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Hello!

The purpose of this thread as you might have guessed is to share with you all the single greatest mosaic ever made. I could have put this thing in a post on any number of threads, but it deserves its own. First of all some background:

The Legend of Romulus and Remus:

I'm sure you all know this tale, but here is a little refresher anyway:

Romulus and Remus were born in Alba Longa, one of the ancient Latin cities near the future site of Rome. Their mother, Rhea Silvia was a vestal virgin and the daughter of the former king, Numitor, who had been displaced by his brother Amulius. In some sources, Rhea Silvia conceived them when their father, the god Mars, visited her in a sacred grove dedicated to him.Through their mother, the twins were descended from Greek and Latin nobility.

Seeing them as a possible threat to his rule, King Amulius ordered them to be killed and they were abandoned on the bank of the river Tiber to die. They were saved by the god Tiberinus, Father of the River, and survived with the care of others, at the site of what would eventually become Rome. In the most well-known episode, the twins were suckled by a she-wolf, in a cave now known as the Lupercal. Eventually, they were adopted by Faustulus, a shepherd. They grew up tending flocks, unaware of their true identities. Eventually they would go on to found Rome... but that is another story.

Mosaics in Roman Britain:

While books could and have been filled with studies of mosaic manufacture in Roman Britain, it suffices to say there were two main schools: one based in Cirencester down in modern Gloucestershire, which produced many of the highest-quality mosaics found in Britain. The other was based in modern Yorkshire at Petuaria on the Humber, their mosaics were, to put it nicely, not quite as good - as you will now see.


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[Mosaic depicting the she-wolf with Romulus and Remus]

Just look at his glorious work, this masterpiece of Romano-British art. This mosaic for the ages comes from Aldborough, known back then as Isurium Brigantium, the civitas of the Brigantes after they became Romanised. Yep, someone of status in the Brigantes paid for this and then evidently loved its derpy little face as much as me and didn't have it immediately ripped up and the makers flogged.

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I mean just look at this face. From the horror-movie mouth to the cartoon-character-hit-with-a-pan nose and those wide, empty eyes. Look at it and tell me this isn't Moon-Moon's Roman ancestor.

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Is it just me or does the base of this tree look a lot more like the bottom of an old-fashioned lamp post? Either these workmen predicted the future or they didn't know what a tree looks like.
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While the lamppost/tree trunk can be overlooked, what in the name of all that is holy is this. That is quite clearly the back legs of a horse. Not a wolf. A HORSE. Did they start this mosaic as something else? Or did they really not have any idea what a wolf looks like and just make it up as they went along? Honestly, at this point I suspect the latter.
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And finally we have the crowing glory of this glorious bastard. Romulus and Remus themselves, who rather than suckling at the wolfs none-existent teats have decided to do the only sensible thing run away from this unholy monstrosity as fast as their chubby little legs will carry them. Yep, this wolf spurred them to learn how to not just walk, but run, as babies.


I hope you will all agree with me that this is the single greatest mosaic ever to be made (Alexander at Issus, I'm sorry). To any devs that read this, please, please find a way for this glorious thing to be in the game - be it as an event, achievement or even a traumatic loading screen. It, and its makers, deserve it.


TL: DR

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What I really, really wish, is that I could go back in time. That I could find young Gaius, who had just completed this work. And that I could explain to him that in two thousand years, once most of the world that he new was dead and ashes, we would still remember the Roman Empire. We would gaze in wonder at the Colosseum, and read the works of Cicero and Pliny, and walk Hadrian's wall. For centuries people would copy Titus' arch and Trajan's column.

And also we would have his mosaic. And we would laugh, and be happy that while the Roman may have crushed the known world under their sandals, their mosaic artists couldn't tell a she-wolf from a clown-horse. And you Gaius - that is how you are remembered by history.
 

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I saw this when I wrote my master thesis. It gave me nightmares - nightmares which you, sir, have probably brought back!

It tells the little known story of the undead clown-horse from the depths of Tartarus mascarading as a wolf, sent by the scorned wife of Mars, to stop Romulus and Remus in their tracks.

Thankfully, they were demi-gods, so they realised the danger and bravely ran away!

EDIT: I am of course joking, except about the first part
 

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I saw this when I wrote my master thesis. It gave me nightmares - nightmares which you, sir, have probably brought back!

I know your pain, I found it back when I was still in school. Been tormenting my friends and their dreams with it ever since!
 

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Mhm I have to say it's quite particular... Could it be it was an apprentice that this work...if it was I wonder if they let him keep on working or they fired him!
Judging by a number of other mosaics found in Roman Britain they kept him on. Sadly though none of them quite equal this, his magnum opus. It's like Tommy Wiseau made films after The Room, but none of them have ever been quite so hilariously bad.
 

