The Genghisid Imperial Family (A WWM Golden Horde AAR)

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Sayid Ahmar II Genghisid, son of Sayid Ahmad, Sultan of the Golden Horde
Born October 30 1477
Reigned August 29 1487
Died July 19 1498
Diplomacy 7
Admin 6
Military 3

Sayid Ahmar II was born to one of the greatest conquerors of the age, and perhaps unsurprisingly born to one of the most demanding legacies. Sayid Ahmar would live to be 32, a little younger than his great father, but with quite a few less achievements. Sayid Ahmar II was the first monarch to never establish a new colony for the Horde, though not for a lack of trying. The only expedition he funded ended in failure, one of only two in the entire history of the Horde.

Sayid Ahmar would attempt to follow in his father's footsteps by setting himself up as leader of the Genghisids, but since the departure of the Jalayirid line from his sphere Sayid found himself the leader of a much lesser line of Genghisids. The Mangalai branch had all but ignored Sayid Ahmar's demands of them, but they had a close relationship with the Chagatai and Timurids. If Sayid wished to challenge the Mangalai he would risk further damaging the family.

For ten years since the beginning of his rein Sayid Ahmar found himself in a much weaker position, never to sure of the loyalty of his own family, opportunity to unite the family against a common enemy would arise when the Duke of the Ukraine was attacked by Hungary. The Horde, Nogai, Chagatai, and Timurids would come to the aid of the beleaguered Duke while France and Bosnia would join the offensive against the Ukraine. The Duke was also a prince of the Holy Roman Empire, an attack by the Hungarians brought Bohemia onto the side of the Mongols. While Sayid found himself offended that the Duke of the Ukraine, Janos Breh, was subservient to two lords. Still, Sayid would do little to act against the Duke who remained fiercely loyal to the Golden Horde and claimed that being a member of the Holy Roman Empire does not supersede his loyalties to the Khanate, further he points to Sayid's father stating that he had no problems with the Duke's status.

Sayid Ahmar would lead the army himself deep into Hungary where he would score numerous victories over the Hungarians, however, Sayid Ahmar would meet his match against a mixed order of Hungarians and French troops, 40,000 troops engaged Sayid Ahmar's small troop of 16,000. Sayid Ahmar would retreat from the battle with half his force intact, which was quite a fete in and of itself, but on his way out of the Ukraine and into his own territories he would be headed off by the Hungarian army and the troops would be completely sent into route. Sayid would escape the battle, but would die from wounds received from the engagement some time later. Sayid would leave the entire hope of the Horde in the hands of his young son, Ahmar Genghisid who was just 2 years old.

 

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A new map, a HoI map. The reason why? Because WWM's map is closer to HoI than EU3. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, it's a really good thing, it just makes maps frustrating. Now I know I have at least one reader somewhere in the board or else I wouldn't have 400+ views, so I'll continue this until the Genghisids die out or 1918 comes around (if that happens I may decide to continue with it anyway). I never expected a large audience but constructive criticism would be nice!

The Map represents all of the Genghisids, plus the Duke of Ukraine.

The Tan is the Golden Horde
The Light Green is the Nogai
The Red is the Timurids
The Dark Blue-Purple Abomination is Mangalai
The Aqua is the Ukraine
The Light Purple is the Jalayirids

I'll be sure to use maps more proactively in the future. This entire AAR (which is slowly becoming more of a fan fiction) is mostly meant for me to try out new ways of writing, so if you want to shout about how horrible the AAR is, do it!

 

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Babur IV Genghisid, Khan of the Timurids
Born May 17 1486
Reigned October 31 1487
Died 1512
Diplomacy 5
Admin 3
Military 4

Babur IV was the son of Babur III and would succeed him only a year after his father's death. Until the beginning of the sixteenth century there would be little for Babur to do except be schooled by the brightest men in the Empire. When Babur finally became old enough to partake in the affairs of the state he found himself against a growing threat from the south, the Sultanate of Delhi and it's inheritance Khorastan. Sultan Ibrahim III Talpura was a fierce man who had recently conquered much of his surrounding neighbors and was ready to go to war with anyone who would challenge his power.

