The Global Wars (Mod)

[Ostheim]

The Global Wars

Latest shields & world map:

 

[Atruejedi]

Those flags are absolutely gorgeous. This looks awesome so far. I wish you luck!

Is it only for Armageddon?

 

[Ostheim]

I think it would be compatible with DD as I just use U00-U17 rather than just editing Armageddon nations, but I'm not sure

 

[Ostheim]

For fun I've changed 'Democratic' on the government slider to 'Libertarian'. I've also changed the names of the forms of government. They are now:

Right-Wing Dictatorship
Fascist
Autocratic
Conservative
Capitalist
Populist
Liberal
Socialist
Communist
Left-Wing Totalitarian

Any critiques on these choices would be appreciated. I have worked long and hard on this mod I'm not even close to being finished. I know it has great potential, is nobody at all interested in helping me create a thorough and professional alternative history mod? I have just started working on events as I finish the historical descriptions.

Also, here is a preview of the country names, you can match them up to the shields and map on your own

African Revolutionary Front
Confederate States of America
Dynastic China
European Workers Union
English Commonwealth
German Democratic Federation
Greater Mexico
Imperial Poland
Islamic Ummah
New Roman Imperium
Pacific Communist League
Scandinavian Socialist Order
Shambhala
Peoples Republic of Amazonia
United Canadia
United Eurasian Republics
Victoria
Vietsiam

 

[Wombat24]

Looks good but what time frame is it set in?

 

[Ostheim]

It starts in January 1937.

 

[Azues]

It starts in January 1937.

Sweden is under communist influence bad mod bad mod!!!



(( Seems interesting.))

 

[Ostheim]

Can someone fluent in French translate these for me correctly?

Revolutionary Home Guard
Bordeaux Coastal Guard
Revolutionary Workers Militia

 

[Nietzsche]

United Canadia

I demand it be spelt "United Kanadia".

 

[Ostheim]

Ha, why?

 

[dusan989]

Can you tell something more about the mod?

 

[Nietzsche]

Ha, why?

Because.<.<..


K makes it cooler!

And it's not really Canada, so //;=P

 

[Ostheim]

Can you tell something more about the mod?

What do you want to know about the most?

 

[General_Grant]

Revolutionary Home Guard
Bordeaux Coastal Guard
Revolutionary Workers Militia

Garde Révolutionaire
Garde cotière de Bordeaux
Milice des travailleurs révolutionaires

Hope it can help.
Good luck.

 

[colonelkadaffy]

Hmm this dose look intresting, are you planning to release for armageddon, if so i'll certainly be giving it a go.

If I might add a few minoir critiques, political philosophy being sorta my thing (so excuse me if i get a bit pretencious.)

The choice of libertarian, might be better replaced with individualist.

Of course because of the game itself, is based on the rather faulty left right dialetic, but none the less, I feel that the vanilla hoi2 isunt actually that bad. Considering this is odviously a alternate history mod, you might want to take into consideration what your point of divergance is before you start assigning ideologies.

Then are you using 'liberal' in the american sense, in which case the two ideologies that allready exist in vannila hearts of iron, social democracy and social liberal suffice, if not theres also allready market liberalism.

As for capitalist, thats an economy theory not a political ideology.

And again for popularist, this could describe a bunch of ideologies.

Hope im helping as oposed to simply being an arse.

Fascism for example is a term that was coined by italian syndacists as they moved away from their origal ideology, the fascisti being an old roman symbol (the bound sticks with the axe in the middle), so if in this history the 'fascists' din't orginate in italty they would therefore call themselves 'fascists'.

Or maybe the groups we would commonly call communists still simply refer to themselves as marxists or socailists.

 

[Ostheim]

Sweden is under communist influence bad mod bad mod!!!

Here is the description for the Scandinavian Socialist Order -- rename suggestions are welcome!

When the powerful Polish Empire invaded Tzarist Russia, a radical left-wing faction had risen to power in neighboring Finland. With ambitious goals of expansionism, Red Finland eagerly offered Poland it's army to help with the conquest of Russia. With the war in an uncertain stage, the Polish Emperor reluctantly agreed and offered a significant portion of Northern Russia to Finland in exchange for military cooperation. The deal doomed Russia and solidified the power of the new communist regime in Finland. Major socialist programs were implemented and war spending has increased exponentially in the tightly controlled state. Now, with their eastern borders secure, the Finns set their sights on the west. Swedish remained in diplomatic and political isolation during Finland's revolutionary period--the Swedish government expected the young German Federation and English Commonwealth to protect them in the event of an attack. Finnish forces, mostly guerrilla units prepared for extensive winter fighting, crossed Swedish borders in a surprise attack long warned about by Norway. Sweden was annexed shortly after it's poorly trained military was overrun, becoming part of a new Scandinavian order. Norway mobilized their forces quickly, even launching a counter-attack into eastern Sweden, but the Finnish troops were supported by well designed aircraft with well-trained pilots. The Norwegians would inevitably collapse under a swift three-pronged campaign. Little more than a year passed before the the Nordic communists shocked the world by uniting all of Scandinavia into a growing super state.

