Amric said:
No he didn't. For reasons unknown to us, Fallen Angel doubled back after Chen and Amric left, bypassing the guards who were not very alert.
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No he didn't. For reasons unknown to us, Fallen Angel doubled back after Chen and Amric left, bypassing the guards who were not very alert.
Amric said:
Amric,
From the previous FA post:
"He sat on a warm, flat rock for a moment before reapplying his costume and beginning the long hobble back toward the city. He had much to do to prepare for the Sultan's arrival."
So, yes, he's back, having returned in the disguise of an old cripple. Of course, now he's gone again, and with the siege underway now he'll have trouble getting back in. Don't worry, he has some ideas.
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RW,
Nono, he turned back again when the guards made an appearance and headed back through the hole, then re-entered the city through the main gate.
T Hawk- Okay...I missed the part where he came back into the city. Now I understand. I refuse to worry what Fallen Angel does, I don't know what he is up to or that he is even around.
LL= I wasn't planning on going INTO the camp...just using rockets on them...
LL= I wasn't planning on going INTO the camp...just using rockets on them...
I know, just incase anyone gets any ideas along those lines he would want to go. Though theres more then one way to skin a cat, or save a girl.
V, are there anything we still need to do on the 17th or can we on to the 18th tio carry on with our plan?
No raids or open hostilities unless LD sanctions it, and i guess for now we await whether Ishak Pasha will issue terms...
Incidently I'm working on a Pasha post but not on that in particuallr
V
Incidently I'm working on a Pasha post
but not on that in particuallr V
Valdemar said:
No worries, V. I think they will be too busy to think about night raids now.
Me, an respectful merchant walking the street like some common soldiers.
Maybe, just maybe, Sapphire will meet his enemies along the patrol route.
Sapphire
I've been digesting what T_H wrote earlier about 'covering all the bases', and though I didn't really see it at first, I have to agree.
So, I want to take a step back, for the benefit of the new writers as well as those who have been around, and restate the goals of this collaboration.
Firstly, it's all about the story. There is a central theme in mind and I have several subplots and surprises along the way to ensure that it remains fresh. Therefore, I ask that anyone with a particular subplot approach me about it before putting it into motion. As the veterans know, I seldom turn down a subplot, and often time will work it into the main story arc and offer improvements. Subplots that appear out of nowhere can have disasterous or damaging results (IE: the sophist subplot earlier in this Book that almost forced me to close the project down and a similar out of the blue near-disaster in Book IV when the Emperor suddenly changed character under a different writer). I don't want to deal with that. That said, I have no problem with the 'sister held by the Turks' subplot. However, I have a better idea how to handle that, so expect a PM.
Secondly, Captain is still the boss. He may not always be around, but then he defers to his lieutenants. Unfortunately the people who write for the LTs are AWOL, but their 'personalities' are still in place. Please respect these personalities and don't use them as mouth pieces to pursue your own character's goals. It can be a fine line, but if in doubt, check with Vald, T_H or myself before following a course of action.
On a positive note, I applaud Sapphire and Lord Leto for quickly picking up the interaction portion of this tale. Hats off to you, it's not an easy thing to do.
I have a map, cleaned up courtesy of T_H, that I hope to post later today after adding the forces.
So, I want to take a step back, for the benefit of the new writers as well as those who have been around, and restate the goals of this collaboration.
Firstly, it's all about the story. There is a central theme in mind and I have several subplots and surprises along the way to ensure that it remains fresh. Therefore, I ask that anyone with a particular subplot approach me about it before putting it into motion. As the veterans know, I seldom turn down a subplot, and often time will work it into the main story arc and offer improvements. Subplots that appear out of nowhere can have disasterous or damaging results (IE: the sophist subplot earlier in this Book that almost forced me to close the project down and a similar out of the blue near-disaster in Book IV when the Emperor suddenly changed character under a different writer). I don't want to deal with that. That said, I have no problem with the 'sister held by the Turks' subplot. However, I have a better idea how to handle that, so expect a PM.
Secondly, Captain is still the boss. He may not always be around, but then he defers to his lieutenants. Unfortunately the people who write for the LTs are AWOL, but their 'personalities' are still in place. Please respect these personalities and don't use them as mouth pieces to pursue your own character's goals. It can be a fine line, but if in doubt, check with Vald, T_H or myself before following a course of action.
On a positive note, I applaud Sapphire and Lord Leto for quickly picking up the interaction portion of this tale. Hats off to you, it's not an easy thing to do.
I have a map, cleaned up courtesy of T_H, that I hope to post later today after adding the forces.
In fact, I am considering a Jaeger post putting the kibosh on any night time attack for the 17th...He would consider the Turk capable of thinking the FC interested in doing such a stunt and prepare a surprise for anyone foolish enough to step outside the walls on that night...What do you think, LD?