Timurids Red
Delhi Green
Khorasan (In personal union with Delhi) Light Blue

A clash would seem inevitable, when Ibraham spotted an opening to attack he did so. The attack was not brought on by any of Babur's own mismanagement of the Kingdom, but because of the Horde's ongoing crusade against the French and Hungarians. Furthermore in the attack the Chagatai found themselves unable to assist due to the fact that their Khan had just recently died and the tribe was in the middle of a succession crisis. The Nogai being the only ally which could devote any serious aid was by far the weakest of Babur's original allies. Ibraham would soon find himself at war with the Golden Horde, but as he had predicted the Horde would be unable to devote any resources to the war, if Ibraham could score a quick enough victory he could force a peace with the Timurids and negotiate with the Horde at a later date.

Babur's mind was not on how he would be defeated by the Delhi forces, which far outnumbered his own, but rather how he would crush them. The thought was unthinkable and most of Babur's supporters were avid for ending the war quickly while giving up Kharan, the only currently disputed territory between the Timurids and the Delhi Sultanate. Despite the opinions of his court, Babur had his mind set for battle and he would meet the Sultan Ibraham in battle in the fields of Ghor.

The battle would end decisively within the hands of Ibraham. The few supporters who actively stood by Babur were slowly fading into the background. Babur would reorganize his forces in Balkh and attempt another stand against the Delhi Sultan. The battle over the Balkh would be much less decisive despite the Sultan's overwhelming numerical advantage over the Khan. During the engagement the Sultan would get wounded from a stray arrow and would retreat back to Ghor. This was all Babur would need to rally most of the tribes to him. With the timely arrival of the Nogai forces the crazy scheme Babur had to defeat the Sultanate was not completely far fetched.

The Sultanate of Delhi would die under mysterious circumstances following his retreat into Ghor, this would leave no clear successor to the Delhi crown and infighting ensued among the Talpura royalty, it was during this time that Korasan would gain independence for the first time in over twenty years. They would, however, remain closely aligned to the Delhi Sultanate.

When news of Ibrahim's death reached Babur's ear his grin widened and he realized that he would be able to finally defeat the divided forces. He would lead an army of combined Nogai and Timurid troops into Ghor and decisively route the much larger, but disorganized Delhi troops. The Delhi Sultanate was not yet defeated and Nusrat would claim the title over the Delhi crown, being a younger brother of Ibrahim he was widely accepted after the defeat of the main army at Ghor. While Babur began to siege the border towns of the Delhi Sultanate as well as the Khorasani territories Nusrat would arrive with an army about 2/3 the size of Ibrahim's army. This army was much better organized that the previous one and when the armies clashed Babur was soundly defeated after having divided his army in an attempt to siege more land.

Nusrat would pursue Babur's army into another, smaller, Timurid army which would combine to put up a harder fight for Nusrat to face. Then those two armies would retreat into another siege held by the Timurid army. Nusrat knew he couldn't win if he kept on pursuing a force that routinely regained manpower, supplies, and morale. Still Nusrat could not allow Babur to remain attacking his cities and Nusrat would engage Babur for the third and final time. In this battle Babur would be victorious and in pursuit of Nusrat wiped out the second army of the Sultanate. The loss of manpower was far too great for the Sultanate and Nusrat would return to organize a pitiful army meant purely for defensive purposes of the captial. The Khorasani were pretty much left to fend for themselves and were forced to organize a peace deal with Babur ceding most of their nation to Babur and then being forced to recognize Babur's lordship over the Khorasani Khanate. Some months later Delhi would be forced to give up some border regions.

Babur would later die a few years after the conclusion of the war as one of the most successful Khans in the recent history of the Timurid Empire. Ahmar of the Golden Horde would personally congratulate him on his success in Sarai just one year before Babur's death.

 

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sweetness and cool

 

[scholar]

Thanks, despite all the views I think you're my only real reader! :rofl:

With that in mind... do you have any criticism for me?

 

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Isa Beg Genghisid, Khan of the Nogai, brother to Karim Berdi
Born March 5 1440
Reigned February 17 1454
Died December 3 1513
Diplomacy 3
Admin 3
Military 3

Isa Beg was considered the longest living and reigning monarch among all the Genghsids surpassing Ahmad of the Jalayirids by decades. Isa Beg would live to be 83 but would not expand Nogai territory for his entire reign as Khan. There was an old statement saying "Incompetence is forever" Isa Beg fits that description perfectly. Still modern historians are perhaps too hard on Isa Beg for what he didn't do instead of looking for what he did do. Isa Beg was aware of his position in the family and made no rash moves and acted purely at the coercion of his brother's family or his Timurid Brethren.

