The Finnish winter war

[Jestem]

When I play as Finland, I will give bases to Soviets on Finnic Islands to avoid from the winter war. Also I am thinking of an event for annexation Estonia peacefully so that I can form FinEst Republic. Actually This would be an amazing national focus for Finland: Finnic Union with Estonia. Kinda Czechoslovakia.

 

[GsusNSV]

I'm more curious as to what decisions other nations will get in regard to the winter war. Will a fascist/isolationist Britain get a decision to lend lease the Finns? What options will the Scandinavians have? Is there a way to avoid the winter war all together?

Finnland had an event to ask for Swedish aid. Sweden declined in the stream.

 

[Loke]

Well it should be an event for both Finland and Sweden - one to ask for aid and one to offer aid.

Offer 1/3 of the airforce

 

[Fulmen]

When I play as Finland, I will give bases to Soviets on Finnic Islands to avoid from the winter war.

Caving in to Russian demands would've handed over half of the Mannerheim-line, a land and naval base in southern Finland only 100+ km from Helsinki and Turku, use of railways from Leningrad to Hanko and total control of the Gulf of Finland. Finland would've been screwed and open to occupation, just like the Baltic states.

Also I am thinking of an event for annexation Estonia peacefully so that I can form FinEst Republic. Actually This would be an amazing national focus for Finland: Finnic Union with Estonia. Kinda Czechoslovakia.

Actually after Estonia had pretty much screwed herself over by caving in to Russian demands, Estonian president Konstantin Päts tried on 30.7.1940 to save the country by offering Finland a federal union with Estonia. At this point Estonia was a lost cause and Finland was forced to decline. He was actually arrested by Russian authorities later on that very same day.

Once Estonia was liberated (or occupied, however one views it) by the Germans the idea sprung up again. In Helsinki on 29.11.1941 Estonian Admiral Johan Pitka proposed to Finland's president Ryti a union between Finland and Estonia, which was again declined. Foreign minister Witting cited the fact that Finland would be unable to defend Estonia, and that "Estonians and Finns are by nature and state of mind so different, that they could not grow into one [people]."

Point being, even though a union between the countries is a nice thought, it's not something that would have happened in this time frame.

EDIT: That being said though, a national focus tree based around the idea of Greater Finland would be nice, but first PDOX needs to focus on creating a historically accurate or at least plausible Finland.

 

[Jestem]

Point being, even though a union between the countries is a nice thought, it's not something that would have happened in this time frame.

Thank you so much for your valuable information. I just meant that I could try to protect the relations between Finland and Soviets. Later I posted my message I searched this issue deeply and I totally agree with you.

An option that includes accepting union bw Finland and Estonia would be nice tho. Just before the annexation Estonia could offer an union to Finland and It could be up to Finnish AI.

Or after winning the winter war -it is possible, we just watched at world war wednesday - such an event could occur. There are many options that devs may add to game.

 

[Fulmen]

Thank you so much for your valuable information.

It's np, I quite enjoy sharing this stuff. Not many know about tiny Finland or its even tinier little brother Estonia.

Also I must apologize if I sound provocative in my posts, it's just my way of writing and I don't mean anything by it.

I just meant that I could try to protect the relations between Finland and Soviets. Later I posted my message I searched this issue deeply and I totally agree with you.

An option that includes accepting union bw Finland and Estonia would be nice tho. Just before the annexation Estonia could offer an union to Finland and It could be up to Finnish AI.

Or after winning the winter war -it is possible, we just watched at world war wednesday - such an event could occur. There are many options that devs may add to game.

We will see what the devs come up with. Since there are already many ahistorical choices for the majors in the game, then sure, why not for minors too.

 

[zivf22]

Nothing matters anyway because theylle be steamrolled along the entire front in a month in this game just because there arent any bottlenecks anymore like in HoI 3, and theres no way to defend a border of 40+ provinces. The game represents unpassable dense Woods with no roads as a Highway Network.