
Almost at once things started to go wrong. In December 1913 Jinan surrendered and the Chinese Republic had not been merciful to the rebels. This swung the sympathy of the Irish public around again and made any attempts by Redmond to warm relations with China very unpopular. The following month the Emperor of Korea publically requested the Irish dispatch troops to his country to help ward off Japan. Privately Redmond thought the Emperor excessively paranoid but the Irish public, already in ferment over China began to demand punitive action be taken against Japan.
An artists impressions of a Japanese invasion of Korea, a scenario both feared & widely expected in early 1914.
The true crisis arrived in June. On 12 June two Korean ministers in Japan to discuss payment of the Korean debt to Japan were stoned by an angry crowd and one died. The following day the Japanese consulate in Seoul was burned to the ground by a Korean mob. The Japanese navy promptly declared an embargo of Korean goods and on 1 July Japanese warships began a naval blockade of Korea. On 4 July a Korean merchant ship was sunk by the Japanese while trying to evade the blockade.
Few in the Irish Government wanted war but what could they do? Ireland had treaty obligations towards Korea and even if no Japanese troops had yet landed this was war by all but name at this point. Besides the country in jingo mood was demanding that Japan be taught a sever lesson. On 2 August 1914 the Irish Goverment sent an ultimatium to Kyto demanding Japan withdraw her fleet from Korean waters. It went unaswered and on midnight 4 August (Irish time) Ireland declared war on Japan.
The Far East at war, August 1914.
Interesting, but if Ireland is this timeline's version of Russia, does this mean that we'll see a radically different Irish Civil War? One that sees Vladimir O'Lenin take power in Dublin?
Anyway, a really good update (though the last paragraph or two could use a little bit of editing to fix up the language a little), and it's great to see this resurrected.
Anyway, a really good update (though the last paragraph or two could use a little bit of editing to fix up the language a little), and it's great to see this resurrected.
Interesting, but if Ireland is this timeline's version of Russia, does this mean that we'll see a radically different Irish Civil War? One that sees Vladimir O'Lenin take power in Dublin?
Anyway, a really good update (though the last paragraph or two could use a little bit of editing to fix up the language a little), and it's great to see this resurrected.
Vladimer O'Lenin? Nah.
Big Jim or Connely however.....
OT A good update and well worth the wait.