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Quite a exciting session.
The Axis and the Allies ganged me - so I ended up with having a three front war against 6 times the ammount of troops I had.
Not the idealic basic I must say.
The Skarionline held for some months and now 250 Burgundian divisions stand at the gates of Istanbuld. But they will NOT break us down.
Current estimations are that Istanbuld will be able to hold for 1-2 years.
And as the Axis get power in the east I doubt Burgundy will be able to keep almost his whole army at my capital through those years. For the other aspect the Axis are also terrified in the aspect of Istanbuld falling and therefore already given offers of peace.
Both the Axis and the Allies need to get peace so they can focus on the others - the question lay in how much of their victories can they sacrifice to get a clean and quick end to their latest war?
The Axis and the Allies ganged me - so I ended up with having a three front war against 6 times the ammount of troops I had.
Not the idealic basic I must say.
The Skarionline held for some months and now 250 Burgundian divisions stand at the gates of Istanbuld. But they will NOT break us down.
Current estimations are that Istanbuld will be able to hold for 1-2 years.
And as the Axis get power in the east I doubt Burgundy will be able to keep almost his whole army at my capital through those years. For the other aspect the Axis are also terrified in the aspect of Istanbuld falling and therefore already given offers of peace.
Both the Axis and the Allies need to get peace so they can focus on the others - the question lay in how much of their victories can they sacrifice to get a clean and quick end to their latest war?
Sadly, Ukraine caused to much friction between Poland and Byzantium so the end result was war, which Belgium soon joined, blitzing all of Balkan. Meantime, heavy battles are being fought between axis and Comintern troops in the Siberian tundras...
Well first of all, hello to all, I just now "bothered" to join the actual forum and see what is behind all this. I orginally started to substitue Spain as Sid asked me to do so, and I just got stuck to it...
Anyway, In the latest sessions Repuplican Spain had its overhelming social pressure exploding in the terms of revolution and thus the new leaders in Madrid found it inbearable to fight against the fellows-in-ideology, the Comitern. This naturally caused great strain towards Spains long-term allies Belgium and in the very end of the session, Spain left the alliance and is now officially neutral.
So basicly Spain is open for new alliances and is waiting contacts form both Axis and Comitern...The Europa cannto be offered from plate to Belgium!
Anyway, In the latest sessions Repuplican Spain had its overhelming social pressure exploding in the terms of revolution and thus the new leaders in Madrid found it inbearable to fight against the fellows-in-ideology, the Comitern. This naturally caused great strain towards Spains long-term allies Belgium and in the very end of the session, Spain left the alliance and is now officially neutral.
So basicly Spain is open for new alliances and is waiting contacts form both Axis and Comitern...The Europa cannto be offered from plate to Belgium!
Well - I don't know if you can call it 'heavy fighting' when one side keeps running away all the time. "Heavy running", maybe?
Just wait, i have 50 inf divs being built every 3 months, thats the equivilient of 200 divisions a year, King of Men cant match that, and once I outnumber him 5-1 hell be pushed right bakc to where we started.
I'm so pleased to see that the People's Republic is approaching these negotiations in a realistic and constructive spirit. Let us hope that they may be concluded the same way.
Let me first note that Norway does, in fact, have both the industry and the manpower to match China's fifty divisions every three months. However, we've neither the need nor the desire. China has run out of oil to move her motorised and mechanised forces; Norway's war stocks remain ample. That means we can rip apart any particular Chinese army whenever we care to, and you can't even run fast enough to get out of the way.
With that said, the occupation of East Asia would, at this time, present a slight logistical inconvenience; we are therefore prepared to continue to permit the Chinese government to maintain order in these territories until such time as we find it convenient to annex them. In the meanwhile, however, these are our demands for peace:
The Caucasus and Trans-Caucasus to Poland.
Siberia to Norway.
Java to Norway.
India to Britain.
We are also prepared to enter a peace with Greece, and request clarification from the Roman government on whether they wish to negotiate separately from the Chinese, together, or not at all.
For clarity of negotiations, these maps show the new borders:
Norway's gains in Siberia:
The island of Java:
Polish borders in the Trans-Caucasus:
And restoration of the British Raj in India:
We trust these demands will be met swiftly.
Let me first note that Norway does, in fact, have both the industry and the manpower to match China's fifty divisions every three months. However, we've neither the need nor the desire. China has run out of oil to move her motorised and mechanised forces; Norway's war stocks remain ample. That means we can rip apart any particular Chinese army whenever we care to, and you can't even run fast enough to get out of the way.
