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To address a few points. Rebel was banned for several reasons beyond anything to do with the AAR forum. But, the affected always have an excuse or two. Mods abusing power? How many times have I ever come down hard on someone? I can count on a couple of fingers of one hand... over two years that's pretty damned lenient.

One of the Primary rules of writing collaborative fiction, whether it be the FC or what have you, is to remain within the spirit of the experience. That rule is in my very first post in this thread. I admit I'm too lax, or too nice a guy, at times to put my foot down. I'd rather try to steer away from problem areas by using the story itself. Some people get it, some don't.

Mach, I know you are new to this, so sometimes it's hard to know where to fit in and when. Listen to the veterans when they offer advice. They were all rookies like you at one time. In fact, Vald's character was one of the toughest to work in, and he knows it. And yet, look at the quality of material he produces. The_Hawk was another. His original character was meant to be part-time, and suited for one specific role, and yet now he's helping me run this. Amric was an exception. He came on board late, but posted his way right into the middle of key plot lines, in a non-disruptive manner (beyond his penchant for weird ideas ;) ). I could cite many more examples. Part of the process of collaborative writing is to make something out of nothing. In other words, if things are slow, interact with some other characters, tell some of your background, some of your likes and dislikes. Personally I thought that HG I's character had lots of potential. Why? Because he's basically a reporter. What should he be doing? Going from campfire to campfire and asking people about themselves. What a great way to expand and express your character.

Granted, the FC has morphed into a collection of nationalities that I never envisioned at the beginning, but part of the fun was making the mix beleivable. Mercenary companies usually forgot about religion so long as they got paid. And not all mercenary companies from the era were corrupt brigands. Hawkwood's White Company was known for their honour and loyalty to their employer. There's a statue of him in Florence, IIRC.

So, if we want this to continue, Judge's last post is a perfect break point. The timeline can advance a week. However, I want to get back to telling the story of the FC, with no more distractions.

And Judge, you would never be banned for expressing an opinion on your material. So don't even go there...
 

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Originally posted by Lord Durham
To address a few points. Rebel was banned for several reasons beyond anything to do with the AAR forum. But, the affected always have an excuse or two. Mods abusing power? How many times have I ever come down hard on someone? I can count on a couple of fingers of one hand... over two years that's pretty damned lenient.

SNIP

And Judge, you would never be banned for expressing an opinion on your material. So don't even go there...

I agree wholeheartedly, and that was what I tied to say in a humourous way, maybe I failed, nobody ever said anything about abusing modpowers, the comment on Rebel I took as a joke?

Judge, I still think you should hang on a to a character like O'Brien, a fighter, or make another one, just make it less controversial :D

And look now, I haven't had time to update my own AAR :eek: :rolleyes:

Like I ever have :rofl:

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Originally posted by Lord Durham

And Judge, you would never be banned for expressing an opinion on your material. So don't even go there...

LD I will not, I like this forum too much:)

V maybe later but not now, it would not be a good idea. Borroughs and Gunney will stick around in Ragusa and I actually have an idea about a Christmas report from “Ragusa Inn”. What about that?

Perhaps they will join the Company in some large battle later on to save their old friends, not much time for Sophist ideas then eh? :D
 

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Originally posted by Judge
LD I will not, I like this forum too much:)
"So don't even go there..." is a figure of speech. It wasn't meant literally.

I will try to come up with a post today... though it's highly unlikely. Tomorrow for sure. Either way, the timeline will advance one week.
 

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I have one q.

Turks and EJ's mysterymen ;) how come they can get this close to both the city (I assume farmers and other villagers live nearby) and the camp, with both light cavalry and Rangers scouring the area regualry?

V

My mysterymen are a plot device... a lead in if you will :) That's all I'll say ;)

Now I need to catch up with what's been going on. Go out of town for a couple days and come back with way too much going on ;)

EJ

EDIT>> I like your posts Judge, even the thought crime parts are not bad, I think the hard part was the affect on the men and the small revolution. Nothing wrong with being a difficult soldier, lord knows I had more then enough in my platoon when I was an acting Platoon Sergeant. I'd like to see more of your writing and look forward to Gunney and Burroughs return. ;) Although don't expect a warm greeting... hehehe
 
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LD is right...I do have weird ideas...but my character is developing into a thinking soldier as well as a fighting one. I am trying to develop him into something other than a ogre sergeant. A man of deeper complexity and a man who cares deeply for his men, even if he doesn't always show it in ways that they understand....

I did have an advantage in jumping into the last book late though. I have done collaborative fiction before. Fifteen years ago I was doing collaborative Science Fiction. This isn't that much different, just a bit more structured is all. Which is good, in my opinion. Plus I had a small limited experience trying to do a collaborative AAR with others as well. But the basic idea is to try and do the best that you can.

Start off small if you want. Conversations with people is a good way to go. Especially with people like Oskar, George, Alexander, Cyril is especially good, Geoffrey, et al. Start with some of the smaller role characters and work up to interacting with the more major characters.

If you notice, most of my posts are with minor characters, who are still quite important, but not major characters. Amric doesn't really interact with Captain hardly at all. Or with Lochlan either, for that matter. Mostly Baer is the most major character that he interacts with on a regular basis. Makes sense as he and Amric are both sergeants. Even Amric's LT is someone he only rarely interacts with.

In reality, I really should interact more with my own LT, Erik Jaeger, but I just haven't really gotten a true handle on him enough to feel comfortable writing for him. I feel more comfortable writing for Baer, as he and Amric have a lot in common, being sergeants. But that is just me.