Isa Beg would join the Timurid skirmishes against the Kazakh's three times and each and every single time Isa Beg conquered territory but returned it to the Kazakhs, despite the anger this gave the Nogai tribes. Isa Beg would attempt to defend this move by stating that the Kazakh's have a different culture to our own and are a very rebellious people. He continued to say that if he were to capture land from them, then it would always be in revolt and there would be no peace leaving the Khanate vulnerable to attack. The argument was less than convincing and a revolt of these tribes occurred, Isa Beg would put down the rebellion after years of minor engagements.

When Sayid Ahmar requested aid from the Nogai in their campaigns Isa Beg would help his nephew and score several victories against the Novogord and Lithuanians. He himself would defeat the Lithuanian King Jurgis II in Polesia, but the war ended with only the most minor of gains, further distancing himself from the Nogai, who looked towards him as a way of enhancing their glory and prestige as other Genghisids had done to their new respective Khanates.

Isa Beg would also come to the aid of the Horde yet again with Sayid Ahmar's defense of the Ukraine against France and Hungary. The only problem was that the Golden Horde was exceedingly outnumbered in terms of infantry and cavalry.

France is BBB
Hungary is Brown
Bosnia is light brown (inside Hungary)

Isa Beg would reinforce Sayid Ahmar's attacks against the combined Hungarian-French armies but would soon be over-run and defeated at Bessarabia. Isa Beg could not field another army with his own tribe now thoroughly against him. Isa Beg would spend the remainder of the war fighting off his own tribe. When the war with France and Hungary ended with a status quo both the horde and French would spend years recovering from the battle.

While the war with France had just came to it's conclusion a war with a strong southern neighbor, far more closer appeared.

The Delhi Sultanate had attacked the Timurids and Isa Beg would assist their Khan, Babur. Because Delhi was far more close than either France of Hungary the threat of invasion was far more real so the bickering tribes united under Isa Beg once more has he lead a troop to the front line of an uneven fight firmly in the favor of the Sultanate. Babur would lose his first engagement at Ghor and Isa Beg would throw his weight behind Babur at Balkh reinforcing his troop after a less than decisive victory for both sides. When news reached Isa Beg that the Delhi sultan had died he and Babur lead an invasion of Ghor. Afterwords Isa Beg would besiege some regions but as Babur was defeated and retreated right into Isa Beg the siege was lost and they met the new Sultan shortly thereafter.

While the Nogai would help Babur decisively beat the new Sultan they would again gain no lands once the war was over. While the Timurids left the war with 5/4ths of their original holdings.

Isa Beg would live long enough to find that Babur IV died leaving the hands of the Timurids in the hands of his son. Isa Beg would also leave the Khanate in the hands of his son, but his position among the Horde is in doubt. Also his son inherited the Khanate at an exceedingly advanced age.

 

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Ahmad II, Khan of the Jalayirids, son of Muhammad II, leader of the traitorous Genghisids
Born March 21 1477
Ruled August 1 1492
Died October 3 1516
Diplomacy 8
Admin 5
Military 7

Ahmad II was born to Muhammad II a successful Khan who had secured the Jalayirid's independence from the Golden Horde, however this left the Jalayirids without many friends. The Shiite rebels which had converted the Jalayirids and his father to Shiite Islam were uprooted in Persia who preferred Sunni Islam, after a long civil war Ahmad found himself without his powerful ally to the East. The Mameluks were recovering from their defeats by the Saudi and Ottoman forces and was slowly pushing back the tribes there.

Without allies Ahmad looked towards the Sultanate of Oman and the Khanate of Qara Koyunlu and together they made a rather powerful showing in the region. With these powerful allies the Jalayirids were secure even with the powerful Iraqi Sultanate to their west.

It's important to note what the Jalayirids are as a people. The two provinces of the Jalayirids were divided heavily. The eastern province was ethnically Persian captured in a war against the Timurids years ago and given to the Jalayirids as a peace deal. The Persians found the Jalayirids much more preferable than their former masters. The western province was ethnically Iraqi and the last of the original Jalayirid territories that were not captured by the Mameluks. Despite their overall happiness under the rule of the Jalayirids they seek reunification with their people who rebelled from the Mameluks but do not wish to revolt against their masters who have become something of a symbol of pride.