@General_Sherman: Thanks

@colonelkadaffy: Fascism does rise in Italy. Except it's not really Italy. Though the Roman Empire suffers setbacks and losses over time like many empires did in reality, they did not lose control of many important areas including most of the Balkans and even Istanbul aka Constantinople. After several shifts in government and territory from war and revolution, a widely supported Neo-Roman party emerges. They rise up in the mid 19th century to unite nations formerly under Roman control with a new Roman state. Mussolini is even the Foreign Minister, but thats it.

I changed Libertarian to Individualist but what do you think of these for government types:

Right-Wing Dictatorial
Fascist
Autocratic
Parliamentary Democratic
Capitalist Democratic
Progressive Republican
Radical Liberal
Proletariat Socialist
One-Party Communist
Left-Wing Totalitarian

 

[colonelkadaffy]

Right-Wing Dictatorial

Well i assume this is in place of national socialism. Well maybe, this would be better placed with some varient of reactionism. Reactionary Nationalism prehaps (as both reactionism and nationalism had been around since 1800ish). Or maybe your just better of sticking with national socialism, as it did exist before hitler throughtout central europe.

Fascist

Yeah worth sticking with. If you want to prehaps 'localise' it to your mod prehaps its worth chaning to something like flangism Or maybe better yet, why not have a world in which syndacism (the 'left' wing ideology fascism developed out of, simply became more militarist and thus effectively became fascism.

Autocratic

Yeah well i think the vanilla parental autocracy would be worth keeping, but either way it conveys the same meaning. Absolute monarchies and dictatorships. Only problem is where dose a autocracy fit on a individualist-collectivist scale. I mean can you define the ideologies in game by say open/closed society and free market / command economy.

Becuase in essence an autocracy dosent nessiarly have to be individualist or collectivist.

Parliamentary Democratic
Capitalist Democratic
Progressive Republican
Radical Liberal

Yeah theres some problems here though, the words parlimentary and capitalist are just too vague, I mean you'd be describing an ideology by its system of goverment and level of economic intervention (which is delt with in the open-closed society and freemarket-command) sliders.

I honeslty I think your better off sticking with, from left to right.
Democractic Socialism - Social Democracy- Social Liberalism - Classical Liberalism - Social Conservatism.

Becuae all of these ideologies were clearly formed by the mid 19th centuary, and so you don't have to worry much about the point of divergance.

Or maybe you want to chuck some 'what ifs' into that spectrum. Say for example had the paris commune actually been sucessful, there could be a lot of people running around calling themselves Libertarain Socialists. Which would be the extreme of both individualist and left wing. Or had the 1848 liberal revolutions in europe been successful, an extreme right and individualist ideology of individualist anarchism.

Proletariat Socialist

Well proletariat was a word coined by marx, so it depends if you have marxism as a major movement in your timeline or not. If so its fairly interchangable with simply 'socialist' or if you want marxist. Becuase the former was what marx called himself, and the latter being what his followers called themselves. But in a non marx world, socialist alone shoud do for the sort of individualism 6-8 side of the spectrum but around 1-3 on the left wing scale.

One-Party Communist
Left-Wing Totalitarian

These are again tricky ones as again your going to have to reveal a bit more about your scenarios history for it to make sense.


But a goodish provisional scale would be. I'll work on this a bit more if you want me to.

For thouse contained in 1 on the individualist spectrum.
(left to right)
Liberatarian socialist - Social Liberalism - Market Liberalism - Individualist Anarchist.

For thouse in the totalitarian side of things. So 8-10
(left to right)
Marxist - Socialist - Syndacism -Autocracy - Fascism - Nationalist Reactionism

 

[dusan989]

What do you want to know about the most?

History of countries in this very good mod with awesome flags.

 

[Ostheim]

I don't see what place 'National Reactionism' has in a spectrum of governmental systems. A democracy could be reactionary or nationalist in sentiment or policy it does not really explain how the country is run. According to Dictionary.com, the origins of the concept of the Proletariat came from ancient Rome. The purpose of the term is not to obsess over political philosophy or extreme fantasy but to describe a specific system of government by which a nation is run. When I refer to Proletariat socialism I mean a system of socialist democracy where usually one-party rule is in place and decisions are made by a party council rather than say an absolute ruler--like in the early Soviet Union. Like I said I do not see how something like 'National Reactionism' is more descriptive or applicable here. About Autocratic and 'Paternal Autocrat'--I removed Paternal from it to recognize the possibility that the monarch or autocrat could be a woman or queen, that's all. My focus here is on the way a country is ruled not as much their political philosophy or ideology. Parliamentary systems are not as direct a form of democracy as say a progressive republic with a wider separation of powers. Because each of these terms have to represent a place both on left-right scale and an authoritarian-democratic one I had to combine certain ideas to make a broad enough spectrum that I can cover all angles. The Left and Right wing totalitarian/dictatorial are there because there aren't really any terms for specific systems of absolute power like Stalinism or National Socialism both of which I find unsuitable and unlikely terms to be used in my alternate history.

 

[AxxeBlitz]

My another nive looking mod! I can't wait to give it a try. Any idea how far your completed now?