the fate of Yugoslavia just ended my game?

[eastcoastceojam]

That might easily be gamed then. You only join Axis to avoid bullying then leave the next day

Yeah, good point. But the players are always exploiting the AI logic anyway, so this still might be OK.

Perhaps the real fix for this sub-branch is to split it into two. One branch for Greece, and another for Yugoslavia.

It seems the intention for the Slovenia/Ljubljana bypass is to let Germany still be able to pressure Greece if Yugoslavia joins the Axis. But that will never happen with the missing bypass reason of "Is in faction with Yugoslavia" for the Fate of Yugoslavia focus, leaving Germany stuck there. At least until the unknowing player, like the OP and others, leaves the Axis, and then gets magically annexed by AI Germany.

 

[kettyo]

It seems the intention for the Slovenia/Ljubljana bypass is to let Germany still be able to pressure Greece if Yugoslavia joins the Axis. But that will never happen with the missing bypass reason of "Is in faction with Yugoslavia" for the Fate of Yugoslavia focus, leaving Germany stuck there

That's a fair point!

I'm convinced so i have added YUG = { is_puppet_of = ROOT } and is_in_faction_with = YUG to the bypass cases

 

[TheMeInTeam]

The most sensible solution is to give Yugo an event choice box where they either accept game over or tell Germany where they can stick their demands. Other nations already get things like that.

 

[kettyo]

The most sensible solution is to give Yugo an event choice box where they either accept game over or tell Germany where they can stick their demands. Other nations already get things like that.

It's already there just blocked when YUG is not in a faction and nobody guarantees her.

Quite an unfortunate way of scripting indeed.

Sould go to AI decision logic, not availability criteria.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

There's no valid reason to block the option for a country to say "we're not being annexed without a fight". HOI 4 doesn't need exceptions to that. AI can be told to answer it however you want, but unless they give up players should have to lose a fight before getting annexed, period.

 

[kettyo]

There's no valid reason to block the option for a country to say "we're not being annexed without a fight". HOI 4 doesn't need exceptions to that. AI can be told to answer it however you want, but unless they give up players should have to lose a fight before getting annexed, period.

Yes. The event logic was obviously written as AI control in mind so needs some little tweaks to work with human YUG well.

 

[Áurum]

hugeoslavia.

really? communist?

ive been flipping to facist basically instantly, abusing the civil war. trying to rush italy as fast as possible after austria.

I did it as communist, it was easy. The Soviet Union wins for you.

Turn communist, attack Romania to get border with USSR. Wait until Hungary and Slovakia join Axis, attack Germany.

 

[Supremeleaderpies]

I did it as communist, it was easy. The Soviet Union wins for you.

Turn communist, attack Romania to get border with USSR. Wait until Hungary and Slovakia join Axis, attack Germany.

im doing it in a historical ai as communist and its going well only issue was russia was able to snag enough war score in the peace treaty and snag albania. in my game russia was struggling, i practically won it my self by taking out italy alone, then getting big encirclements on germany.

also bulgaria got snagged by the uk.

not giving up, i left the Comintern and finished going down the western focus tree, joining the allies. before britain kicked me out i was able to garauntee on iran before russia declared war. ( at beginning of game i went western, put in a communist revolutionary to allow for the civil war to flip communist instantly getting rid of all debuffs) pulling in the allies to fight the comintern.

britain has now kicked me out and im taking russia out with the allies help. then i gotta war the allies lmao.

 

[Supremeleaderpies]

this is so messed up atm.

in the first peace conference (in the comintern at this point) concerning the war with germany they made there historical east germany puppet. while the allies took their historical west germany puppet.

at this point i leave the comintern, join the allies guarentee iran and pull the allies into the war against soviets. britain kicks me out of the allies. i take the soviets down taking most of russia in the war. peace conference comes and the allies reform poland, the german republic, and a few other states. (while still having west germany as a seperate country)

now having finished the war with the soviets i begin to justify war on bulgaria and turkey (the allies)

when all of a sudden i get the game over screen.

the german republic, that has 1 divisions, annexed me through the focus without war, yugoslavia, who has a standing army of 7 million.

lmfao. what is this





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[Áurum]

this is so messed up atm.

in the first peace conference (in the comintern at this point) concerning the war with germany they made there historical east germany puppet. while the allies took their historical west germany puppet.

at this point i leave the comintern, join the allies guarentee iran and pull the allies into the war against soviets. britain kicks me out of the allies. i take the soviets down taking most of russia in the war. peace conference comes and the allies reform poland, the german republic, and a few other states. (while still having west germany as a seperate country)

now having finished the war with the soviets i begin to justify war on bulgaria and turkey (the allies)

when all of a sudden i get the game over screen.

the german republic, that has 1 divisions, annexed me through the focus without war, yugoslavia, who has a standing army of 7 million.

lmfao. what is this





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Dividing Germany in East and West is almost mandatory so they can't do that.

Anyway, if the Allies got Bulgaria, you would have had a very bad time. I was lucky and only had to fight the USSR, which I did alone with tons and tons of units with Chinese manpower from a puppet.

 

[balmung60]

playing as yugo going for hugeoslavia. just killed italy and did the peace confrence taking all of mainland italy, puppeting them in north africa to annex and snag the navy and was prepping war for greece.

i leave the axis as i want to start to justify war against germany after i roll through greece.

all of a sudden i recieve a game over. and germany has everything i own.

apparently germany did fate of yugoslavia and that just instantly gives them everything i have?

there is nothing you can do as yugoslavia, when this event fires?