The ruling class of the Jalayirids were Mongol and had very few Persians nor Iraqis. This class itself was headed by the Khan who was ethnically tartar and of Genghisid blood. This loose conglomeration of peoples were held together by the will of their Khan, Ahmad II. Furthermore they were Shiites, all of them, which allowed for such close relations to the Qara Koyunlu and the Oman, both being the only two other Shiite nations left after the Duccan Sultanate capitulated into Delhi.

The Jalayirids were full of contradictions and powerful national heritage. This would be cemented by the fact that the Iraqi Sultanate would attack the Jalayirids to "liberate" their people under Jalayirid "oppression". This was laughable because to the Iraqi people under Jalayirid rule thought of the attackers as distraught Sunni's that have lost their way and should be re-united under the rightful rule of the Jalayirids. The attack would rally Qara Koyunlu and the Sultanate of Oman to the aid of the Jalayirids

Qara Koyunlu Green
Jalayirids Light Purple
Oman Gray
Iraqis Black

Despite their early numerical advantage against the Jalayirids the Iraqis were unable to capture the Jalayirid capital before Qara Koyunlu sent reinforcements. After the battle for Iraqi-I-Arab ended in failure for the Iraqis the Jalayirids pursued them along with the Qara Koyunlu reinforcements. The Iraqi forces were decimated in the battle of Wasit and fully routed in Basra. The entire campaign remained about conquering old Jalayirid territory. The war lasted about three years resulting in total victory for the Jalayirids and Ahmad II.

All three factions walked away with something valuable, but Ahmad would have been the most successful. The Iraqi Sultanate was reduced to a single province in the far west of their territories. All the territories taken were, in fact, former Jalayirid holdings. Ahmad would be the most successful Khan in over five generations of Jalayirid Khans. With success firmly in his legacy Ahmad would soon pass away leaving a much brighter future in the hands of his son Muhammad III, named after his grandfather who broke away from the Horde to allow the Jalayirids to pave a way to their own destiny.

 

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'Abd ar-Rashid Khan I Genghisid, Sultan of the Mangalai, Khan over the lands of the Mongols.
Born May 7 1456
Reigned November 3 1481
Died June 17 1517
Diplomacy 3
Admin 8
Military 7

'Abd ar-Rashid Khan was born 'Abd ar-Rashid II brother to Sayid Ahmar I, arguably one of the greatest conquerors of the the era. When 'Abd was in his late twenties the Mangalai sultanate would be without an heir and Sayid Ahmar would use his power and influence over the region to put 'Abd ar-Rashid on the Mangalai throne. Upon arriving in the Sultanate he altered his name slightly and put "Khan" at the very end to signify that he was both the Sultan and the Khan of the Mangalai, who were subservient to the Chagatai and Yuan Dynasty just a few hundred years prior.

When Sayid Ahmar died 'Abd would show no loyalty to the Horde. He had recognized his brother as a great man, but refused to admit that his young nephew to be his superior. While not officially breaking with the Horde, he did remain effectively independent for the rest of his rein and supported numerous revolts in the Horde's territory, though none would amount to much. When Sayid Ahmar turned away from the West to focus on rebuilding the Yuan Dynasty he needed to examine his largest neighbors to his immediate east.

The Yuan Dynasty still breathed despite the Mangalai claims that they were the only ones left and it's true successor. While the Yuan Dynasty had lost most of it's lands to the civil war raging in China they had united with their former enemies, the Oriats in a marriage proposal that would forever bind the two together. That was over fifty years ago and since then the Yuans had remained relatively in charge of a humble amount of land surrounding the inner most heartland of the former Mongolian Empire. The Mangalai wanted the territories and soon 'Abd would begin a campaign against them, however the Empire of Zhao, the self proclaimed successor to the Ming had close ties with the Yuan who had supported the Zhao's claims. The Zhao were lead by Emperor Zhang De and their forces would clash on the border regions.

The Mangalai had more land than the Zhao, but they were far less populated and less productive than the Chinese lands held by the Zhao. The armies were lopsided in favor of the Zhao even without taking into consideration the Yuans, who were lead by Qayshan II Giray. Despite this, the battle at Sayin Noyan ended in favor of 'Abd who would pursue the Zhao forces to Ningxia scoring another victory, the Zhao soon faced revolts from their recently conquered territories and bowed out of the war ceding Ningxia.

Qayshan was left without allies but refused to surrender. Against all odds he pulled off several spectacular victories against the Mangalai (6-4-3-1 General), but eventually he was worn down. He simply did not have the manpower to continue with the defense and soon he was overwhelmed by the Mangalai onslaught. The Khanate was stripped down to it's capital and vassalized by the Mangalai.

