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Originally posted by Slargos
Can't think of anything.

We just need to think of a scheme on how to give out explorers and conquistadors..

The game already covers this based on the your investments/dp sliders which trigger the random events.
 

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Perhaps we can talk Peter into creating this leader generator.

It has come to my attention that the fabled leader generator is gone. The last person to have it had deleted it.

So we're going to need a new one.
 

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Is it really that bad idea that you have to pay for your expeditions? I think this is a good thing. Coupled with good RPG sense this could be wonderful..
 

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Originally posted by Wyvern
The game already covers this based on the your investments/dp sliders which trigger the random events.

Aye, but what about nations that should have explorers before 1550, I was going to say.

But then I struck my head and went, "D'oh!"

We'll just create earlier random events. :D
 

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Originally posted by Slargos
Aye, but what about nations that should have explorers before 1550, I was going to say.

But then I struck my head and went, "D'oh!"

We'll just create earlier random events. :D

Random is random. And players with bad luck could end up with no explorers whatsoever as France, no?:)
 

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Originally posted by TheArchduke
Random is random. And players with bad luck could end up with no explorers whatsoever as France, no?:)

Yep, but we'd have to remove the trigger that only gives explorers past 1550...

Anyway, one problem I just realized was that we would need a higher frequency of random events if this were to work.

We'd have to cover both ordinary random events and the events that take the place of historical ones.

Perhaps Johan could be persuaded to add an option for the frequency of random events?
 

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Originally posted by Freiherr vStein
Random explorers and conquistadors all have the base stats, though. I would like to see a few Cortez and Drakes.

This is presumably where the payments would come in to play.

If one funds an expedition, one would get better leaders than the randomly generated ones..
 

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Originally posted by Wyvern
Perhaps there should be some sort of auction then for a set number of famous expeditions?

though.. we'd have to randomly pre-assign a leaders "loyalty" ie. a bid of 300 from Denmark shouldn't necessarily beat a 250 from France.


btw.. what about MONARCHS?? :)
IIRC i once played some game based on the original boardgame where Monarch-stats were randomly determined via "dice rolls"
though there should then also be some reward/penalty system for loosing/winning wars, building manufacturies etc etc.
same could be done for the leaders perhaps (reward them if they win a lot of fights, penalise if they lose)
 

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Ok.

Historical events out imo. We need a better system for that.

Leader/explorers/conquistadors random with money you can recruit better ones and depending on dp-settings etc.

I think those two should be sufficient.
 

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Originally posted by BiB
Might as well just create ur own fantasia MP scenario.

Beware! The nay-saying pessimist has arrived! :p

Can't you see the merits in this scenario, BiB?

Instead of being straight-jacketed by historical events, the game would evolve through the conditions set up by the players.

What if corsica was never sold to France? Would Napoleon still grow up to be a great leader?

Nevermind that it gives to MP what it sorely needs: Diversity. Having a game where every time come 1800, Napoleon rages across Europe is not necessarily very amusing...

Not knowing how good your next general will be could add a VERY needed twist to EU2MP...
 

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Originally posted by Slargos
Beware! The nay-saying pessimist has arrived! :p

Can't you see the merits in this scenario, BiB?

Instead of being straight-jacketed by historical events, the game would evolve through the conditions set up by the players.

What if corsica was never sold to France? Would Napoleon still grow up to be a great leader?

Nevermind that it gives to MP what it sorely needs: Diversity. Having a game where every time come 1800, Napoleon rages across Europe is not necessarily very amusing...

Not knowing how good your next general will be could add a VERY needed twist to EU2MP...

Yes I can, hence suggesting making a fantasy MP scenario.
 

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Originally posted by BiB
Yes I can, hence suggesting making a fantasy MP scenario.

Not fantasy but flexible from the 1492 point onwards with special awards for exceptional roleplaying-AAR coupled..

Events should be made by the GMs..

This needs extensive discussion. Especially that I would propose to overthink the Cbs..
 

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Originally posted by Slargos
So your suggestion was not loaded with sarcasm? ;)

NO!:D BiB would never be sarcastic. What crazy idea is that?:D