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The Glory of Rome:
The Byzantine Empire In The
Second World War


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Hello Paradox forums, Im Destroyer D, and this is my first AAR. As you can see, this AAR will be about
the Byzantine Empire. Now you may be wondering how the byzantine empire could be in HOI, or the
ww2 era. Your probably thinking, "didnt that empire fall in 1453 to the ottomans"? Well, you'd be
wrong. The empire is alive and well, and just wating to participate in world war 2, all thanks to my friend
steamtex's excellent byzantine mod, which can be found here:
So, the byzantine empire, and world war 2, the two most epic things in history, combined into one.
Whats not to love? If you wanna see the byzantine empire fight world war 2, youve come to the right
place. So sit back, relax, get some popcorn, your collection of roman byzantine artifacts (if your
rich/lucky) :D, and enjoy!

A note to the reader: this AAR will be in primarily 2 different narrative forms: history book, and partially first person narrative from various characters in the story. So without further ado, let's get started!
 

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A Brief Introduction to the History of the Roman State:

The Roman Empire is a primarily Greek (but Latin speaking at first) nation whose origins can be traced back to the Italian Peninsula as early as the 8th century BC. Originally located along the Mediterranean Sea and centered on the city of Rome, it expanded to become one of the largest empires in the ancient world with an estimated 50 to 90 million inhabitants (roughly 20% of the world's population) and covering 6.5 million square kilometers (2.5 million sq mi) during its height between the first and second centuries AD.
During the first 12 centuries of existence, Roman civilization shifted from a monarchy to a classical republic to an increasingly autocratic empire. Through conquest and assimilation, it came to dominate Southern Europe, Western Europe, Asia Minor, North Africa, parts of Northern Europe, and parts of Eastern Europe. Rome was preponderant throughout the Mediterranean region and was one of the most powerful entities of the ancient world. It is often grouped into "Classical Antiquity" together with ancient Greece, and their similar cultures and societies are known as the Greco-Roman world.

The Romans are still around today, albeit with a different language and culture from the Romans of classical antiquity. Ancient Roman society contributed greatly to government, law, politics, engineering, art, literature, architecture, technology, warfare, religion, language, society and more in the Western world. A civilization highly developed for its time, Ancient Rome professionalized and greatly expanded its military and created a system of government called res publica, the inspiration for modern republics such as the United States and France. It achieved impressive technological and architectural feats, such as the construction of an extensive system of aqueducts and roads, as well as large monuments, palaces, and public facilities.

By the end of the Republic, Rome had conquered the lands around the Mediterranean and beyond: its domain extended from the Atlantic to Arabia and from the mouth of the Rhine to North Africa. The Roman Empire emerged under the leadership of Augustus Caesar. Under Trajan, the Empire reached its territorial peak. Republican mores and traditions started to decline during the imperial period, with civil wars becoming a common ritual for a new emperor's rise. States, such as Palmyra, temporarily divided the Empire in a third-century crisis. Soldier emperors reunified it, by dividing the empire between Western and Eastern halves.
Plagued by internal instability and attacked by various migrating peoples, the western part of the empire broke up into independent kingdoms in the 5th century. This splintering is a landmark historians use to divide the ancient period of universal history from the pre-mediaeval "Dark Ages" of Europe.

The Eastern Roman Empire survived this crisis and was governed from Constantinople after the division of the Empire. It comprised Greece, the Balkans, Asia Minor, Syria and Egypt. Despite the later loss of Syria and Egypt to the Arab-Islamic Empire, the Eastern Roman Empire has continued to survive, more than 1,000 years after its western counterpart has fallen. The empire faced a particularly dangerous period in the late 11th century, now known as the Seljuk crisis. This was a period when Seljuk Turkic people from Asia invaded the eastern boundaries of the empire. However, the empire weathered the storm, primarily due to the brilliance of its emperor, Romanos IV Diogenes, who defeated the Turks decisively at Manzikert, and forced them back across the Euphrates, this time for good.

The empire faced a long period of prosperity and growth after this, only ending with the devastating mongol invasions of the 14th century. These too however weren't enough to drag the empire down, and it promptly recovered, and halted every invasion, either through military prowess or through excellent diplomacy. However despite the empire surviving the invasions, their preoccupation with fighting the mongols led to their falling behind western Europe. They became a backwards state, looked down upon by the fledgling states of western Europe, as young men would laugh and mock an old crippled man. The empire continued this way for some time, watching by from the east as the nations of western Europe explored the world, and build their colonial empires. As trade passing through overland between Asia and Europe declined, cities like Constantinople and Antioch declined.

