the game is unplayable.

[Aaron1818]

the last time i played eu4 was when 1.7 freshly came out i started a MP game with a few people and i played as austria, 5years into the game i get a misson to take moriva so i do so.

next thing i know france,burgundy,denmark,poland,england. are all uniteing under a single banner to end me with coaltiaon cb.
so 2years later they completely siege me and have me relese syria, so im like 'well im the host so i should keep playing' then hungary,bomhiea,bavaria,venice do a coaltioan war.

WTF two coaltioan wars!??? for one province?

and this is why i dont play eu4 anymore, fix the bloody game.
i have given up on eu4.

 

[mgoetze]

You conquered all of Syria and you're surprised other countries are upset?!?

 

[Kubaliebre]

Omg this sucks DO SOMETHING PARADOX how ridiculous why can host not conquer anything???

 

[brifbates]

You got ganged up on in mp, it happens...

 

[Qoff]

You conquered all of Syria and you're surprised other countries are upset?!?

I dont think that France, Burgundy, Denmark, Poland and England should be upset about Syria, IMO coalitions are broken in the last patches, but is just a opinion.

 

[grommile]

You conquered all of Syria and you're surprised other countries are upset?!?

Reading more carefully, it appears that what happened is: Attack Bohemia, take Moravia province. Get dogpiled, and forced to release Styria (i.e. the Austrian-cultured country that starts the game with cores on most of Austria).

Being forced to release Styria straight out of the gate is pretty close to "lol gg" in MP.

 

[Sophotrates]

If those countries were all AI, then something's wrong. Even conquering without CB, AI should not enter coalition for one province and certainly not England and Denmark. If those were humans, well yeah, blame them

 

[Dakilla TM]

You conquered all of Syria and you're surprised other countries are upset?!?

I think he meant Styria, not Syria

 

[grommile]

If those countries were all AI, then something's wrong. Even conquering without CB, AI should not enter coalition for one province

Within the empire, even with a CB you can, in fact, end up getting dogpiled over a single province thanks to scaling modifiers...

and certainly not England and Denmark. If those were humans, well yeah, blame them

... but as you say, not by England and Denmark.

 

[Qoff]

I think he meant Styria, not Syria

Well if he conquered Styria then obvious the coalition is fair.

 

[grommile]

Well if he conquered Styria then obvious the coalition is fair.

Styria is part of Austria at game start!

 

[Qoff]

Styria is part of Austria at game start!

Yes, but he could release it and conquer, which is a good thing to do to break Austria. But conquer all it at once isn't a good idea.

 

[LeoBack]

The funny thing is the gangbang only hurt themself as it force block forming and world wars every single time witch make the game never go to the 1800

 

[Aaron1818]

Reading more carefully, it appears that what happened is: Attack Bohemia, take Moravia province. Get dogpiled, and forced to release Styria (i.e. the Austrian-cultured country that starts the game with cores on most of Austria).

Being forced to release Styria straight out of the gate is pretty close to "lol gg" in MP.

that is exactly what happened.

If those countries were all AI, then something's wrong. Even conquering without CB, AI should not enter coalition for one province and certainly not England and Denmark. If those were humans, well yeah, blame them

they were all AI

I think he meant Styria, not Syria

that is correct.

 

[LanMisa]

I have seen something similar in a game - happened to AI Austria after declaring war on Ulm. It seems that European powers don't like the Emperor declaring conquest wars on HRE princes.

On the other hand: I have NO idea how Austria - the mother of all diplomatic flagships in EU4 - can ever be so void of any allies! Many of the countries that declared on you would be natural alliances (Denmark, Poland, England, Hungary, even France or Burgundy if you play your cards right!). And countries in an alliance with you don't take any serious AE.

 

[DSYoungEsq]

I'm having trouble understanding what kind of MP game has a human Austria, and AI for France, Burgundy, Denmark, Poland, England, Hungary, Bohemia, Bavaria, and Venice. And I agree: if you haven't got an ally sufficient to help you beat back your enemies (preferably at least two of this group!), you're not doing it right. I'd give it another try and this time, get some allies BEFORE you start taking neighboring provs.

 

[Tacticus101]

I have to question the accuracy of this.

Firstly, to get that much AE you need to do more than take one province. Most likely there were other things like being caught fabricating claims or more wars fought, maybe some vassals.

Secondly, you cant get two separate coalitions against you. If france, burgundy, denmark, Poland and England fought a coalition war against you (somehow, cant see how any of them would form one since they are nowhere near you and all rivals) then there cant have been another separate coalition war by Hungary, Bohemia, Bavaria and Venice (though that seems like a much more realistic coalition to form against Austria).

Personally, the only way I can see that story making sense is if the OP joined a coalition against someone else and then got pulled into the war, being torn apart and then pounced on by the coalition against him.


Also, any coalition is predictable and can be dealt with. If you get crushed like that it is because you were too aggressive.

 

[indika_tates]

I don't understand the amount of whining about AE. Every SP I play, I got bored of blobbing with almost every country. The only place where you'll have serious troubles to blob is into the HRE. I agree that the AE reduction for lucky nations is absurd. France take 5 provinces in a war and nothing happens. Wurzburzderpderp take two provinces and a coalition of two of three big countries, Austria included cut them into pieces and someone take that provinces and integrate it without AE at all.

So. No one force the player to take enough AE to form a coalition. For example, in my current game a typical movement on the baltic sea is declaring war on Livonian Order, that is allied with Riga. You full annex Riga, and after you vasalize LO selling them back Riga and you have an excellent buffer vassal. Hungary, Austria, Sweden, Poland, Lithuania, Teutonic Order, Pomerania, Hansa and Novgorod and a bunch of minor HRE states entered into a coalition and they declared war on me. Scorching the border provinces and taking an affordable casus belli (Archangelsk) I won the coalition. I did it because I knew I can be succesful.

Few years later, everyone left the coalition. A bit of improving relations with the dangerous enemies and everything is done. In my opinion, AE is not so harsh. If you want to avoid a coalition improve relations before taking the AE. The game is balanced. And only for a province is not enough AE. Let me guess. You had enough AE before but not enough to give a country a Coalition CB against you. That two provinces was the thing that allowed your neighbours to declare war on you with Coalition CB.

Take your time, annex slowly, and improve relations with your neighbours before taking a massive AE with 3/4 parts of Europe.

 

[brifbates]

If france, burgundy, denmark, Poland and England fought a coalition war against you (somehow, cant see how any of them would form one since they are nowhere near you and all rivals) then there cant have been another separate coalition war by Hungary, Bohemia, Bavaria and Venice (though that seems like a much more realistic coalition to form against Austria).

I completely zipped passed that part, yeah there's no chance France and England join a coalition together against anyone for just taking a single province. Those two plus Burgundy? Even more laughable as an idea...

 

[Aaron1818]

I completely zipped passed that part, yeah there's no chance France and England join a coalition together against anyone for just taking a single province. Those two plus Burgundy? Even more laughable as an idea...

it happened and i got *** ******.
the AE atm is completely ahistorical
NONE of the great power would unite over one county.
infact, no countrys would unite over one county. ahistorical bs ruins every game i play

Take your time, annex slowly, and improve relations with your neighbours before taking a massive AE with 3/4 parts of Europe.

how do you go any slower then one count? one province? at a time? please explain.