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*shrug* beats me.
Anyway, I've been back scanning people's posts, character placement is very loose in the tavern, so I'm going to approximate if no one has a problem with that.
The impression that I have gotten is that Mario and Cai are sitting at one table, Diego/spaniards and gypsies at another, and Captain/Saul/Glory and other npc officers at another.
The rangers are at a seperate table, I'm fuzzy on the placement of Renault and a few others. I'm not really sure where I'm going with this, just setting it up in my head.
Edit: Renault is at the table with Captain, had to go back a couple of pages.
Anyway, I've been back scanning people's posts, character placement is very loose in the tavern, so I'm going to approximate if no one has a problem with that.
The impression that I have gotten is that Mario and Cai are sitting at one table, Diego/spaniards and gypsies at another, and Captain/Saul/Glory and other npc officers at another.
The rangers are at a seperate table, I'm fuzzy on the placement of Renault and a few others. I'm not really sure where I'm going with this, just setting it up in my head.
Edit: Renault is at the table with Captain, had to go back a couple of pages.
Theres two Gypsies(Vosho and Mozol) at Cai's table, and Bexhet is at the Spanish table. And theres a group of Gypsies playing music in one of the corners.
rj: great post. llywarch and gunshy think somewhat alike. my next post - until the hand gave out - was going to be llywrch in the tavrn commenting loudly about how women - and saracens = don't belong on campaign, they're bad luck, and all that. 'course, he wasn't going to actually start a fight over it.
Heh, no their won't be a fight. We got in trouble for that last time since its against the unwritten rules, I was actually going to end it with Gunshy storming out of the tavern, but I figured I might as well leave it at the high drama point a a major hook.
I don't really enjoy writing those posts, which is one reason it took me so long to get it up. To write it I have to become it, and I'm in a really foul mood now.
I don't really enjoy writing those posts, which is one reason it took me so long to get it up. To write it I have to become it, and I'm in a really foul mood now.
Gentlemen,
Huge apology coming.
I had a bad dose of real life nip me in the ass. On top of that I'm having a bitch of a time getting beyond the Server Busy message, which means doing anything from work is out. So, I have a limited window.
I'll catch up and move this puppy along tonight.
Sorry.
LD
Huge apology coming.
I had a bad dose of real life nip me in the ass. On top of that I'm having a bitch of a time getting beyond the Server Busy message, which means doing anything from work is out. So, I have a limited window.
I'll catch up and move this puppy along tonight.
Sorry.
LD
Don't feel too bad LD, not like it doesn't happen to everyone else.
As far as my thing goes, end it as you please, I have no desire or intention for my last post to start something like that mess in book IV.
As far as my thing goes, end it as you please, I have no desire or intention for my last post to start something like that mess in book IV.
RJ,
Seems reasonable to me. A little tension-especially between the Corsairs and the Company-is by no means a bad thing. Without it, the story carries about as much interest as a propaganda film.
I don't think Bruce had a problem with the conflict in Book IV, but the scale of it. And so far, we've kept it very mild, especially compared to that. The distate the Knights have for the Corsairs, the distrust among certain Company men, the contempt among certain Corsairs-it all adds up to a much more satisfying tale. For example, much as I've enjoyed Gunshy's comic attributes so far (and I want to add Raymond to the mix, when I have more time), I know far, far, far more about his character from our series of posts than from any of that before it. I trust-hope-there's a bit more of Amina, though it was LLE's post that really captured the fire beneath the flirtatious sneer I've given her.
That isn't to say they'll always be at odds-there's plenty of rich development when you have many competing interests. Could be they wind up grudging comrades. But if the good guys not only all wear white hats but the same white hat, there's no development at all. The characters, plot, relationships, etc., are the same on page 1,000 as they were on page 1.
In short, after all that rambling, great post. You captured Amina very well, and I think the subtle and dangerous mood at the table is much preferred to making a big scene. Whereas with the bartender it was a local with a pistol all the professionals could tell he didn't know how to use, with Gunshy versus Amina or Saul it'd have the potential to escalate to outright bloodshed. And I think that's what Bruce is leary of-not in-fighting in general.
Of course, I could be wrong and he'll correct me if I am. But we done good, I think, and I'll have a closer when I get home in a couple hours. Let me know, LD, if you wanted to jump in-if not, I'll be sure to write Captain in-character. A Brandon at heart, wet behind the ears or not.
Seems reasonable to me. A little tension-especially between the Corsairs and the Company-is by no means a bad thing. Without it, the story carries about as much interest as a propaganda film.
I don't think Bruce had a problem with the conflict in Book IV, but the scale of it. And so far, we've kept it very mild, especially compared to that. The distate the Knights have for the Corsairs, the distrust among certain Company men, the contempt among certain Corsairs-it all adds up to a much more satisfying tale. For example, much as I've enjoyed Gunshy's comic attributes so far (and I want to add Raymond to the mix, when I have more time), I know far, far, far more about his character from our series of posts than from any of that before it. I trust-hope-there's a bit more of Amina, though it was LLE's post that really captured the fire beneath the flirtatious sneer I've given her.
That isn't to say they'll always be at odds-there's plenty of rich development when you have many competing interests. Could be they wind up grudging comrades. But if the good guys not only all wear white hats but the same white hat, there's no development at all. The characters, plot, relationships, etc., are the same on page 1,000 as they were on page 1.
In short, after all that rambling, great post. You captured Amina very well, and I think the subtle and dangerous mood at the table is much preferred to making a big scene. Whereas with the bartender it was a local with a pistol all the professionals could tell he didn't know how to use, with Gunshy versus Amina or Saul it'd have the potential to escalate to outright bloodshed. And I think that's what Bruce is leary of-not in-fighting in general.