It wasn't until the mid 17th century that the empire began to modernize, looking to the west for inspiration. The empire began to experience many reforms, transforming every aspect of society as the empire began to change from the oriental empire of old to a shining European state, modern and fresh with ideas. The empire soon became a great power, and a major force in European politics. Soon afterwards, the empire's orthodox brother Russia, looking at its neighbor to the south, and its great reforms, began to modernize as well, led by its great czar, Peter the Great. In the early 19th century, the empire played a major role in defeating napoleon, and helped redraw the map of Europe afterwards, playing a major part in the negotiations at the congress of Vienna. Due to this, the empire became a major part of the so called "concert of Europe" and one of the 6 main great powers, also known as the "big 6". These included, Britain, France, Prussia, Austria, Russia, and of course, the Roman Empire. The empire continued to play a major role in continental politics, helping negotiate many treaties the averted all out war, and keeping the balance of power.

However Europe grew more unstable, as the fledgling states of Germany and Italy threatened the balance of power set at the congress. Eventually, the spark was set off by a Croatian nationalist, who seeking independence for Croatia from the Austro-Hungarian empire, assassinated the heir to that empire's throne, setting off a chain reaction that started war. Austria accused the roman empire of putting the man up to the assassination. The war went on 4 four bloody years, and eventually ending in the allies victory.

The roman empire was not awarded territory, despite being an ally, and a major contributor to the victory.A large independent Croatia was created, which was friendly with Britain and France. Anger grew in the empire, at this seeming stiff from the allies who they had fought so hard for. The empire canceled all its treaties with the other allies, and entered a period of isolation, suspicious of the other nations of Europe, and being rocked by internal struggles between the right and left wings. Meanwhile, the empire's relations with the soviet union and Croatia shrank. As far as the soviets went, it was due to the communist leadership's abandonment of the orthodox faith, an outrage to the deeply religious Romans. The communist ideology was deeply anti-religious, believing religion to be an obstruction to the socialist state. That the orthodox church was controlled by the roman empire, and abandoning that church would sever the last real tie of subservience Russia had to the roman state was merely a bonus. Meanwhile, the Croatians were eyeing the western portions of the roman controlled Balkans, seeking to create a greater Croatia. Tensions grew continuously, until in 1922, the issue became a war.

The Roman-Croatian War was a complete victory for the Croatians, who quickly seized the initiative, who routed the imperial armies, that were exhausted, and had yet to recover from the great war. It did not help the empire that the western powers were sympathetic to the Croatians, who angry at the Romans for their breaking of the alliance binding them to the allies, provided the Croatians with material assistance, as well as military advisers. The Croatian victory was so complete that even they themselves were stunned. At the treaty of Bucharest, the empire was forced to cede all of roman Montenegro, as well as huge portions of western Serbia. The most stunning loss for the empire, was the loss of the city of Belgrade, known in Greek as Singidouon. This city had been part of the empire since 989, when it was captured by the Emperor Basil II. The city had been an important part of the empire, being the 5th largest city in the empire in 1922. Its forts had been famous, being considered the western end of the empire, and a major point of defense for the army. In 1914, it had been the forts of Belgrade that had stemmed the tide of the Austrian empire's armies. The loss of this city was not only an economic blow, it was a military one, and the loss of Belgrade seriously compromised the national defense. Adding to the insult was that Croatia immediately moved its capitol to Belgrade. The empire's citizens, and its national pride demanded revenge, but all the empire could do so far was sit back and lick its wounds.

The empire retreated into isolation, avoiding engaging in international politics, and failing to join the league of nations.The empire began to recover economically from the twin blows of the two wars, but in 1929, the biggest blow arrived, in the form of the great depression. The depression shattered the fragile economic recovery, hurtling the empire, and the rest of Europe into a long economic down spiral. The roman unemployment rate had reached a shocking 28 percent by 1932, and only in Germany was the situation worse. Reforms were attempted in 1934, but these only barely improved the situation.

Meanwhile, the empire's internal struggle between the left and right intensified. More moderate parties shrank, as people flocked to groups of the either extreme right or extreme left. The right wing parties generally believed that the empire had been betrayed by its fellow nations, especially the western allies. What needed to be done they said, was for the empire to destroy the Croatians, who were the greatest enemies of Romans. The Croatians they said, were a vile people, who were constantly scheming to achieve their ultimate goal, the destruction of the roman state. They were said to be a people without any good virtues, and who fed off of the weakness of the Romans. Therefore, the fascists said, the only thing to be done was to destroy the Croatian nation, and assimilate its people into the roman state, and to teach the Croatians good roman virtues and values. Then they said, a war of revenge must be fought against the western nations, and they must be bowed down to the will of the empire. The opposing side, the communists and socialists, believed communism, followed by an alliance with the soviet union, was the only way to redeem the nation and restore the national pride.