After having secured his new Kingdom's success his eldest son, Iskandar Genghisid, was set to succeed him as Sultan and as Khan. In June 'Abd would suffer a sudden seizure and without warning bit his own tongue and died in distress leaving the fate of the Mangalai firmly in Iskandar's grasp.

 

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I'm still here

I can't think of any criticism for you at this time, I guess maybe a summary at some point.

If it's any consolation People may not be reacting because its a pretty different style form usual. Though it leaves some pause for comments, its what makes it stand out.
Keep at it

 

[scholar]

I was planning on it once Ahmar died, but he's living too long. Well... not really, he's only in his twenties. Once he's gone I'll do a recap. o

Until then I'll due an describe the world.

 

[Alfred Packer]

For some reason, I chuckle everytime I see that little Duchy of the Ukraine on your maps.

I like this AAR, but since you keep asking for criticism, I will oblige you

The only thing I would change, were I you, is that rather than producing these HOI maps, I would just hit F11/F12 alot and use those world maps. You can zoom them in and crop them decently enough for the resolutions you've used thus far (even with MS Paint) and they look nice and clean (not to mention the map will be accurate)

 

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I won't just be using F12 because it's not all that original and gives you guys no idea just how much provinces are actually there. HoI has about half the provinces WWM has, but... it's better than nothing. The year is currently 1518 and these are the powers that be.

These are all the major powers of the world minus Korea and some Chinese states. They don't get included. Neither does Songhai or any Native American empires. Mainly because I don't have enough colors to represent them all :rofl:

There have been a few colonies, but they are Norwegian, English, and Portuguese. Castille collapsed into at least 6 smaller factions. Some of them were absorbed by Aragon and Portugal. Aragon so far lacks a seafaring empire, but did take quite a bit of land from Algiers, Morocco has become quite the Empire, but again, no colors.

The coast of Brazil was colonized

So was parts of North America

Anyone else find it odd that the first places that were colonized were frozen lands to the north with little to no value? Brazil I could understand... but North America?

This is Western Europe, or at least it's major powers. Scotland is included purely for it's odd colony I would guess it was captured in a war despite it's ethnically Scottish population.

England looks deceptively like Great Britain, however it's mostly because I don't want to change colors when they do become Great Britain.

France lost it's Brenton provinces, but got bigger in Iberia.

The Papal States are quite large.

Naples is a significant power, looking at it's size you can either think that the

German powers not shown are less than 4 provinces, which they are, or that

Southern Italy has a lot of provinces, which they do.

The Black Blob is Switzerland, which is an Administrative Republic, which is anything but Switzerland.

The Gray is Holland, it's not the Netherlands, but it's close.

The Orange is Bohemia, which despite being the HRE, has done nothing.

Norway is this tiny little thing included mostly for it's colonies (still not sure how it got them) and for the fact it's Protestant.

Sweden... is a monster.

Eastern Europe

Sweden is indeed a monster.

Novogord is pleasantly plump occupying space where Ahmar wishes to conquer.

Moscow is a similar color to the Golden Horde, but I was running low at the time and Pink doesn't look very good for them. That's a Mameluke color :rofl:

Hungary, however, is the largest power in all of Europe, despite, perhaps, France and Sweden.

The Islamic Powers

The Mamelukes are Pink if you didn't catch on on that already. By the way... they are the greatest Islamic Power next to... Delhi. The Golden Horde beats them, but they are supposed to. The Horde is the greatest.

The Jalayirids... well you already know them.

Persia is very powerful. It's a Sunni Khanate, but very powerful. Too bad they are lead by an Ottoman Prince of an overthrown dynasty in the Ottomans, who were too unimportant to include. Colors may have been a factor.

Delhi rebounded by squashing rebellion after rebellion. They have more manpower than God, who despite abandoning Khorasan to the Persians, decided to go and look towards India after their defeat at the hands of the Timurids. While there are significant Indian powers that have over a dozen provinces, they would look like two province minors because of HoI's India (It's India is actually butchered in HoI to balance out the British Empire. But it makes up for it with just about every other continent (except south Americca).

The Genghisids

The Horde is... well if you can't figure it out then...

The Timurids are Red.

The Nogai haven't changed since the start of the game, light green.

The Mangalai is a Dark Blue-Purple mixture.

The Jalayirids are light purple.