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Judging by a number of other mosaics found in Roman Britain they kept him on. Sadly though none of them quite equal this, his magnum opus. It's like Tommy Wiseau made films after The Room, but none of them have ever been quite so hilariously bad.
Ahahahah maybe he went to study a bit in Sicily and learnt a few tricks.
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A scene from the hunting mosaic...well execpt the dog... at Villa Romana del Casale in Piazza Armerina in Sicily
 

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Ahahahah maybe he went to study a bit in Sicily and learnt a few tricks.
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A scene from the hunting mosaic...well execpt the dog... at Villa Romana del Casale in Piazza Armerina in Sicily

My god.

Wikipedia claims that villa and it's artwork come from the early 4th century AD. So probably around AD 300 - 350.

The Aldborough mosaic dates to around AD 300. This can't be a coincidence.

Also that dude looking over the bush with his hand on his head. I think that is a representation of all of Ol' Gaius' s customers when they see the finished mosaic
 

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The only thing better than the mosaic ( :eek: !!!) is the commentary. I had a very manly giggle through the thread.
 

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Haha even beats medieval Lion art :D

Came over this reading the other day:

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"One must say that Pliny had fanciful notions about the creatures that populated the islands in the Northern Sea: "on which men are born with the feet of horses, and called Hippopodes. Others called Phanesii, who, being otherwise naked, have immensely great ears that cover their whole bodies."o_O:D
 

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Event suggestion:
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Some interesting information on it here:
http://romanaldborough.co.uk/project-1/

"This was discovered in the 1840’s near the East gate of the town but was not published by Smith in 1852. In 1862 it was reported by Charles Moore Jessop to be in the possession of a bricklayer in Boroughbridge with “fanciful additions.” A local mason called Lonsdale had relayed it as the floor to a summer house in the garden of his Boroughbridge cottage. It was purchased by Leeds Literary and Philosophical Society and found its way to Leeds Museum.

There has been much discussion about its authenticity based on the quality, workmanship and iconography. The outer border is crude, as is the depiction of the she wolf. Some believe that it is the subject of heavy Victorian restoration. Others believe that its naivety is indicative of provincial art from that period and compare it closely to the Rudston Venus."

Now, if you want some more giggles, google Rudston Venus...
 

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Haha even beats medieval Lion art :D

Came over this reading the other day:

[Funny images]

"One must say that Pliny had fanciful notions about the creatures that populated the islands in the Northern Sea: "on which men are born with the feet of horses, and called Hippopodes. Others called Phanesii, who, being otherwise naked, have immensely great ears that cover their whole bodies."o_O:D

I can't help but notice that the "...being otherwise naked..." dude with the giant ears is, in fact, wearing a snazzy tunic. Seriously, artist: You had ONE JOB! Pliny even gave you a perfect excuse for censorship, since the ears cover "their whole bodies." Now get out there and bring me pictures of Spiderman!
 

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Having characters be represented as mosaic portraits instead of 3d models would make me buy this game on launch :(
 

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Some believe that it is the subject of heavy Victorian restoration.

Well based on the fact that the design it's so strange, i have to say that i do belive it could have been subject to restoration, after all if i remember correctly untill Antonio Canova artists tended to repair ancient art, that it's way you find lot's of statues from ancient roman time mixed togheter or even rebuilt.

google Rudston Venus...
WHY?! i'll have nightmares now! You know what?! I guess i will share them with you all :D
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Well based on the fact that the design it's so strange, i have to say that i do belive it could have been subject to restoration, after all if i remember correctly untill Antonio Canova artists tended to repair ancient art, that it's way you find lot's of statues from ancient roman time mixed togheter or even rebuilt.


WHY?! i'll have nightmares now! You know what?! I guess i will share them with you all :D

I choose to believe that if the local mason did indeed restore or alter the mosaic he was merely perfecting what his ancient ancestor made all those years ago.

Don't worry about the nightmares from the Venus, I found they stopped after a few years.
 

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I choose to believe that if the local mason did indeed restore or alter the mosaic he was merely perfecting what his ancient ancestor made all those years ago.

Don't worry about the nightmares from the Venus, I found they stopped after a few years.


Hollywood horror-film makers really should just google these mosaics - there's a horror movie in there somewhere, much more terrifying than what's usually created!
 

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And for anyone who thinks that the terrifying badness of Romano-British art is limited to mosaics, here we have a female stone head to prove otherwise:
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Perhaps unsurprisingly no-one is actually certain who, or maybe more appropriately what, this is meant to be. Though the British Museum does reckon it depicts some underworld goddess. Presumably if so then it was made to show the inhabitants of Roman Britain that the afterlife was just as freakishly scary as life and they should stop topping themselves to escape the nightmare wolves.