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coz1- Yeah, I found the screen shots and so could get back in to updating. And as to Polk; one of my favorite presidents, but his place in this history is not as impressive as it was in ours.

Also, a weird note: for some reason the 1844 election went from 1844 to 1850. I dont know if it was some weird error, but it just occured. So strange.
 
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Birth of His Nation
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President Clay, ever a compromiser, had compromised himself into a bind. He now had enemies on all sides. The New Englanders feared his southern heritage and his silent stance on the issue of slavery. The Southerners distrusted his Whig politics and his seemingly pro-Northern economic stand. Midwesterners were happy with many of his policies, but the growth of political power houses and the fear of Mexican invasion turned many against the Whig policy of neutrality; something they were all for in 1844. Finally the New South, dominated by its Democratic politicos, never shared a common relation with the forlorn President.

Due to the Ballot Crisis of 1848, in which the Washington Fire of 1848 destroyed all the collected results, Clay remained President until January of 1850. These two years were two years that would shape the history of the country in a way few others had. In 1845, Charles Allen was murdered. It was a seemingly innocuous event, but it was to have far reaching consequences. Washington Hunt, a young lawyer from New York, was the prosecutor in the trial of his death. Soon Hunt became enamored with the late politicians’ beliefs.

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Washington Hunt

Following the trial, in which no conviction was found, Hunt began associating with Allen’s fellow politicians. In the young American Party, these men promised a new revolution for America, and called upon the United States to extend her power from ocean to ocean, and control all in between. This American Party grew from the Know-Nothings, a group of Nativist politicians who despised the rise of immigrants in the US. Championed by Charles Allen, the Know-Nothings formed a political party, one which cast out Irish and Catholics and promoted the white Anglo-Saxon protestants who controlled much of New York.

Following his election as New York State Comptroller in early 1849, Hunt turned his party national. Waving the green flag of the Green Mountain Boys (ironically a group formed to oppose New Yorkers), Hunt sought out a presidential candidate for 1850. Hunt had chosen the Green Mountain Boys because Charles Allen claimed to be a relative of Ethan Allen, the Green Mountain Boys commander. Hunt proclaimed his party as the party of heroes, come to re-claim America for Americans.

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The flag of the American Party

Hunt began traveling across the country seeking a candidate to run for him, and campaigning for his party. Hunt, and his compatriots, understood the power of the Rail Road, and invested heavily in trans-continental journeys for support. Most traditional politicians rebuffed the offer to join this upstart group of rabble rousers. In fact, it became so perilous to associate with the American Party that men began hiding their allegiance to the organization. Nevertheless, in the taverns and back streets of the major cities of America, men started joining the party. The allure of a new America seemed to take root in the minds of men who were distrustful of the political dynamos who ruled America in the 1840’s. Hunt slowly weaned out some of the more radical policies towards the Irish and immigrants and focused on the idea of ‘Manifest Destiny’, a term coined in 1845 by John L. O'Sullivan.

With Manifest Destiny as their catchphrase, and their green flag leading the way, the American Party took the country by storm. In the 1848 congressional elections, the American Party took 10 seats in Congress, 4 away from Democrats and 6 from Whigs. This caused some panic in the ranks, and slowly men on both sides began falling in with this new crowd. Groups such as the Richmond Gang still held a great deal of power in the Old South, but their effectiveness had been dimmed due to other political blocs such as the Southern and Whig triumvirates. With the lack of any central authority, fringe politicians became free to roam. The core remained loyal, but many fell behind American Party bills.

This was the scene onto which Charles Magill Conrad stepped in. Conrad was a Virginia born Louisiana man. He was defeated after being appointed to the US Senate by the Southern Triumvirate. From the experience he gained a hatred and distrust for the major parties, one which carried over well with the American Party, and Hunt in particular. Officially a Whig, Conrad official changed parties and pledged loyalty to the Blue and Green (as the American Party flag began to be called). Conrad agreed, at Hunt’s suggestion, to run for President on the American Party ticket, with Hunt as his Vice President. The American Party was born.

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Charles Magill Conrad
 

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Well, Clay does seem to suffer the fate of all moderates in highly-charged atmopsherers - to be hated and despised by all. Whether he deserves the opprobrium or not is a trickier question.

And a new voice to the growing fray. I wonder if there are going to be any interesting sparks.
 

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Very interesting developments. And a curious but entirely believable way to handle the odd election cycle.
 

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Stynlan: opprobrium, big word. Clay has never been one of my favorite figures in history, so my portraying of his presidency kind of comes off as biased.

coz: Thanks, I didn't even notice it until I started going through the screen shots and realized my election cycle got screwed up. Dont think it happens again.
 

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The Ballot Crisis of 1848 -- fire destroying ballots -- hilarious! :rofl: A brilliant way to incorporate game-strangeness into the story.

And Henry Clay as President! Wow. That changes everything. Nativists running for President now.

You have a good deal of the historical fractionalization captured -- it'll be interesting to see how it turns out!

And thanks for putting Garrison in -- he's one of my favorites!