Some notes:
Castille is still around, it's just a landlocked OPM.

Prussia is also around, but was dealt a defeat by Sweden and is hovering around 3 provinces that aren't even connected.

Most of the HRE remains unchanged.

Venice is still a medium power.

Byzantium (Nicea) is still around.

Trebizond moved from Anatolia to the province next to Kerch.

Qara Koyunlu is worthy of being a power, so too is Oman. But both were mentioned only recently and don't need to be shown.

The HRE is stuck at one single resolution.

Iceland is around.

Chinese states occupy 3 of the 10 largest armies. The Golden Horde is 4th place.

 

[scholar]

For some reason, I chuckle everytime I see that little Duchy of the Ukraine on your maps.

I like this AAR, but since you keep asking for criticism, I will oblige you

The only thing I would change, were I you, is that rather than producing these HOI maps, I would just hit F11/F12 alot and use those world maps. You can zoom them in and crop them decently enough for the resolutions you've used thus far (even with MS Paint) and they look nice and clean (not to mention the map will be accurate)

Thanks for the comments! I can now be sure 2 people are reading this AAR. I like the little Duchy of the Ukraine. I almost considered adding their rulers to the list of people to update but decided against it figuring that just about everything they do is incorporated into the Golden Horde.

The only reason why I will not just use F12 is because it does no justice to the actual size of the provinces. If you look at, say, the Kazakh Horde and overlap the image over Europe you'd find that the Kazakh Horde with about 7-8 provinces is actually about 1/3 the power of a much smaller looking empire. Now you might say that's fine because we know how much larger the Kazakh provinces are, but it's not so much how large the Kazakh provinces are, but how small most European provinces have gotten. Europe alone if completely united would be almost three times as powerful as the entire world united under a single flag situated in Asia, that's counting India, Japan, and China. It's a little crazy. HoI does a good job at representing Europe as WWM does, so it's my preference. Furthermore it seems like it's the only thing that makes my maps unique from the others floating around. I'm sorry if I can't oblige you

However I am convincing the WWM team to create a blank map just like the ones I'm using, but they will be accurate to the T. In about a month or so it will be released and I'll hop over to that map, which will show you why I chose HoI

But if you have any questions about any powers anywhere in the world just ask me and I'll tell you about them. Besides, it would be a shame to waste all the work I just put in for my overview

 

[scholar]

Oh boy... Ahmar should be dying soon... I wonder how this will influence things.

 

[scholar]

Ahmar Genghisid, son of Sayid Ahmar II, Sultan of the Golden Horde, Patriarch of the Genghisids
Born March 11 1596
Reigned July 19 1498
Died August 23 1522
Diplomacy 7
Admin 3
Military 8

Ahmar inherited a conflict with the great powers of Europe and found himself outmatched, but as he was put in the care of his advisers, a general by the name of Temur Seyyet Muhammed took control the empire's armies and fought along the border of Hungary and in the Duchy of the Ukraine battling with immense armies. It's mostly due to him that the Sultanate did not get forced to cede land, or worse loose the Duchy which had so faithfully served the Sultanate.

After five years of fighting war exhaustion was high on both sides and France had opted out of the war. Bohemia had left the war after an embarrassing treaty with the Hungarians. Bosnia was Hungary's pet nation who despite it's own Duke's desperate pleas to end the war to ease his people's suffering, Uaszlo (the Hungarian King) would later annex the Bosnian government when it became too rebellious and too threatening to it's own power who was facing it's own revolts, particularly among the Orthodox to it's south. Temur would engage the Hungarians one last time at Cherson where Temur dealt a devastating defeat against the Hungarians. After the engagement there was a peace treaty arranged in which Hungary and the Golden Horde would reach an agreement where both nations would recognize each other's authority and vow not to breach the other's authority within their own regions. Five days after the treaty was signed and peace emerged a Hungarian spy was found attempting to cause a rebellion in Bessarabia.

The Horde was still technically at war when the Hungarian front was finally closed, but the Horde could devote little resources to the Timurids in their engagement with the Delhi sultanate. In the year 1507 a union between Moscow and the Empire of Sweden formed in which the Queen of Sweden Eleonora would rule over the Muscovite and their Russian holdings. While the Horde found this as a gross breach in their national sovereignty, having them border so close to the Horde, they could do little but put down their own revolts spreading across the empire.