Due to a sudden find of a later siege of Belgrade with maps I've had to change some 'assumptions' about the enemy layout. I won't be able to post until tonight, but the gist is that the heights are app. 3 miles distant from the city. Therefore the Turks will construct their lines of circumvallation a lot closer to the city and on the 'flat' ground below the heights. Naturally the workers will be heavily guarded so I think an immediate raid would be out of the question -- besides, I think Pasha would suspect something like that.Amric said:
More details to follow. Dinner calls. Lord Leto, no problem. I like the idea, but I have something more dramatic in mind. Bear with me.
Heres a map of the initial deployment. Note the Company LTs will control both their own forces and Allied forces for simplicity. Each regiment will be app. 3,000 men, except for Clayborne who will have about 1,000 at the dock. That will give us our tidy 10,000 man garrison.
Note: The jagged lines where the Janisarries and the Main Camp is located marks the Heights -- so they are on the heights. The Rumelians and the Anatolians guard the palisades.
LD looking at that map and comparing to Hawks and others Id say the white area are the Fortress hill and walls, and where you put the first line of Anatolians are where the outer walls are?
Otherwise the city becomes awfully smal compred to that Island, or sandbank in the intersection of the rivers?
Pasha does indeed have a few things he wants to get off his chest, but he will do so at the convenience of my work tomorrow.
V
EDIT I count 55.000 Turks plus 25.000 on patrol south, do they include the garrison at Nissa? those odds are not too bad 5-1 in direct battle 8-1 if you include patrols
V
Otherwise the city becomes awfully smal compred to that Island, or sandbank in the intersection of the rivers?
Pasha does indeed have a few things he wants to get off his chest, but he will do so at the convenience of my work tomorrow.
V
EDIT I count 55.000 Turks plus 25.000 on patrol south, do they include the garrison at Nissa? those odds are not too bad 5-1 in direct battle 8-1 if you include patrols
V
Let's see.
10,000 FC vs. 55,000 Turks + 25,000 Cavalry.
That makes it 8:1. so we need each of us to kill at least 8 ot them ....
Oh well, it could be worse. And besides, maybe Henri has a younger brother...
10,000 FC vs. 55,000 Turks + 25,000 Cavalry.
That makes it 8:1. so we need each of us to kill at least 8 ot them ....
Oh well, it could be worse. And besides, maybe Henri has a younger brother...
Oh I forgot to add, incase anyones confused as to why Zorica and Marek address each other in differnt names those are their Roma names, like I said in his bio Roma have 3 names, 1 known only to their monther, 1 for use with other Roma, and 1 of use with gajikane/outsiders. Nicu is Mareks Roma name, and Dika Zoricas.
Valdemar said:LD looking at that map and comparing to Hawks and others Id say the white area are the Fortress hill and walls, and where you put the first line of Anatolians are where the outer walls are?
Otherwise the city becomes awfully smal compred to that Island, or sandbank in the intersection of the rivers?
Pasha does indeed have a few things he wants to get off his chest, but he will do so at the convenience of my work tomorrow.
V
EDIT I count 55.000 Turks plus 25.000 on patrol south, do they include the garrison at Nissa? those odds are not too bad 5-1 in direct battle 8-1 if you include patrols
V
No, the white area is the entire city. At that time it was only about 1 1/2 miles in depth and maybe 2 1/2 wide. The 'outer walls' are the Turkish palisides, their location is based on Prince Eugene's siege of Belgrade in 1717.
Your count reflects Pasha's army. Sulyman has his own garrison still. Do you want to write an 'ultimatum' post for Pasha?
Sure, I will write something for him, but not today
I was doing a quick google before I wrote it, and while I couldn't find an old one I found a few tourist maps, they all had the white area denoted "Fortress area" and had several points of interest around the palisades denoted "old town" "cathedral" and so on, that ofc could reflect the old town being from 1600-1700 it would still be old
It makes no difference, it just seemed small and that peculiar shape sparked a memory thats all
V
I was doing a quick google before I wrote it, and while I couldn't find an old one I found a few tourist maps, they all had the white area denoted "Fortress area" and had several points of interest around the palisades denoted "old town" "cathedral" and so on, that ofc could reflect the old town being from 1600-1700 it would still be old
It makes no difference, it just seemed small and that peculiar shape sparked a memory thats all
V
Valdemar said:I was doing a quick google before I wrote it, and while I couldn't find an old one I found a few tourist maps, they all had the white area denoted "Fortress area" and had several points of interest around the palisades denoted "old town" "cathedral" and so on, that ofc could reflect the old town being from 1600-1700 it would still be old
Indeed, the map I used to generate that one had that area as the Kalmegdan/fortress region. But as you say, it really doesn't matter -- what's significant is:
1) Belgrade has walls, and a fortress on a hill along the confluence of the Sava and Danube;
2) The Turks are on the other side of those walls; and
3) The defenders are currently defending the walls, and can fall back to the fortress if things go sour.
At least, that's how I see it.
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