The Game says my just born Son is inbred...

[FreeSoc]

No it simply happens inbred , same as hunchback and other negative threat , go check the defines LUA .
there is always a chance of inbred , it is never 0% .

Trait chances aren't in defines.lua, they're in common/traits/traits.txt.

The chance of any character getting any trait randomly at birth is set by the line "birth = n", with n being a number between 1 and 10,000 and determining how many characters, on average, out of every 10,000 will be born with the trait randomly regardless of their parents' traits.

The "inbred" trait lacks the line "birth = n", meaning that it cannot be assigned randomly at birth; it will only come about as the result of, you guessed it, inbreeding.

OP: My guess would be that one of your wife's relatively close male relatives is not being honest about their tumbling, or that she has inbred ancestors, or that you have inbred ancestors.

 

[Planescaped]

Just type charinfo 1 and see if there is a 'real father' line under you or your wife.

 

[LordPils]

I've always been very careful about making sure there's no inbreeding in my family, so I was more than a little shocked when the kid turned up Inbred. So I back checked his mother, and there really isn't any inbreeding going on there. Mom and Dad are totally unrelated. So how did my son get Inbred?

Fortunately he's way down in the list of succession, but this is more than a little worrying...

Is your wife's name Cersei Lannister?

 

[Drake_Hound]

Trait chances aren't in defines.lua, they're in common/traits/traits.txt.

The chance of any character getting any trait randomly at birth is set by the line "birth = n", with n being a number between 1 and 10,000 and determining how many characters, on average, out of every 10,000 will be born with the trait randomly regardless of their parents' traits.

The "inbred" trait lacks the line "birth = n", meaning that it cannot be assigned randomly at birth; it will only come about as the result of, you guessed it, inbreeding.

OP: My guess would be that one of your wife's relatively close male relatives is not being honest about their tumbling, or that she has inbred ancestors, or that you have inbred ancestors.

Well random courtier can get them there goes your theorie with N birth .
It is just a trait that can be assigned like when you make immortal traits .

 

[Icebeast]

Well random courtier can get them there goes your theorie with N birth .
It is just a trait that can be assigned like when you make immortal traits .

These things are separate. When you invite a Noble, Holy man or Debutant to court, they get random traits from the entire trait pool. When a child is born, they can only get traits either through inheritance or through the birth chance mechanism. (Although, as I stated above, DNA is poorly understood and "could" possibly have some effect or it could be entirely cosmetic).

 

[Verodimus]

I find it funny how many people are refusing to beleive that when they're getting inbred kids, it's because they're actually inbred. It's just agame, don't take it personally if you get cuckolded.

In my recent game my current ruler is an ethnically white Panjabi Samrat. My eldest son was ethnically Indian, and married an Indian woman, who fancied me. Perhaps it was wrong, but how can I say 'no' to a good tumble? When she had a child, I got the message that my lover's husband thought it was his... The kid was white... I literally facepalmed. Wherever illicit sex can explain an unusual occurrence, that's almost certainly the reason why.

 

[Drake_Hound]

These things are separate. When you invite a Noble, Holy man or Debutant to court, they get random traits from the entire trait pool. When a child is born, they can only get traits either through inheritance or through the birth chance mechanism. (Although, as I stated above, DNA is poorly understood and "could" possibly have some effect or it could be entirely cosmetic).

I know for sure , in later generations inbred numbers simply go up .
nothing to do with sleeping around , even if you isolate the court , with only random courtiers in a far away country .
Having 100 females lovers with 1 guy , there is bound to be a inbred . lets discount homosexuality trait
You made me look up the defines .

Inbred_trait_chance_factor is 1.0 that is with inbreeding , so what is the basic value ? 0 ?
Inred_divine_blood_trait_chance_factor is 0.2 , so basic value of inbred is already factor 0.1 !

There

 

[FreeSoc]

I know for sure , in later generations inbred numbers simply go up .
nothing to do with sleeping around , even if you isolate the court , with only random courtiers in a far away country .
Having 100 females lovers with 1 guy , there is bound to be a inbred .

Only if they're related. Without the "birth = n" line in traits, a child cannot be assigned that trait at birth unless their parents have it (i.e are in some way inbred).

You made me look up the defines .

Inbred_trait_chance_factor is 1.0 that is with inbreeding , so what is the basic value ? 0 ?
Inred_divine_blood_trait_chance_factor is 0.2 , so basic value of inbred is already factor 0.1 !

There

The "Divine blood" modifier for a religion only makes it 5 times less likely to gain the Inbred trait from incestuous unions. It doesn't mean that without it the "inbred" trait crops up in non-inbred people naturally.

Nothing you've said disproves anything I've said, as far as I can tell.

 

[Drake_Hound]

Go create on island with a editor 100 women , 1 male make them all lovers with events to increase fertility .
see the inbred popup , how can that be no other males around to cheat on , and no related courtiers

 

[Icebeast]

Inbred_trait_chance_factor is 1.0 that is with inbreeding , so what is the basic value ? 0 ?
Inred_divine_blood_trait_chance_factor is 0.2 , so basic value of inbred is already factor 0.1 !