By 1512 Ahmar would be able to act of his own free will, but remained heavily restricted under his regents. It was during this time that Ahmar would personally congratulate Babur IV over his victory over the Sultanate. Babur would die a year later. Ahmar attempted to influence the Mangalai, being of his cadet branch, but he found that the Mangalai were completely independent of him and would not join him in anything other than nominal submission and lip service.

One thing Ahmar could have to his name is that he was the first Sultan to take colonization as a serious issue and would make an entire sector of his government devoted entirely towards colonial ventures to the far East. Ahmar would found 8 colonies in the distant regions and would find himself to have outdone every Sultan to ever come before him, but having so many colonies going on at once would increase strain on his economy still recovering from the death throws and a bloody war among giants.

Ahmar would also fund Babur V's expedition into the Kazakh territory. There the Kazakh's would be reduced to OPM status by Babur and would in turn be annexed by the Nogai (who started their own war with the Kazakh's). Ahmar had sent troops into the region, but because of the great distance the troops found themselves merely assisting the Timurids instead of leading. The Kazakh's would finally disappear after over 100 years of annoying the Genghisids. It seemed as if the status as Patriarch over the Family of Genghisids was now in question.

The Jalayirids had broken away from the Horde and are now thriving in Mesopotamia with powerful allies at either side. Before the two province nation was destined to be destroyed by Persia or the Mameluks. Now? They are the leaders of one of the most powerful group of allied Muslims as well as leader among the Shiite religion itself. The Mangalai had all but ignored the Horde after the death of Ahmar's grandfather. For two generations the Mangalai have been pursuing their own goals in China without Genghisid supervision. Even the Timurids, who had long been faithful to the Horde and it's Sultan was beginning to surpass the Horde in terms of international prestige after having scored massive victories over the Sultan of Delhi and nearly destroying the Kazakh Khanate! What was left to the Golden Horde? Ah yes. The Nogai who pretty much followed whatever the Horde asked of them, but they gave the exact same treatment to the Timurids! Even when the Timurids declared war on the Kazakh's without the Nogai, the Nogai would aid them anyways. It seemed as if the only one truly loyal to the Genghisids was the Duchy of the Ukraine.

Yes, the Duchy of the Ukraine and it's Duke Andriy Mitropolsky. Their fanatical loyal nature was something Ahmar could be proud of even if it bewildered him. The Duchy had come to the Horde's aid against the Kazakh's, Lithuanians, Novogord, and the Hungarians, all of which would easily eat the small nation if the Horde did not support it. The Genghisid family needed reform, there was no way the Genghisids would decay into a group of equals. They must all bow down to the Golden Horde and it's Sultan!

The way to do this was to go to war with someone. Who better than Merchant Republic of Novogord? What place better to use the new siege invention of "Artillery" which was used no where else in the world, but no one could tell if it was because the notion of using Artillery was too brilliant for the idiots in Europe to capitalize on, or that they were far too unreliable and slowed down the unit far too much for it to be of any use. Regardless every new unit that the Horde would use, except for it's main unit, would be of 4-8-4 structure. Meaning half of each army would be composed of Cavalry while the other half would be Infantry and artillery. The main army would be composed mostly of Cavalry 16 units as well as 4 infantry units, it was always headed by the Sultan.

War was an excuse over the province of Viatka, which had long since been considered part of the Golden Horde ever since the days of the previous Sultan. While everyone in the Horde knew that the war was not over that province, the Novogord Merchant Republic had no idea that it wasn't. Arkadiy would attempt to barter the province for peace when it was under siege by the Horde while several other regions were captured, the refusal shocked the republic and set about a panic in the city of Novogord. The war went on for several years and it went rather well for the Horde has every army the republic had, had been brutally crushed as well as half the nation under the control of Ahmar, but sadly Ahmar would die bit campaign by an assassin's blade.

Novogord would deny any and all involvement with the terrible deed and would opt for peace. This time the Genghisids would accept but for considerably more territory. The act would shock most of the European world who had just begun to warm up to the Horde. Still, the Duchy would remain fiercely loyal and would himself silence opposition to the Horde in his own courts. Of course this could be an act of self preservation for if the Horde's protective veil would be removed, then he would find himself alone in a far more precarious position than he would ever be able to work his way out of. Ahmar was left the world without a son and all the Genghisids would fight over who would succeed Ahmar.

 

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That is one mighty horde... and you are quite a fast poster

 

[Alfred Packer]

Are we about to see a succession war?