These two sides radically different policies led to escalating violence, and culminated in the riots of December 14-17, 1934. During this time, opposing gangs of fanatics from both sides roamed the streets, fighting each other. The capitol fell into anarchy, as violent mobs ran through the capitol. Violent communists broke into the Hagia Sophia, lynching the patriarch, and starting a fire that the fire department struggled to contain for hours. Meanwhile, fascists were committing violent acts of their own. Ethnic Croatians were assaulted, and some were even killed, as well as many communists, Armenians, and Jews. Order was only restored when the Emperor called in the army, which immediately began to clear the rioters. The emperor had some right leaning tendencies, but he was both anti fascist and anti communist. He immediately had both communists and fascists arrested, and over 11,000 people were shot by the secret police. With this over, the emperor appointed a paternal autocrat government, and order was restored. The unrest was largely over, and peace had returned.

And now we come to the present. The empire faces the task of rebuilding, and preparing for the great war that is sure to envelop the world once again. It has many strengths, but many weaknesses too. The empire stands ready, and all t needs is a strong leader.
 
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As a Byzantist in my professional work I am completely at loss at how someone could create a "Byzantine" Mod for HoI with incomplete knowledge other than speculation, the fact that this AAR (and mod) will be different than the usual "Byzantine" HoI games in which someone takes Greece and tries to rebuild the empire is intriguing nonetheless.

Although I hate to damper your enthusiasm for the Empire, I personally find the Byzantinophiles that dominate America and Britain to have a very misguided idealism of the "epic[ness]" of the Eastern Roman Empire.

Good luck, and cheers! :cool: I'm sure this should be interesting to watch. Our first AAR is always special - I have no doubt this will be the case for you too!
 
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As a Byzantist in my professional work I am completely at loss at how someone could create a "Byzantine" Mod for HoI with incomplete knowledge other than speculation, the fact that this AAR (and mod) will be different than the usual "Byzantine" HoI games in which someone takes Greece and tries to rebuild the empire is intriguing nonetheless.

Although I hate to damper your enthusiasm for the Empire, I personally find the Byzantinophiles that dominate America and Britain to have a very misguided idealism of the "epic[ness]" of the Eastern Roman Empire.

Good luck, and cheers! :cool: I'm sure this should be interesting to watch. Our first AAR is always special - I have no doubt this will be the case for you too!

Hey, I'm the mod's creator. I haven't really got a story for it, personally I find it more likely that the Greeks end up rebuilding the empire than anything else, but as my first modding project I'd say it's come along nicely from just a re-name. But, I'm letting Destroyer run with it for now since there isn't any canon for what happened like with the Deo Vindice mod.
 

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Hey, I'm the mod's creator. I haven't really got a story for it, personally I find it more likely that the Greeks end up rebuilding the empire than anything else, but as my first modding project I'd say it's come along nicely from just a re-name. But, I'm letting Destroyer run with it for now since there isn't any canon for what happened like with the Deo Vindice mod.

More the reason to see what you've done with it when Destroyer runs it! Modding is always great, but I don't have much the time for it anymore (I'm always amazed at the quality that modders put out in their content). Back in HoI2, I would mod/edit for the Greeks to have many of the old Imperial cores in the Balkans and Anatolia and recreate the Empire in that fashion.

So have you actually preserved the Empire for your mod? Depending on how it looks, I might have a reason to play HoI3 again! ;) (Although I'm still at a lost at how you could create a mod with a long defunct empire since almost 500 years of history simply can't be tossed out the window! :p )
 

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Concerning the AAR-proper, may I ask the author to include breaks in the paragraphs - it just makes it easier on the eyes for us readers! :)

And ironically, the first socialists were religious - many of them "fundamentalists", indeed the success of early socialism is credited by historians to "Christian Socialism". Communism however, few went that far!

thanks im going to start tomorrow!:laugh:

Makes sure to include a picture, the mod starting point is something I would like to see and you and steamtex have sparked a possible re-interest in HoI3!
 
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More the reason to see what you've done with it when Destroyer runs it! Modding is always great, but I don't have much the time for it anymore (I'm always amazed at the quality that modders put out in their content). Back in HoI2, I would mod/edit for the Greeks to have many of the old Imperial cores in the Balkans and Anatolia and recreate the Empire in that fashion.