These are multipliers against the original chance to get the inbred trait when breeding from two closely related partners. The divine blood says it is 1/5th as likely if you marry a brother and sister and they're divine. The first line says it is the default likeliness. Some mods multiply this way up (3 or 4) so that when any two closely related partners mate, they're very likely to have an inbred child. This does not effect if a child is born with inbred if the parents are not closely related.

Freesoc above got here a bit earlier.

 

[Drake_Hound]

That last part if a child is born with inbred !
Exactly there is always a chance for that same as weak , dwarf , hunchback , genius , quick , lips , strong , fat potraits (who has been gloriously bugged since 2.1.0 ) , the dna makes combination . There is always a random chance for inbred even if two people are not even closely related and just new born .

that chances for inbred increases with the likelyhood of dynasty checking ! Doesn't mean there is 0 chance for inbred .
Simple way to test it out , just save and reload before a couple birth !
Will take a while , but inbred do pop up !

 

[Icebeast]

That last part if a child is born with inbred !
Exactly there is always a chance for that same as weak , dwarf , hunchback , genius , quick , lips , strong , fat potraits (who has been gloriously bugged since 2.1.0 )

All of these traits (besides inbred) have a random birth chance defined in the traits file. The birth chance defines the possibility of gaining this trait at random (not through inheritance). Inbred does not have a random birth chance because it uses a different mechanic.

 

[Drake_Hound]

All of these traits (besides inbred) have a random birth chance defined in the traits file. The birth chance defines the possibility of gaining this trait at random (not through inheritance). Inbred does not have a random birth chance because it uses a different mechanic.

Well like said , when a game is this buggy , when the system auto corrects itself , clashes in the events running .
Corruption happens , what mechanic is that then ?

That should reduce inbred to 0% chance !

 

[FreeSoc]

Well like said , when a game is this buggy , when the system auto corrects itself , clashes in the events running .
Corruption happens , what mechanic is that then ?

That should reduce inbred to 0% chance !

I've never seen the inbred trait in a child (or individual) who didn't have either:
- Closely related parents
- A parent with closely related parents
- Two parents of the same dynasty

If you have evidence to the contrary, I'd love to see it.

 

[Drake_Hound]

I've never seen the inbred trait in a child (or individual) who didn't have either:
- Closely related parents
- A parent with closely related parents
- Two parents of the same dynasty

If you have evidence to the contrary, I'd love to see it.

Well gave you enough tips how to reproduce it , if you still asking for proof .
guess you haven't experienced enough , asking for proof when you can emulate it yourself !
Cause proof ain't going to cut it anymore , some people need to learn things themself .

 

[FreeSoc]

Well gave you enough tips how to reproduce it , if you still asking for proof .
guess you haven't experienced enough , asking for proof when you can emulate it yourself !
Cause proof ain't going to cut it anymore , some people need to learn things themself .

Setting up 100 female characters and one male character in isolation, and then modding them all as lovers, and then impregnating every single one of the women with that man, would be hugely, hugely time-consuming, as would ensuring that none of them were in any way inbred or related.

I'm not going to take that as proof unless you're willing to test it yourself; at the minute all you've given is a hypothesis and a method, rather than any conclusive evidence that this results in children gaining the inbred trait (i.e. proof).

 

[Pilot00]

He *may* actually be the child of your wife's cousin who is also her lover? maybe?, but you mistakenly considered the baby to be yours when he was born.

It's not likely, but it may happen. I have pollinated countless wives-of-other-people and they still believed the child was legitimate, so I guess it may happen the other way around too.

Wait a minute, cousins produce inbreeds too? Oh ooooh, I need to stop claiming thrones from my relatives...

 

[Drake_Hound]

Setting up 100 female characters and one male character in isolation, and then modding them all as lovers, and then impregnating every single one of the women with that man, would be hugely, hugely time-consuming, as would ensuring that none of them were in any way inbred or related.

I'm not going to take that as proof unless you're willing to test it yourself; at the minute all you've given is a hypothesis and a method, rather than any conclusive evidence that this results in children gaining the inbred trait (i.e. proof).

i already did , it just copy and paste work , creating things in a savegame file , wanted to know the limit before the stacks of childeren goes haywire on the UI .
And let say enough inbred happened , not cause of affairs of little childeren .
Neither is it lesbians cause they don't have the homosexual trait .

But since you are too lazy to find the answer , I guess says enough , go try it first before saying you experienced it all .
everyday I find something new in this game that amazes me .

 

[kdonovan]

Wait a minute, cousins produce inbreeds too? Oh ooooh, I need to stop claiming thrones from my relatives...

There's a reason the Medieval Church insisted on no closer than 7th cousins or some such for a valid marriage. Of course this also meant that many royal marriages had grounds for an annulment baked into them...

 

[Rangergxi]

I've been going Brother x Sister/Cousin for a while a now and can't seem to get the inbred trait.