the game is unplayable.
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AE is cumulative you know, when a coalition doesn't form when you end a war it doesn't meant you're off the hook.
If a coalition forms after you take one province it's because you've accumulated a lot of AE over time, that last province was just the the straw that broke the camel's back.
If a coalition forms after you take one province it's because you've accumulated a lot of AE over time, that last province was just the the straw that broke the camel's back.
So, just for laughs I ran a test, ai on hard (for increased f-u player settings), day 1 no cb attack and annex Augsburg (more ae than just taking a province from Bohemia with a claim).
Bavaria, Milan, Hungary, Switzerland, Baden, and Bohemia form a coalition... Nothing unexpected there.
Poland, Venice, and Denmark not only don't join coalition but all maintain friendly attitude
Burgundy, France, and England all at war with each other and won't join coalition any time soon...
That was with 0 effort in maintaining any relations (no allies, no rms, no relation increasing, etc.)
So, stop sucking and l2p plus the story in the op is a lie...
Today I got over 50AE with all my neighbours for the vassalisation of Pomerania, a pretty massive coalition formed. While it's not really anything more than a minor inconvenience I think it is more than a little excessive. Yes I understand it is in the H.R.E. but I think something like 30 would have been more appropriate and even that would have created a coalition.
I really think you just misunderstood what happened in the game because what you claim happened simply doesn't make sense.
If you can copy a save of the game so we can see it, then maybe we can make some helpful suggestions.
on top of taking moriva, i made silesea my vassal, retry and do that and see if the great powers join
you really think i saved a mp game that i quited after 7years?
Oh. Yes, that will ruin you. And the user interface will even warn you that it's a bad idea, if you're paying attention.
Fortunately, as Austria you are well equipped to pursue other avenues of expansion.
I think that if it was the last game you ever played and you were the host then you will still have the autosave from the game. Failing that, if you quit then you would have had to give the save to someone else, so you must have it somewhere.
I mean, avoid taking provinces if you can. Vassal feeding is the way to go. An example. If you are playing with Russia, conquest in the east, enough for not having a coalition. After that, conquer in the west with the same steps. Take one province of a big vassal (like Ucrania from Lithuania) and feed it. The same in the east. Take one province with Kazakh core, feed it. Ming? The same. Is the way we all do. Conquering 2 provinces mean no coalition. More than 2 is a guaranteed coalition. Better relation diplomats help. Humanism also helps. Having high prestige helps. And your allies do not get AE. And if they get is insignificant.
Another example. You are brandenburg. You vassalize Pomerania (classical). A massive coalition is against you. But you don't care. Austria is your ally. What do you have to do? Improve relations with france to avoid the possibility of having them into a coalition against you before ending the war.
Another example. You are brandenburg. You vassalize Pomerania (classical). A massive coalition is against you. But you don't care. Austria is your ally. What do you have to do? Improve relations with france to avoid the possibility of having them into a coalition against you before ending the war.
2 unclaimed provinces plus one claimed in the HRE where everyone is same religion and most are same culture group (before considering the extra damage for being in the HRE)? Yeah, that's gonna get you in trouble with most of Europe that isn't your ally...
So now it's 3 provinces? I thought you insisted it was only 1. It's really hard to talk about this if you don't give all of the information.
Bohemia would also not join a coalition war that occured "2 years and then..." (sounds to me like ...3-4 years!) after he took Moravia from them because aggressive coalition wars will not be joined by nations you have a truce with...(which is the reason why you can have separate coalition wars in short order)
But yeah, how the hell can't you not have half of these nations as allies?
This.
Even inside of the HRE, taking a single province will not cause a world war. Sure, it will cause a local coalition with all your neighbours, but that's it.
PS: Ah, seems like he did indeed take more then just 1 province. As well grabbed a vassal and unclaimed territory. Case solved.
It's so sad that these days there are very few people who can use their brains to objectively analyse whether the game is too hard for them/unenjoyable or if it really is unplayable Unplayable definition doesn't apply when you face large coalitions due to your previous movements, got it?
Unplayable definition doesn't apply when you face large coalitions due to your previous movements, got it?
My guess is also that the OP had put himself in a position of having low manpower and/or troops. As France, IM, I went against my own usual advice, and annexed 3 provinces at once (Provence and its territories were just too tempting). But by keeping my manpower and troops up, and staying very quiet for awhile, the AI formed coalitions but did not strike.
Bohemia would also not join a coalition war that occured "2 years and then..." (sounds to me like ...3-4 years!) after he took Moravia from them because aggressive coalition wars will not be joined by nations you have a truce with...(which is the reason why you can have separate coalition wars in short order)
But yeah, how the hell can't you not have half of these nations as allies?
Yeah, but since the second coalition was Hungary, Bohemia, Bavaria and Venice it means that his first war would have had to be against all of them as well (in order for them to start a second coalition war). Somehow he fought all his neighbours with no allies, gained enough AE to get that mad coalition against him (which doesn't even make sense) and then got crushed by angry AIs.
Sounds like you ragequitted after making a big mistake, you should pay more attention to what you're taking and what the CB allows you to do. Don't hate the game for something you brought on yourself
You can however have 2 different coalition wars against you at the same time.
He did however say that the second coalition attacked after the first one had made peace.
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