So have you actually preserved the Empire for your mod? Depending on how it looks, I might have a reason to play HoI3 again! ;) (Although I'm still at a lost at how you could create a mod with a long defunct empire since almost 500 years of history simply can't be tossed out the window! :p )

Personally I made this mod since after playing Victoria 2 I wanted to continue my game as the Byzantines in WWII, although that wasn't possible yet.
 

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It's a very interesting concept and after reading your history, I'm interested to see both the mod and how it is handled in the second world war.

I would, however, be very careful when it comes to genocide and atrocities against civilians. I don't know if you need to remove it to be forum-compliant, but to be safe I would avoid referencing anything like it in the future.

Best of luck with this project, I'll be watching!
 

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Oh i didn't even know about that rule. If it becomes a problem I will remove it. However may I mention that it wasn't a systematic genocide, but more random acts of violence. Anyways can I see the forum rules for future reference?
 

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Hey and welcome. I 've only fast read the post and I intend to read it in detail during the weekend.

Looking forward to the story.

It would be great if you could break the text with some screenshots so it is easier to read.

Also I would like to see a link to the mod so it can generate more attention and as a small acknowledgment to the modder :)
 

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Oh i didn't even know about that rule. If it becomes a problem I will remove it. However may I mention that it wasn't a systematic genocide, but more random acts of violence. Anyways can I see the forum rules for future reference?

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There will not be any gulags or deathcamps (including POW camps) to build in Hearts of Iron 3, nor will there be the ability to simulate the Holocaust or systematic ethnic purges, so I ask you not to discuss these topics as they are not related to this game. Thank You.

NOTE: Strategic bombing in HoI will be abstracted and not allow you to terror bomb civilians specifically. Chemical weapons will also not be included in the game. Any threads that complain about this issue will be closed without discussion.

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The map is very beautiful steamtex! Although I had always envisioned any surviving Empire being lost in Anatolia and mostly having survived in the Balkans! :p (but history only gets one run)

@DestroyerD: Thanks for the paragraph breaks, it makes reading much easier and aesthetically manageable! :)
 

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PROLOGUE

December 31st, 1935 11:40 PM

I lean forward in my chair and pick up the glass of wine in front of me. Chardonnay, my personal favorite. After taking a sip, I look forward. The glass window is there, slightly distorting my view of the city I rule - no, the city I own. Constantinople. A beautiful city by any stretch of the imagination. The colorful lights of Christmas are to be found throughout the city, reminders of a bloody time, an ancient time, one which I don't often think of. I set the wine back down on my desk. The room is dark, but the lamp on the desk keeps it bright enough. I can hear the music playing back in the dining hall of the palace. Calming jazz, the latest 'thing' from America. Hundreds of guests, the most wealthy from the city. Partying, feasting. They don't stop to think about the future like I do, at least not enough. It's been a month since the Syrian rebellion was crushed. I sent an entire corps to crush the rebellion, and it came back only 100 men short. The Syrians - a simple but rebellious people - had thought to form their own country separate from the economic and military security of the Roman Empire, in favor of an independant state. It's a calming yet terrifying thought, that you control such a powerful empire which is so close to potential allies and enemies as powerful as can be found in this world. My name is George. George the second. My father fought the central powers during the great war, and even personally led the 4th army during the defense of Belgrade from the advancing Austrians. It was a sad tale that he died from a stray german shell during the battles around Zagreb, but one that I must live with.

I rule this empire.

"Mister Pangalos, report to my study." I speak into the intercom on my desk. It's a makeshift device, only recently having been installed in the palace, but useful nonetheless. "Emperor! You called?" Chief of Staff Pangalos nearly shouts at me when he arrives. "Christ! Yes, I called. Try to be a bit louder next time." I sneer at him for a moment while thinking. "We need a plan." I say to him matter-of-factly. He stares at me for a moment, confused. "Between these Bolsheviks in the Soviet Union, the idiot in charge of Italy, and Adolf Hitler, we're between a sword, a dagger, and an axe." I pause for a moment, returning to my thoughts of these three power-hungry warmongers. "Of course. I'll gather the council, and the Patriarch." "We'll need everyone's input." "Even his holiness's spiritual adivce." And then he was gone, as quickly as he came. I finally finish my wine, and set the glass back on the table. After standing up I walk over to the glass. Taking one last look at the city, I turn around and walk out the door. To my left and right, two of the Imperial Guards. Before me, below the balcony, an almost blinding light and a crowd of hundreds within the palace.

Two minutes to midnight. Just in time.

"May I have your attention please, ladies and gentlemen?"