What you can do is never join the Axis. Joining the Axis bypasses Germany's Ljubljana Awards focuses where you could have told them to sod off and gone to war and lets them jump directly to The Fate of Yugoslavia, which wipes your country off the map.

 

[Supremeleaderpies]

Dividing Germany in East and West is almost mandatory so they can't do that.

Anyway, if the Allies got Bulgaria, you would have had a very bad time. I was lucky and only had to fight the USSR, which I did alone with tons and tons of units with Chinese manpower from a puppet.

not really. taking the allies out wouldve been easy af. The ai is not the problem here.

why did you need china? im guessing just for the manpower? i was able to take out russia primarily on my own without needing any extra manpower. tbh the war with russia was easy af.
the only war that was dodgy was the first war against the axis, but that was partially due to how early i started it.

What you can do is never join the Axis. Joining the Axis bypasses Germany's Ljubljana Awards focuses where you could have told them to sod off and gone to war and lets them jump directly to The Fate of Yugoslavia, which wipes your country off the map.

please read all of the forum. that was the first game i did. this second game i stayed away from the axis entirely, but because i joined the allies at one point when they created the german republic i guess/am assuming that this allowed the german republic ai to bypass, but i have no real idea, and annex all of my territory for free while i have 0 say.

 

[Áurum]

not really. taking the allies out wouldve been easy af. The ai is not the problem here.

why did you need china? im guessing just for the manpower? i was able to take out russia primarily on my own without needing any extra manpower. tbh the war with russia was easy af.
the only war that was dodgy was the first war against the axis, but that was partially due to how early i started it.



please read all of the forum. that was the first game i did. this second game i stayed away from the axis entirely, but because i joined the allies at one point when they created the german republic i guess/am assuming that this allowed the german republic ai to bypass, but i have no real idea, and annex all of my territory for free while i have 0 say.

How can you defeat the USA as Yugoslavia?

 

[Supremeleaderpies]

How can you defeat the USA as Yugoslavia?

you dont need to take out the usa for the achieve

but if i had to take usa, just sub spam and land in south america and push my way up through mexico.
or go for landing in canada. either works pretty well. especially when they are still at war with japan

 

[Magnificent Genius]

Here's a post-LAR guide for Huge-o-slavia that I think is pretty good. Like others said above, the most popular route for this achievement is as a Communist, since you can remove all those nasty national spirits much faster.

I love his guides because they are practically foolproof and easy to follow. I have had a few instances where there were some things that went wrong, but it was all rng type stuff.

EDIT: One problem with that particular guide though is that even though it is the same version as mine, he is getting cheaper and faster justifications than I am(48 vs 63 PP and 240 vs 315 days on Austria) and the UK keeps guaranteeing Greece.

 

[Áurum]

you dont need to take out the usa for the achieve

but if i had to take usa, just sub spam and land in south america and push my way up through mexico.
or go for landing in canada. either works pretty well. especially when they are still at war with japan

Don't you need to annex the land and thus, completely defeat the Allies to get the peace conference?

 

[Supremeleaderpies]

Don't you need to annex the land and thus, completely defeat the Allies to get the peace conference?

the wiki says

Huge-oslavia

Possible if

• Start date is January 1, 1936.
• Playing in ironman mode.
• All game rules allow achievements.
• Regular or higher difficulty.
• Not using custom difficulty.

Playing as Yugoslavia
Achieved if
Every state in the world is either:

• Controlled by Our Nation
• Is nota core of the below nations:
  • Albania
  • Austria
  • Bulgaria
  • Hungary
  • Italy
  • Romania
  • Greece(except Istanbul (341) )

now that im looking at this i didnt realise there was an exception for istanbul. guess i didnt need to war turkey that game

but even so, if it need to be annexed taking out the allies isnt hard. Imo its just a chore, especially later in the game.

 

[Áurum]

the wiki says

Huge-oslavia

Possible if

• Start date is January 1, 1936.
• Playing in ironman mode.
• All game rules allow achievements.
• Regular or higher difficulty.
• Not using custom difficulty.

Playing as Yugoslavia
Achieved if
Every state in the world is either:

• Controlled by Our Nation
• Is nota core of the below nations:
  • Albania
  • Austria
  • Bulgaria
  • Hungary
  • Italy
  • Romania
  • Greece(except Istanbul (341) )

now that im looking at this i didnt realise there was an exception for istanbul. guess i didnt need to war turkey that game

but even so, if it need to be annexed taking out the allies isnt hard. Imo its just a chore, especially later in the game.

Oh, I didn't know. I did it with owning all the states.

 

[eastcoastceojam]

This thread inspired me to take another run at the Huge-o-slavia achievement. I got off to a good start and grabbed Austria, and now I'm working on the double whammy of taking on Greece and Romania at the same time.

I was surprised to see that the achievement button isn't recognizing my control over Austria. Is this just a display bug with this particular achievement? Or did I actually do something wrong by annexing Austria at a peace conference, instead of merely occupying it during wartime?

I rolled back to patch 1.7.1 for another save I'm working on, but this particular achievement has been around since 1.4, so I wouldn't think that would matter.

 

[kettyo]

I was surprised to see that the achievement button isn't recognizing my control over Austria. Is this just a display bug with this particular achievement? Or did I actually do something wrong by annexing Austria at a peace conference, instead of merely occupying it during wartime?

Austria has a core in Southern Tirol in Italy too.