In essence it is all a matter of where your comfort level is. Another way is to interact with your fellow newcomers. They are having the same issues as you are, to a greater or lesser extent. And it would be VERY natural, regardless of nationality, to kind of stick together as you all came in at the same time. A 'safety' net of sorts. People you can relate to quickly as they are just as new to the fold as you are. Just a suggestion though.
 

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Certainly I have found the delights in playing a grog.

There is something extra-ordinarily exhilarting by not having to be overly concerned about plot, and being able to concentrate on character. Certainly I have to take note of the plot for Oskar and Gerd, and it is also a wonderful resource. Means I don't really have to think up the story.

Amric, LD, T_H, I'm sending you all basically the same PM.
 

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Originally posted by stnylan
Certainly I have found the delights in playing a grog.

There is something extra-ordinarily exhilarting by not having to be overly concerned about plot, and being able to concentrate on character. Certainly I have to take note of the plot for Oskar and Gerd, and it is also a wonderful resource. Means I don't really have to think up the story.

Amric, LD, T_H, I'm sending you all basically the same PM.

Got it, read it, and am now thinking about it....You did notice the interaction between Amric, Gerd, and Oskar in my last post? Showed the idea that him getting an idea out is a bit difficult, but not absolutely impossible. Just slower...and Oskar gave enough limited information for it to help Amric. Without out him I would have to say it would be a bit more difficult...Will still cogitate on your PM though....
 

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Hey Amric...

Work in a post or two with Erik Jaeger, think of him as someone who looks at the world in black and white. He tolerates little in the way of stupidity and is an expert tactician, he's also a solid officer. Interacts little with the troops and really only interacts with Baer since he is the Senior Sergeant. He's not unapproachable to the sergeants, but rarely will he interact with normal troops unless he "needs" too. He believes in the use of the chain of command. ;)

I think it was once stated, he's not as lethal as Lochlan in single combat, but put the two across a battlefield and he could most likely win the day against him. Thats because while Lochlan was fighting for his survival, Erik was learning tactics of armies, thus Erik tends to see the bigger picture of maneuver. Lochlan is coming along though... he doesn't always rush head first into combat... well... most of the time (mutters about the escapades in Constantinople)
 

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Amric - I certainly did notice and I liked what I saw. I might possibly post something light with Oskar/Gerd tonight, but don't hold onto your horses. All depends how quickly I get tired.
 

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Erik- How do you think Erik would react to some of Amric's recent ideas, such as the 'grenadiers', et al? I think my character is going to have to talk to him about it soon, and a little heads up would help me quite a bit. Seeing things in black and white is cool, but this is so totally outside that, in a way I am not sure how he would react. Although in a way, as a tactician he ought to appreciate the surprise and total devastation of it...

stnylan- I was hoping I had captured them right in that respect. I have done only so so with them prior to that and was hoping that I had finally captured them better this time...
 

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He would listen to your ideas but the tried and true ways are his ways. He may be willing to allow some testing done but definately nothing in combat until it is proven to him. "You and your outlandish ideas..." ;)
 

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Originally posted by Valdemar
I have one q.

Turks and EJ's mysterymen ;) how come they can get this close to both the city (I assume farmers and other villagers live nearby) and the camp, with both light cavalry and Rangers scouring the area regualry?

V

Post up describing how the Turks could have gotten that close to the camp without detection.
 

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RW,

Whoa... the couple deserters du Pont ran into were OK, but could you trim out the Turkish camp? LD is planning on moving us along tomorrow, after all, and that's going to be derailed if the light cav suddenly has a battle to prosecute.

Don't worry. There will be action aplenty, in good time. ;)

(EDIT: Well, let EJ and Amric argue about the merits of new ideas -- the rank and file have cast their vote in favor of not blowing their hands off... ;) Will try to get something up from Maria before we press on... I've been giving her the short shrift lately.)
 
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It was not supposed to be a hook or anything. In fact, I meant for the skirmish to be finished in my one post alone. I will edit it a little so that it's self contained. It won't affect the rest of the plot.

EDIT: alright post edited. Ok with you now Hawk?
 
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The timeline has been advanced. The key focal point for the moment is the uncertainty surrounding the events and the lack of information, in addition to their role.

I kicked around the idea of dispatching a small delegation to Belgrade, but I was unsure who to include. Is Frederik still with the group? Anyway, more will follow this weekend. The timeline will jump ahead rather quickly over the next week as we ramp up for the next segment.
 

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LD- Advanced?:rofl: Backwards two years? May 5, 1440?:) I know, I'm being a pain in the tailbone....I just couldn't resist twitting you about it...I almost had to go back and check dates...


Post up, and Captain gets a chance to ream Amric for not telling him information that could have been helpful...since Amric has been in the area before..>Hungary anyway...and Bulgaria...
 
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*sigh* Busy week and writer's block conspire to keep me from posting. I have an idea for Kincaid-Cyril interaction, but I can't think of anything that involves other people's characters.

Originally posted by Lord Durham
I kicked around the idea of dispatching a small delegation to Belgrade, but I was unsure who to include. Is Frederik still with the group?

If Stroph is up for it, you can send Remi, Landen's in-house diplomat. Irkut can tag along too if any skulking/espionage is expected.

EDIT: Are we going to run into anything on the road north (like something the rangers should know about)?
 
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