Well...it must've been some bug or even perhaps display bug. But it shall not happen normaly in a game, and thus is hard to avoid in-game if it happens.
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Display bugs dont make manpower vaporise in my own and controlled by me province, even if they report false attrition.
Display bugs also dont make you lose war in which you've smashed a major army in two battles and still have around 30% manpower advantage.
Display bugs also dont make you lose war in which you've smashed a major army in two battles and still have around 30% manpower advantage.
binTravkin said:
Fine, I came with possible bug that could have caused it. But fact remains, you are now King of Rus, and now you power will grow quite well.
As I said, for me it's pretty clear that it was game not display bug, possibly tied to fact I was trying to draft the manpower back and it showed like 30-40% in most vassals provinces, which is reasonable as I had drafted the troops half a year or so ago, yet I was for example only able to draft 165men from a 8d province, whereas I should get 800 or somesuch.
You can of course say it was a display bug, but does not explain how then the troops had practically not recharged over several months. I am also not talking about my own demesne where martial skill was 16, but about my vassals' whose were around 20 in average.
Im so irritated about it because it was critical.
It totally changed odds as Sterk had some troops left while I had almost none as they all had reset to their provs, furthermore, I was actually able to take one of my provs back before peace, but Hungary decided it's the right time to intervene and put in their 6k troops which was too much for my single 3k stack.
It was the first time any game cheated on me this much.
Well, that's the only good in it I guess, however Sterk is only a little credit away from King of Lithuania..
binTravkin said:
If it happened pretty soon after a battle, it could've been that morale thing. A regiment that goes down to 0 or lower morale during battle, while the army actually wins the battle, will sometimes disband at the first turn of the month.
Did we have rehost then?
Also, even if it disbands itself it wont vaporize if it's on own territory, it will simply be added to the pool of provinces which werent the case as I could draft 3 times less troops than I had before disbanding.
Also, even if it disbands itself it wont vaporize if it's on own territory, it will simply be added to the pool of provinces which werent the case as I could draft 3 times less troops than I had before disbanding.
Bin, the fact that you could not draft many men from the province WAS a display bug, I can guarantee it. It has happened to me many times. For example, when I was fighting the pagans, I raised only 300 men from Plock, second richest province in Poland, but I had not raised that regiment since the war with you. Not to mention, the only reason you won a province back was because I had demobilized many of my troops because the war was practically over so I wanted to regenerate them.
While the other thing is probably a bug, I think what Varyar suggested is most probably the case, as regiments destroyed in battle (which it may have counted those regiments as) are essentially reduced to nothing. I believe that would be the problem, because as I remember it, your army was pretty low on morale but managed to turn the battle around with reinforcements.
While the other thing is probably a bug, I think what Varyar suggested is most probably the case, as regiments destroyed in battle (which it may have counted those regiments as) are essentially reduced to nothing. I believe that would be the problem, because as I remember it, your army was pretty low on morale but managed to turn the battle around with reinforcements.
Im not suggesting it wasnt.
Im suggesting, that a ~1000 men regiment (it was ~2000 before battle), when disbanded in my own territory should go back to pool, which it didn't.
It's the first time I encounter such bug, and I encountered it twice over the session.
First when my 10k army went to mere 900+ troops and second when my 2.5 k army sieging the same province back from Hungary went down to 900+ again.
Sorry if i wasn't there guys, but i am having some problems... Depending on how many years you played and how the game is, i might still play as France (if i may). Could someone update the save file please?
I don't have any objections to you playing as France, Ego. If you do, though, then you get to be my liege until the time I kick the Kingdom of Leon's ass and take its 2 kingdom titles, which won't take more than 2 months game-time from the start of the next session.BurningEGO said:
bin, you should also add about if you have a claim to a heathen you may take that claim, but ONLY that claim. As I did with Lübeck, but how I got it is still a mystery.
The AI probably has claimed it in the first session when it was still an christian land.Lurken said:
Is Kujy, by some wicked chance, a vassal of france? man, if this is true i am gonna laugh a bit :rofl:
Yes he is. He just asked the AI to get a vassal to be save of muslims etc.BurningEGO said:
Well, shit happens, especially when one was as stubborn as me. As Leon I DOWed Castile, took it's king title, but then got embroiled in a war against several infidel realms in Iberia trying to save my moron vassals from falling to said infidels. I then got DOWed by Galicia and Braganza (they were allied apparently). Prior to that I was lucky enough to receive the excommunicated trait (5% chance to get it my arse...) because I was broke off my ass and got a lending event. So all my vassals eventually left me since I all of a sudden became Christian enemy #1, which meant I hardly had any regiments to fight Galicia and Braganza since by that time I was at war for what seemed like 2 decades. I managed to peace with Braganza after a while, but Galicia wouldn't let up since they had claims on both my king titles (though I curiously was not able to offer them either one to make peace). And while Galicia was busy sieging my 3 remaining provinces, lo' and behold King of Aragon/Navarra and his bitch the Duke of Navarra DOWed me! What really pissed me off was that neither of the assholes had any claims on me from what I saw. Luckily I peaced the two traitorous realms (ruled by my close relatives no less!!) but Galicia was not about to give up, marching on the last of 3 provinces that wasn't controlled by them. Not even a Leonese army besieging one of Galicia's provinces was able to distract the wretches. So I then decided to take CSK's advice and on the upcoming rehost switched to playing Galicia and immediately started looking for kingdoms to pledge to, and France accepted (a little too willingly...). Fortunately for me, Galicia is still kicking Leon's ass so soon I will again be King of Leon/Castile.BurningEGO said:
And after that I'm going to stick it deep to the Duke of Asturias.So long story short, I screwed up with Leon and switched realms and put myself under the protection of the King of France.