With that said, the occupation of East Asia would, at this time, present a slight logistical inconvenience; we are therefore prepared to continue to permit the Chinese government to maintain order in these territories until such time as we find it convenient to annex them. In the meanwhile, however, these are our demands for peace:
The Caucasus and Trans-Caucasus to Poland.
Siberia to Norway.
Java to Norway.
India to Britain.
We are also prepared to enter a peace with Greece, and request clarification from the Roman government on whether they wish to negotiate separately from the Chinese, together, or not at all.
For clarity of negotiations, these maps show the new borders:
Norway's gains in Siberia:
The island of Java:
Polish borders in the Trans-Caucasus:
And restoration of the British Raj in India:
We trust these demands will be met swiftly.
The Polish republic is in full support of these demands and are willing to continue the war until they have been met.
Republican Spain, albeit neutral at the moment wishes to see the power balance in central asia kept intact. We would like to share borders with the people's republic of China
We are willing to cede territory that you request to Poland on the 3rd map in regards to Persia and Kazakistan, but we refuse to cede either India, Java, or Siberia. We have aided you at great cost to ourselves to prevent your annexation from Belgium and as such we will do no further to prevent Belgium from annexing you when they will enevitably turn their gaze to you. We refuse to cede a single inch of ground in Siberia, you do not have the ability to make 50 infantry divisions in parrallel or for that matter to make 50 by 50, we can keep trading space for time until the local correlation of forces is in our favor.
As stated before, ALL axis powers are willingly and able to continue this war until our demands have been met.
Facts are that the combined axis output match the Chinese almost 2-1 AND that China haven't got the necessary resources for fueling her war industry.
Thus, the long term result of a prolonged war would be a foreign occupied China.
Facts are that the combined axis output match the Chinese almost 2-1 AND that China haven't got the necessary resources for fueling her war industry.
Thus, the long term result of a prolonged war would be a foreign occupied China.
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And the Communist International is willing to continue until we smash that nuclear proof bunker of yours.
eh hum *clears throat*
Since my bunker is *obviously* nuclear-proof, then how would you be able to smash it using nukes? :rofl:
Since my bunker is *obviously* nuclear-proof, then how would you be able to smash it using nukes? :rofl:
Ok, to begin at the beginning, 50 inf divs cost 225 IC, my total IC is 300, no worries. But in any case I'd much rather build mot and mec. Then you can factor in the additional Polish and English divisions, and China's total lack of oil. I can quite literally attack circles around you. I know, let's have a race: You build fifty divisions every three months, and I destroy fifty divisions every three months, and we'll see who runs out of manpower and space first. 
Touching Spain's concern, we are prepared to be flexible in the precise drawing of the border in southern Persia; a land border of Spain and China is quite possible. We must, however, insist on the Siberian and Trans-Caucasian annexations and upon the return of India to British rule.
Concerning the aid China gave against Belgium, there is no gratitude among nations, only interest. We are pursuing our interests, as China has done in the past.
Touching Spain's concern, we are prepared to be flexible in the precise drawing of the border in southern Persia; a land border of Spain and China is quite possible. We must, however, insist on the Siberian and Trans-Caucasian annexations and upon the return of India to British rule.
Concerning the aid China gave against Belgium, there is no gratitude among nations, only interest. We are pursuing our interests, as China has done in the past.
In no way is it possible to divert 225 ic to military construction, consumer goods and supply consumption should take up a significant portion of your ic.
I have concluded peace with England. Via edit we agree to peace wherein India is to be liberated and become a member state of the Universal People's Republic.
This dispute is not particularly relevant, but for your information, CG costs me 35 daily and I've got 120k supplies stockpiled, plus my allies are sending me vast amounts in exchange for raw materials. In any case, we've got perfectly good strils to serve as cannon fodder; Norway concentrates on churning out high-value motorised and mechanised units. Unlike some people I could mention, we are not of the hammer school of 'generalship' - walk up to your foe and whack him with a hammer; if the hammer breaks, send back to stores for a bigger one. No, the Ynglings fight by breaking men's hearts and making them run away, as about half your Siberian army is currently doing.
For your further information, such infantry as I do have is about one-third finished with being upgraded to inf-45. And you couldn't hold me back even when the tech levels were equal. Oh, and I just finished researching the next level of tanks, whatever they're called.
For your further information, such infantry as I do have is about one-third finished with being upgraded to inf-45. And you couldn't hold me back even when the tech levels were equal. Oh, and I just finished researching the next level of tanks, whatever they're called.