Those damn Novogorodians!

 

[scholar]

Are we about to see a succession war?

Those damn Novogorodians!

It's: "A Timurid Noble will succeed the throe" but I'm going to write it to involve a war because a war began shortly thereafter.

That is one mighty horde... and you are quite a fast poster

Well I think that has to do with me having nothing to do. In a week or so I think I'll end up with maybe 1 or 2 updates a day.

 

[scholar]

Babur V Genghisid, Khan of the Timurids, Conqueror of North
Born March 16 1501
Reigned October 5 1512
Died November 27 1522
Diplomacy 4
Admin 3
Military 6

Babur V was the third Babur in three generations to succeed the Throne. His younger brother was named Bay Sunqur III, it seemed as if original names are in short supply at the dawn of the sixteenth century. When his father, Babur IV, conquered Delhi Babur's life would be set to the same standards. Babur would succeed the throne while he was eleven. Babur would support an attack against the Kazakh's. Upon turning fifteen Babur would begin a campaign against the Kazakh's

The Kazakh Khan Yahanger found himself Khan of a quickly vanishing Khanate. He begged and pleaded for aid with the Mangalai when the Timurids came in and invaded his homeland. He appealed to their longstanding friendship and their lack of hostilities with each other. He was refused and left alone to witness the end of his empire. Babur would decisively beat the small army Yahanger could muster in Kyzylorda. Babur pursued him and destroyed the troop. Soon Babur had begun to besiege every territory they had. When Ahmar's troops arrived they only helped the sieges already going on. In one years time all of the Kazakh lands were completely in the hands of Babur. He would rob them of everything but their capital. The Nogai would launch a campaign shortly thereafter completely destroying the Kazakh Horde and it's 100 year history of bothering the horde.

Still, the it's Khan Yahanger would live on in the courts of the Nogai as "governor" of their newly acquired Kazakh lands, only time would tell if this was a wise decision or a horrible blunder on behalf of the Nogai. Babur made it clear that he would not assist the Nogai if he revolted against them, in fact Babur stated that he would take the lands that the Khan will revolt in even if they are core Nogai lands.

When Ahmar began his invasion of Novogord Babur would follow him, Babur himself would lead an army of 10,000 troops deep into Novogord lands, he would score several victories against the Merchant Republic, but ultimately would make no captures of his own. Upon learning of Ahmar's death Babur became quite jubilant and moved to Sarai as the Horde forced a peace and moved on. Ahmar had been without a son and Babur was next in line to succeed the throne. But some problems would occur.

First of these problems was the Kuchuk's line which never left Sarai. They claimed that they were decedents of a Khan who willingly gave up his right to rule for his nephew. Muhammed, the current head of the branch, was already staking his claim to the throne. Babur immediately painted Kuchuk as a pretender to the throne a man who committed a shameful act that consumed him and forced him to step aside. However that had unintended benefits for the line and Muhammed who stated that the Horde would rather have a Khan that had honor enough to stand aside and step down from power if a more legitimate ruler came along. Babur would secretly assassinate Muhammed via poison and his family would have infighting over who would succeed Muhammed as head of the family and lost focus on the grand prize.

Second of these problems would be the Mangalai Genghisids who were far closer to Ahmar in relation to blood, Babur was unaware of the tense relations that Ahmar had with his cousin in the Mangalai and began fabricating a reason to go to war with the Mangalai to force them to recognize his rightful claim over the Horde. The Timurids would declare war on the Mangalai, or rather it's vassal the Chagatai. The Horde was drawn into the conflict lacking a strong leader to say no to Babur. Babur would send for his son Mahmud II to the capital. As Babur was ready to lead the Golden Horde's invading force he, himself, was assassinated. His food was poisoned with a heavy dose of Arsenic. This left the succession of the Horde in even greater doubt. His son would succeed him in the Horde while his brother, Bay Sunqur III would take control of the Timurids. Uncle and Nephew would face off against the Mangalai who are using the pretext to state that they are in fact the true successors to Ahmar claiming proximity in blood.

What will happen to the Horde? To the Bloodline?

 

[scholar]

I think this is a much better way to say "A Timurid Noble will succeed the Throne", Babur V died just a few months later so it made slightly more sense to have him as the tyranical regent who tried to succeed Ahmar only to die shortly thereafter splitting his own family between his brother "heir" in the Timurids and his son "the noble". Not sure why he would declare war on the Chagatai... but oh well.