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Rensslaer said:
The Ballot Crisis of 1848 -- fire destroying ballots -- hilarious! :rofl: A brilliant way to incorporate game-strangeness into the story.

And Henry Clay as President! Wow. That changes everything. Nativists running for President now.

You have a good deal of the historical fractionalization captured -- it'll be interesting to see how it turns out!

And thanks for putting Garrison in -- he's one of my favorites!

Rensslaer

Thanks very much :) Garrison will come back with a vengeance soon enough.
 

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The problem with compromise is you can end up as a cop in a domestic dispute - set upon by both sides. As this actually happened to Henry Clay, we shouldn't be surprised.

I agree that the 'ballot crisis' is a nice invention. Had the Electoral College already gone home? Hard to think the House and Senate wouldn't have gotten involved.
 

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This is a good AAR! I hope America can get more powerful though. It is depressing watching Mexico kick America's but even though I am Mexican-American.
 

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Director said:
The problem with compromise is you can end up as a cop in a domestic dispute - set upon by both sides. As this actually happened to Henry Clay, we shouldn't be surprised.

I agree that the 'ballot crisis' is a nice invention. Had the Electoral College already gone home? Hard to think the House and Senate wouldn't have gotten involved.

It only gets worse for poor Henry Clay. We will say yes, the Electoral College scurried on home and the House and Senate just agreed to pass an extension to the term of Clay, saves me from trying to fit a 2 year presidency into the mix. I never realized the election cycle went wonky until I sat down and started to write, discovering that the 1848 election never occured.

Anarcho Liberal: A powerful America and a subdued Mexico, hmmm... might be you will like the near future.
 

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The Election of 1850
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Henry Clay, with the coming of 1850, knew he could not win if he ran for President on the Whig ticket. He had angered far too many people with his moderate stance. He felt he had achieved those goals he could; overturning the Jacksonian economic structures, establishing tariffs and taxation on international trade, re-establishing a balance between Slave and Free State, and helping spread the growth of Whig power throughout the country. His contemporaries did not see it that way. Rather they saw him as either a pro-Slave power traitor or a Whig dictator intent on limiting Southern economic power.

Thus, as the election of 1850 approached, following the disastrous Ballot Fire of 1848, Clay announced that he would not be running for a second term. The Democrats jumped on the advantage to tear down the Whigs, and Clay in particular. They hoped that by sewing seeds of disunion, they could sweep the White House, much like they had when Martin Van Buren had won power. If the Whigs found themselves in a bind and had to fall back on Congress to win, they could pull an upset.

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Josiah Quincy Jr.

Thus began the inter-party politics. Men such as Daniel Webster, Clay’s Secretary of State, and Willie Person Mangum, his Vice President, felt as though they should be chosen for his successor. Each fled home to convince the local Whigs to support them. Webster found a cold reception in Boston, where many felt his ties to the Southern slaver Clay had caused undo harm to the party and to New England. Magnum was welcomed in the Carolinas, but in very few other places. Virginia Whigs turned a def ear to his calls for support. Many Whigs in the state, who had more recently been angered at the admittance of Wisconsin into the Union, now supported many of the Democratic measures inside the state.

In the Deep South the Whigs had been ousted, for the most part by Democrats. But in growing numbers, especially in states like Louisiana and Arkansas, Charles Magill Conrad was bringing in large numbers of supporters to his newly adopted American Party. With both Mangum and Webster out of favor, a new wave of Whigs rose to prominence. Calling themselves Whig-Federalists (A throwback to the Federalists of Alexander Hamilton), these young Whigs found a great deal of popularity in much of the country. In New York and New England, many Whigs, those not falling into the American Party camp, supported Josiah Quincy Jr. of Massachusetts. The one time mayor of Boston champion the old cause of Henry Clay, and chose Lewis Tappan of New York to run with him. Tappan brought in a great number of abolitionist supporters from New England, and was most famous for his workings with the Amistad case.

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William Alexander Graham

In the South it was William Alexander Graham who took over the reigns of the Whig party from the falling of Mangum. John Bell of Tennessee was selected to run with him. Whigs in Virginia and North Carolina attempted to use these two men as a compromise with the New Englanders, Whigs who were opposed to abolition. But a speech in January of 1849 destroyed any chance of that. William Lloyd Garrison, speaking in Albany, gave the now famous Albany Speech in which he galvanized the feelings of abolitionists across the country. Repeating his famous line from the liberator, he shouted out to a crowd of thousands:

William Lloyd Garrison said:
I will be as harsh as truth, and uncompromising as justice... I am in earnest, I will not equivocate, I will not excuse, I will not retreat a single inch, and I will be heard.

It was the last straw for most. No more would they accept politicians who supported the institution of slavery. When Graham and Bell arrived in Baltimore for the convention, they were cast out by the New Englanders. Forever more, the North-South divide was cast. The Whigs were the party of New England, and the Democrats ruled the south.