Of course, I could be wrong and he'll correct me if I am. But we done good, I think, and I'll have a closer when I get home in a couple hours. Let me know, LD, if you wanted to jump in-if not, I'll be sure to write Captain in-character. A Brandon at heart, wet behind the ears or not.
I agree HG, in fact that was why when I was done I re-wrote all the 'reaching for weapon' phrases into potential 'reaching for weapon phrases.' If there was a weak part in my descriptions, it was in Captain, I'm just not certain how to write him yet, so I decided to go conservative and give him the Brandon spine & command authority duo once he was back in a command type setting, as opposed to the relatively young man flirtation setting. I was also really careful with Amina, as I'm unsure exactly how she might have reacted, but I had to have on react, so I went with Captain.
A shame you *didn't* have Gunny go banging out -- I've already got some choice words picked out for Glorious to share with him. I'd cut such a thing in myself, but this is your party, and I don't want to elbow my way into your fight.
If you guys decide to move that along, could you leave me a hook for Glorious to go after his artillery compatriot? Bruce might move us along, but that's no biggie -- I have an angle I can take after a time jump, too.
I'd cut such a thing in myself, but this is your party, and I don't want to elbow my way into your fight. If you guys decide to move that along, could you leave me a hook for Glorious to go after his artillery compatriot? Bruce might move us along, but that's no biggie -- I have an angle I can take after a time jump, too.
Of course...36 is divisible by 9,6,4,13, 3 so there is indeed more things that can be done. I never disagreed with that. I just don't know whether LD wants us to go about screwing up his OOB...Valdemar said:
And another set of posts from Mario and Andre. Hooks for Phalanx if he ever shows up again<Von Stark>, Diego<V>, and Andrew and Arpad. Oh, and redwolf as Cai and MeiFeng of course...or even YaoHui...
Hmm, Amric, I'm actually not certain that Arpad would have reacted the way you portrayed him. He probably would not have answered at first, then stayed standing. His history is one of violence, not social subtlety, and so he believes that the imminent threat of force is more likely to scare down a potential battle by convincing them they're in danger rather than, er...aloofing them into frightened submission.
He doesn't want to use the knives, and since we know OOC that violence isn't going to break out, he won't be, but he intends to show support for the Company boys and won't just sit down, *especially* once he's committed to a confrontational stance, lest he look cowardly/weak.
Just who he is, don't want to be troublesome...I could do the re-write, if you want? But that one's just too far out of his character. Sorry to be a pain.
He doesn't want to use the knives, and since we know OOC that violence isn't going to break out, he won't be, but he intends to show support for the Company boys and won't just sit down, *especially* once he's committed to a confrontational stance, lest he look cowardly/weak.
Just who he is, don't want to be troublesome...I could do the re-write, if you want? But that one's just too far out of his character. Sorry to be a pain.
Amric said:
So...you've got it then? Or did you want me to type something up, then send it to you so you can edit it in and we won't mess with the flow once LD advances the story?
vS - Oh, I thought you were doing it...I'm not entirely sure how to go about it...and I had some dental work done prior to when I wrote that...and now I'm hopped up on vicadin...
Hawk,
As Bruce hasn't indicated he wants to jump in, I'm going to go ahead and close things down in my post. It'd be real incongruous to leave that scene unresolved in a plot jump. So we can play it one of two ways-either I hook Glory to take Gunshy aside after the tension has been diffused or you jump in now and hook me to finish things up.
Entirely your choice. Just try to let me know in the next half hour-hour so I can start writing if need be.
Oh, and part of the fun in this is the real tension arising from the sensation someone is going to write it too far. The suspense. I realize we can't have the Company men, the Corsairs and the Knights start killing one another in the tavern, but the certainty that they won't and that everybody will cool down is... I dunno. A bit deflating. Even if originally I hadn't expected the fight in the first place.
I think we can walk a bit closer to the edge than we're walking now. These are all warriors, afterall, quick tempered and prone to violence. It's not uncommon for them to pull knives and guns on each other, even wound each other, and forgive and forget in the morning. But ah well... It's good writing, nonetheless.
As Bruce hasn't indicated he wants to jump in, I'm going to go ahead and close things down in my post. It'd be real incongruous to leave that scene unresolved in a plot jump. So we can play it one of two ways-either I hook Glory to take Gunshy aside after the tension has been diffused or you jump in now and hook me to finish things up.
Entirely your choice. Just try to let me know in the next half hour-hour so I can start writing if need be.
Oh, and part of the fun in this is the real tension arising from the sensation someone is going to write it too far. The suspense. I realize we can't have the Company men, the Corsairs and the Knights start killing one another in the tavern, but the certainty that they won't and that everybody will cool down is... I dunno. A bit deflating. Even if originally I hadn't expected the fight in the first place.
I think we can walk a bit closer to the edge than we're walking now. These are all warriors, afterall, quick tempered and prone to violence. It's not uncommon for them to pull knives and guns on each other, even wound each other, and forgive and forget in the morning. But ah well... It's good writing, nonetheless.
Amric said:vS - Oh, I thought you were doing it...I'm not entirely sure how to go about it...and I had some dental work done prior to when I wrote that...and now I'm hopped up on vicadin...
Ahhhh vicadin, good for what ails ya.
PMed the re-write to you, you can edit it in at your leisure.Amric said:vS - Oh, I thought you were doing it...I'm not entirely sure how to go about it...and I had some dental work done prior to when I wrote that...and now I'm hopped up on vicadin...
vicodan; please send me some. the junk they have me on doesnt work for crap
All,
Going ahead with my post. I'll leave it open for responses and further action, but I'm resolving the main portion of the conflict in advance of Bruce's plot move.
Going ahead with my post. I'll leave it open for responses and further action, but I'm resolving the main portion of the conflict in advance of Bruce's plot move.