The Great Warrior Migration, or Do We Really Need a NEW General For Each Retinue?

[Faber81]

The place to check would be the Bug Reports forum or the like, if its got a thread there then probably its being dealt with.

Actually it's not a bug, it's WAD, so I don't know if the bug reports forum it's appropriate. Can any moderator give an advice please?

 

[Nostalgium]

Hopefully, this was an oversight in the design phase, and will be fixed in 1.08. Maybe give us an "Invite great general to court" option along with the Noble, Debutante and Holy Man option, or better still, make us groom great leaders for our retinues instead.

 

[Talq]

Paradox hasn't said much about 1.08 (and nothing about this). I doubt creating threads elsewhere will elicit additional information.

I do hope they adjust it, the clutter in the court and on certain other screens does get annoying.

 

[Alerias]

This issue needs attention. I hate getting all these courtiers out of thin air.

Agreed. I dont want them either, at least not this many. One free leader is good, 50 is bad.

 

[hannibal_barca]

Paradox hasn't said much about 1.08 (and nothing about this). I doubt creating threads elsewhere will elicit additional information.

I do hope they adjust it, the clutter in the court and on certain other screens does get annoying.

They think this policy of keeping everything top secret until imminent release is a good idea. Then they pull off the Sunset Invasion gimmick and are "suprised" when everyone goes up in arms. Live by the sword die by the sword.

 

[unddu]

Just want to add my two cent.

This is more than painful: Any decent size empire requires a proper retinue, this means huge courts and huge head aches.

Either remove the retinue leaders completely (best idea) or make it so that you get a x maximum of them (i.e. 3 ).

Thanks.

 

[Zireael]

Agreed with the above.

 

[Francis II]

In CK1, you could open the cheat consule and type "die" to get rid of excess courtiers. That exact code doesn't work in CK2, but is there some equivalent?

 

[Faber81]

In CK1, you could open the cheat consule and type "die" to get rid of excess courtiers. That exact code doesn't work in CK2, but is there some equivalent?

Type: kill "charid" without quotes. Anyway another warrior appears immediately to lead the retinue, so it's not a solution...

 

[whosthebestcop]

Plus did anyone see the maintenance cost on retinues once they actually fight in a large battle. The cost is astronomical. I don't think retinues are working at all.

If I start a game before 1.08 or if 1.08 doesn't fix retinues then I am just turning off LoR. I don't play as byzantine anyway.

Retinue and Levy Problems:
1. auto creation of generals
2. every court in game fulled and it slows down end of gameplay on many systems
3. cant have court procreate because it is always over 30 with retinues
4. there are several disband bugs
5. maintenance cost after battles.
6. no generals assigned for liege levies

Might as well just turn off retinues. Stick with Mercs and Vassal Levies.

 

[minke19104]

I suspect what they did was to link the retinue armies to a character (retinue general). Thus they use him to send auto-reinforce men and reinforcement charges to him. Fixing this "feature" would take some considerable changes to the game mechanics (recoding) using up developers' resources that is unavailable due to the work on the imminent dlc.

 

[Gunnarr]

yeah...

i sort of regret getting the legacy of rome dlc from all this spam

 

[TheStrangerOrg]

Probably been said before... Matrillineal marriage!

Anyway, imo it should become a cash decision. You always get a retinue without a general and you can choose to recruit a general for a certain cost, perhaps in the menu where you can also get a noble, debutante or holy man. allthough for some reason i usually get celibate women, inbred nobles and possessed holy men, in order to avoid a bunch of maimed generals i'd say make it scaled, the more money you put into it, the better general you get

 

[KPJ]

No matrilineal marriages in Islamic states, unfortunately.
I'm really surprised this hasn't been fixed yet. Oh well, back to Vicky PDM

 

[BBBD316]

Apart from cluttering up my court, which doesn't seem to affect my leiges ability to reproduce, I don't get spammed too much by my generals.

I do admit that they are an annoyance. I should be putting a baron or count or duke in charge, they should want the prestige and honour. Or I should lead it myself, my latest game has them smashing NA muslims and it would be fun to have my zealous leige leading the army.

 

[Damorte]

Am i the only one that actually dont mind getting all these generals? So far ive never noticed my game slowing down, and im on a 4 years old computer.

I think its great to be thrown a bunch courtiers with my retinues when im expanding my realm because i will always have a surplus of unlanded men in my court to throw out all the new titles to. And of course the retinues always provide me with the best martial masterminds to use in my council.

 

[Eridan Ampora]

I don't mind it much. As the Byzantines I spend most of my time gaining new duchies one after the other (Imperial reconquest for Europeans and Holy War for the muslims. Lots of new land to give out to all those nice high stat courtiers.

 

[Myrten]

That's certainly broken, my game is not lagging but I was wondering where my 373 courtiers come from. I hope that paradox will fix it in the next patch since they are quite annoying and lower birthrate.

 

[Lord Samuel]

Type: kill "charid" without quotes. Anyway another warrior appears immediately to lead the retinue, so it's not a solution...

Really? Gosh. Didn't know about that. So even killing them en masse is of no use as a quick fix...?
Does anyone know if and how it could be modded?

 

[Mel_E]

That's certainly broken, my game is not lagging but I was wondering where my 373 courtiers come from. I hope that paradox will fix it in the next patch since they are quite annoying and lower birthrate.

Sparta, obviously.