The Abolitionists had their champion, but a large number of Whigs were suddenly blackballed by their own party. From the Midwest into the South, a large number of former Whigs felt betrayed by the New York-New England dominated party. Men like Thomas Ewing and even the great commander Winfield Scott refused to lend public support to the Quincy-Tappan ticket. However, these men would not support the Democrats either, and so were the undecided middle ground, the men who had no allegiance either way. It would be these former Whigs who would decide the fate of the nation, although neither Quincy not the Democrats would believe it.
 
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I'm intrigued to find out how they'd decide the fate of the nation.

Setting up cliffhangers, always a good thing.
 

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The centre is breaking down fairly effectively there. Stormy times ahead.
 

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Fantastic read! I want to know what happens.

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Election of 1850
And the Rest
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The Whigs had split, all that remained was for the Democrats to unite and carry the election. Unfortunately for the Democrats, that wasn’t likely. First off, there was no sure fire candidate. President Mahlon Dickerson had grown old and had been defeated by Clay, and thus was no longer a strong choice for presidential candidate. Former governor of Tennessee James K. Polk, who had seemed a natural choice to take over the Democratic reigns, had died in 1849. Richard Mentor Johnson, Van Buren’s vice president, had vanished to old age, as had John C. Calhoun. Van Buren had been driven out of most Democratic circles, but was still popular with some minor groups within the Democratic Party.

With these old powers one the decline, other men had to step up. John Tyler was a popular candidate. However he was suspiciously quiet on the issue of slavery. He, along side Illinois Democrat Stephen Arnold Douglas, called for popular sovereignty. They believed that only states had the right to decide the legality of Slavery. While this was popular in the Western states, most Old Southerners distrusted this attitude, having spent 6 years with a Southern president who made no pro-slavery decisions. Other men to gain popularity were Lewis Cass, a New Hampshire democrat, William Orlando Butler, a Kentuckian, William R. King from Alabama as well as Kentucky born Jefferson Davis and Virginia governor William Smith.

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John Tyler

In the end the party went the Southern way. Tyler carried the nomination as President, and William Smith was chosen to be his running mate. Three Parties now faced off. The Whigs were split, with Northerners supporting Josiah Quincy Jr. and Lewis Tappan and Southern Whigs behind Graham and Bell. The Democrats ran with the Tyler-Smith ticket and the American Party was triumphed by the very young Charles Magill Conrad (he was only 46 in 1850); who made a move which secured him a great deal of popularity.

Although Washington Hunt had given a rebirth the party, he was a non-entity. He was a total dark horse with no political or public service experience. Conrad cast off Hunt, who was startled but did not strike back. In Allen’s place, Conrad convinced Colonel Martin Hienz, who had gained fame as a daring dragoon commander during the Mexican-American war, to run as his running mate. This sent the American Party through the roof. Heinz had the added benefit of being a Mid-Westerner, and a strong proponent of military action against the Mexicans. Hienz stood the dramatic and charismatic counter to Conrad’s slow and methodical campaign. Hienz was 57, but still seemed youthful and popular with many of the young men and poor workers throughout the growing industrial heart of the Union.

The American Party was, in most cases, below the notice of the major parties in the upper echelons of society. Quincy and Tappan found a cold welcome in the South, and so hoped to rely on Tyler and Graham to defeat each other in the Southern States. Pennsylvania would be Quincy’s key. If the Keystone state went Whig, Quincy would likely have the power to drive through the election and take the White House. Meanwhile Virginia became the heated battle ground for the South. The power of the Virginia Whigs was still significant, if no longer dominant. Tyler and Smith, both Virginians, had to pry the state away from the Whig politicians. Doing that would bring in the entire South under their swing, and if the border states went Democrat as well, the election would be Tyler’s.

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American Party- Charles M. Conrad and Martin Hienz- 135
Democratic Party- John Tyler and William Smith- 59
Whig Party- Josiah Quincy Jr. and Lewis Tappan- 71
Whig Party- William A. Graham and John Bell- 0

The inclusion of Martin Hienz carried the Mid-West. And when Louisiana voted in favor of its native son Charles Conrad, other New South states followed. The Democrats, by choosing to leave off both Kentucky politicians from their ticket (Davis and Butler) and go with a Virginian (Smith), Kentucky was lost to the Democrats. The Whigs couldn’t muster enough support in the state and it fell to the American Party, taking Tennessee with it. Men like Thomas Ewing of Ohio and John S. Barry of Michigan threw their lot in with the American Party as well, and the Green Flag of Ethan Allen flew from White House.
 
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Well now this is a little unexpected. A most radical departure.
 

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Wow.

Didn't expect that one. That's why I love Victoria.
 

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Estonianzulu said:
Anarcho Liberal: A powerful America and a subdued Mexico, hmmm... might be you will like the near future.
I wouldn't like it in real life but in games it always fun to see Mexico being developed and being turned prosperous :cool: . The thing that I hate is that the Mexican culture practically disapears. :(
Well anyways that was a wierd change in the elections. The America Party actually won :cool: ! Yay! I hope someday that America becomes Socialist but I doubt that will happen. :(
 

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I hope my copy of V:Revolutions comes soon. :(

Interesting developments, I wonder how that will impact on the ACW (If it happens).

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The New West controls the White House? I can just imagine how that will go over with Easterners...

This should be interesting!

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