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So, for now, my vote is in collecting information mode and I will put it for the tie.

Vote Beamed

I do have someone else that I am going to vote for, but I want to see how bring this to a TIE and want votes come from this causes. I provide more reasoning with my other vote later, as I don't want to show my cards just yet.
 

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Hm, I thought eveyone and their grandmother already voted Health but in fact only Audren, BlackCrown, Canadian and Beamed have done so when it mattered. (me, wombat and Claude also have but more like throw-aways or later changes).
So, for now, my vote is in collecting information mode and I will put it for the tie.

Vote Beamed

I do have someone else that I am going to vote for, but I want to see how bring this to a TIE and want votes come from this causes. I provide more reasoning with my other vote later, as I don't want to show my cards just yet.
What's the point in voting someone if you say you are going to change the vote later on?
 

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Hm, I thought eveyone and their grandmother already voted Health but in fact only Audren, BlackCrown, Canadian and Beamed have done so when it mattered. (me, wombat and Claude also have but more like throw-aways or later changes).

What's the point in voting someone if you say you are going to change the vote later on?

Making it a tie, and since people know I will be moving my vote, someone else that wants to see the TIE remain when I do, would have to put their vote on Beamed. There is a few other reasons, but I do have a plan in place here.
 

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Oh, what's the count now?
Health: 4
Audren [609]
BlackCrown [612]
Canadian_95_RTS [645]
Beamed [653]

Beamed: 3
Gen. Skobelev [633]
Daleksbane [644]
Eternaly_Lost [661]

Eternaly_Lost: 2
Health [656]
Sleepyhead [642 Beamed -> 665]


not voted: 6
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So, here my real vote and reasoning.

Daleksbane and Black Crown are baddies

Why?

First Daleksbane

Day 0, Voted with BlackCrown on BlackCrown.
Day 1, Voted with BlackCrown on tamius23 (sor)
Day 2, Voted k-59 (Cu wolf)
Day 3, Voted with BlackCrown on johho888
Day 4, Voted with BlackCrown johho888 again
Day 5, Voted Audren pre outing.

Well we don't know who most of those are, his vote on Johhno a second time was following Black Crown.

Lets look at BlackCrown

Day 0, voted himself with Daleksbane for hunter trait, reasonable but something the wolves might want to do.
Day 1, voted with Daleksbane on tamius23 (sor)
Day 2, voted Beefjerky (goodie)
Day 3, voted with Daleksbane on johho888
Day 4, voted with Daleksbane on johho888 again
Day 5, voted on Health pre outting.


4 of the 6 voting cycles we had so far, the two voted together on the same person, with extra attention on johho888. The hunts by one pack hints they are going for better players. (johho888, Jacksonian Missionary, aedan777), and as such, I would suspect newer players.

We are looking for at least 2 Sophomore wolfs, Daleksbane and Black Crown are working together so tightly that they are either packmates or a starting/claimed Apprentice by the seer. Giving the day 0 votes, we can disregard the scanned Apprentice, and I would hope by this point a Seer would have told his Apprentice to stop following his votes so much.


I want to start with Daleksbane of the two for lynching, but would not opposie tying to the two together.

Unvote Beamed, Vote Daleksbane
 

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The thing about Health is that the his voters are on the shifty side for me. Let's try an experiment.

Vote Beamed
 

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I would like to state that I was convinced that Johho is a baddie, and while I believe myself to have a terrible vote record, surely some excuse could be made regarding my lack of experience
 

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If we have a choice of 2, im more drawn to axing health. No point voting away from it so might aswell take my best guess..

Vote HEALTH
 

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I would like to state that I was convinced that Johho is a baddie, and while I believe myself to have a terrible vote record, surely some excuse could be made regarding my lack of experience
Poor vote record, sure. Almost always voting with Daleksbane? That a bit harder to blame on lack of experience unless you go with the route of a wolf following his packmates because he does not know better yet.
 

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OK, if we want an alternative to Health I would also go for Daleksbane over Beamed but not for the reasons presented by E_L but because of their responses to my call for help in getting the_hdk lynched. Yes, Beamed was the other recepient of the convo with Daleksbane. Both were online but only Beamed answered with a reasonable question of what my case was. Maybe not a huge difference and maybe it is their difference in experience but I'd rather go with

vote Daleksbane
 

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So, here my real vote and reasoning.

Daleksbane and Black Crown are baddies

Why?

First Daleksbane

Day 0, Voted with BlackCrown on BlackCrown.
Day 1, Voted with BlackCrown on tamius23 (sor)
Day 2, Voted k-59 (Cu wolf)
Day 3, Voted with BlackCrown on johho888
Day 4, Voted with BlackCrown johho888 again
Day 5, Voted Audren pre outing.

Well we don't know who most of those are, his vote on Johhno a second time was following Black Crown.

Lets look at BlackCrown

Day 0, voted himself with Daleksbane for hunter trait, reasonable but something the wolves might want to do.
Day 1, voted with Daleksbane on tamius23 (sor)
Day 2, voted Beefjerky (goodie)
Day 3, voted with Daleksbane on johho888
Day 4, voted with Daleksbane on johho888 again
Day 5, voted on Health pre outting.


4 of the 6 voting cycles we had so far, the two voted together on the same person, with extra attention on johho888. The hunts by one pack hints they are going for better players. (johho888, Jacksonian Missionary, aedan777), and as such, I would suspect newer players.

We are looking for at least 2 Sophomore wolfs, Daleksbane and Black Crown are working together so tightly that they are either packmates or a starting/claimed Apprentice by the seer. Giving the day 0 votes, we can disregard the scanned Apprentice, and I would hope by this point a Seer would have told his Apprentice to stop following his votes so much.


I want to start with Daleksbane of the two for lynching, but would not opposie tying to the two together.

Unvote Beamed, Vote Daleksbane

Interesting case. Worth a look, at least.

Vote Daleksbane.
 

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Health: 5
Audren [609]
BlackCrown [612]
Canadian_95_RTS [645]
Beamed [653]
Steed [672]

Beamed: 3
Gen. Skobelev [633]
Daleksbane [644]
Cliges [669]

Daleksbane: 3
Eternaly_Lost [661 Beamed -> 668]
johho888 [676]
deathbywombat [677]

Eternaly_Lost: 2
Health [656]
Sleepyhead [642 Beamed -> 665]


not voted: 2
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So I have been a little busy today, but had time right now to read the thread and everything .
I like the case on Beamed, his voting record is not the best and has only voted JM possibly alibi vote.
But not sure.
The case on Health half convinces me, half I feel is Audren getting a bit to much with him.

Either one of the cases will give us good info to continue on.

Could think of tie between Health and Beamed, but could be risky.

Vote Beamed.