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I posted this earlier, which is a tolerable if very truncated summary:

Some notes on the prior history for new readers too lazy to read the previous sections of the AAR, not that I know why I'm doing such shiftless people any favours. The 'Ynglings' are the ruling caste of Norway, originally my ruling family in Crusader Kings. You start in 1066 with two guys, and I ended in 1419 with about 700. Well, if you extrapolate that growth rate, you end up with a few million Ynglings by 1700. Also, because the strils - that is, people who are not Ynglings - were increasingly pushed out of the democratic institutions of Norway by sheer wealth, the Ynglings ended up as a sort of combination of ruling family, warrior caste, and ethnic group. Like the nobles of Poland, the title passes to all sons; in Poland, you ended up with entire villages of peasants all of whom had the right to call themselves noble, but Norway has a colonial empire and won some wars, so the ruling class was able to find land and wealth for most of its sons. However, there were never enough Ynglings to both fight wars and run industries; so there were a few ways for strils to pass into the class, chiefly by volunteering for the army, surviving a tour of duty, and then marrying an Yngling woman. (The extent to which this privilege has been granted has varied with how much the Ynglings have felt under pressure.) Then, from 1880 to 1900 I fought a really, incredibly nasty war with the Belgians, Poles, and British; it ended with the Belgians giving up a lot of land, the Poles my vassals, and the British, damn their lucky eyes, being bought off with a large part of Canada. However, in that process I took two million casualties (and as for what I did to the poor Poles, who refused to give up, you don't want to know) and the Ynglings were finally forced to let all Norse (that's Danes+Norwegians+Swedes+Finns) into their class - or anyway, all those who had fought in the War, which with conscription and incredible manpower scarcity was everyone down to girls of fourteen. This was the Great Emancipation, and it created a class of 'law-Ynglings', as opposed to those who are actually descended from King Olav and are called blood-Ynglings.

Also, if you look near the end of the Vicky thread, you can find some reflections on the political structure of the empire, which you might find useful. Or not. :) You could also have a look at post 231 on this page.
 
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we could use any extra players to help multitask the dozen or so fronts the fighting is taking place in.
 

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1.2 doomsday and the leader and tech team files on page 2 i believe, if your interested pls tpye your icqémsn.
 

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A request regarding the ai... spain is horrid. trying to use an AI file made for doomsday with an empire that fallows history had the spanish empire never fallen (1600s with all its colonies) and the fact that gives me all there troops to control its annoying to say the least.
If we can't get another player for spain, would it be possible to allow editing of ai files to atleast disallow them to give me (burgandy/Belgium) all there troops?
and at most allow a rewrite of the ai files? :p
haha I know its abit late (ok really late) but still would prefer a useful ally in spain rather than using them as coastal defense. (I would also be able to rewrite the other players ai files too for anyone that would be ai)

oh and one more thing... the spanish ai invaded england held france from my territory when I dowed england giving the territory to me, instead of france (my allie and recently unpuppeted) my intention was to give france back its territory but alas that is not possible to due the games diplomacy mechanics and war. so yea... any chance i can get that edited aswell?

anyways, very nice little history lesson there KoM :p
and North America is being a real pain... haha
And considering messed doctrines, some good effort in holding out, same with poland, did some good work there.

and on a non related note, kom if u got EU3 we should play sometime, ive grown a liking for burgandy :p

china, I soooo know ur gonna try a naval invasion, im telling you its not gonna work... haha

hmm later today if I get around to it (if sid doesnt beat me to it) will post some screenshots of where it ended in our last session.
 

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the words from Belgians is nothing more then misdirection, propoganda and lies, the Belgians will be driven from the lands they occupy, we call on all bystanders to jin the war and prevent Belgian dominance of the world.
 

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Without wishing to unduly criticise a co-belligerent, might we ask which bystanders the Chinese Minister is referring to? Columbia?

I see no difficulty in editing things so that France gets what used to be English territory, although of course I expect it to be retaken very shortly. I don't know anything about editing AI files for HoI, though, so you'd have to do that yourself; if you can do it, I don't see a problem with using that file. Still, I hope we get a player for Spain. OAM, Hannibal? :)
 

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im simply refering to the other people in this thread whohavent joined the game yet.
 

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King of Men said:
Without wishing to unduly criticise a co-belligerent, might we ask which bystanders the Chinese Minister is referring to? Columbia?

I see no difficulty in editing things so that France gets what used to be English territory, although of course I expect it to be retaken very shortly. I don't know anything about editing AI files for HoI, though, so you'd have to do that yourself; if you can do it, I don't see a problem with using that file. Still, I hope we get a player for Spain. OAM, Hannibal? :)


If I'm available, I'll play it but last session I wasn't here and I may not be next session. If I am though, I will contact you.
 

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damnu what do you mean.
 

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Right, its not set in stone, however, I am pretty sure I will be busy this weekend after all =(
I'll see what I can do to get out of it but still not sure yet.

On a side note, I've edited the ai files for Spain, France and England and currently working on poland (don't worry I'm making it fair) mostly optimizations to there building strats, what they will research, and how they will attempt to preform amphibious invasions (and the giving of units which was damn annoying), have yet edit the save to give the provinces to france yet thou.
I'll try and upload em before Saturday, so you can all get em.
(note im making them have different names from the original and will edit the save to use the new named ones so as to not mess up your game)

(oh does anyone have the original tech teams and generals for the various nations that we've replaced?, forgot to back up mine)
 

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do you have icq? and why didnt you make backup folders? Just reinstall dd.
 

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No I don't have ICQ, and I have backup folders, just the sheer volume of stuff I have makes it difficult to do things though, really packrat tendencys on my part, I've lent the DD cd to a friend and I don't know when the next time I see him will be, but I'll see what I can do.
 

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Dano, I didn't quite get which of us was to do the edit with the French provinces. Did you volunteer to do it, or shall I? And glad to have you this week also. :)
 

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I can do it, just what is the name of the save? lol

oh nice lil thing for everyone, Im turning the original conversion from GreatGame3 to 4 (victory to DDay) and making it a proper scenario, writing ai files, balancing relations, proper sliders, tech, leaders and ministers. will be quite an interesting A-historical scenario, once im done Ill post up a link for everyone :p

KoM! send me ur slider settings!