This seems a lot less gamey as well as being very effective. Wouldn't the HRE nations all turn down the reforms though, due to a religion change?
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This seems a lot less gamey as well as being very effective. Wouldn't the HRE nations all turn down the reforms though, due to a religion change?
I've just tried doing this and getting the Golden Horde to concede defeat doesn't give me any IA.
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Yes.I've just tried doing this and getting the Golden Horde to concede defeat doesn't give me any IA.
Damn, so what is now the best way to get regular doses of IA? I haven't got many vassals left to release, I never get called to war because nobody ever attacks the HRE members, and I still have 3 reforms left to pass before forming the HRE! Am I really going to have to wait until protestantism? I was hoping to get the HRE formed before that.
Well, I ended up having to wait until about 1500, when protestantism (and later the reformation) kicked in. Enforcing religious unity with a bunch of states at 10 IA each time was quite straightforward once I'd bribed them enough to like me. Here's a fun screenshot showing everyone being my vassal (except Austria, who rebelled - they will be annexed by my HRE once it forms anyway ) just after the penultimate reform:
And here's the HRE post-formation (I gobbled up a load of Golden Horde territory as Burgandy to the east before forming it):
I'm not quite sure how the game figures out what provinces we get cores on, though. We still have cores on the provinces we had as Burgandy, but we get a few more on some provinces like Chur and Nice, though on most provinces we will have to wait 50 years. Anyone know why we get those few extra cores?
) just after the penultimate reform:
And here's the HRE post-formation (I gobbled up a load of Golden Horde territory as Burgandy to the east before forming it):
I'm not quite sure how the game figures out what provinces we get cores on, though. We still have cores on the provinces we had as Burgandy, but we get a few more on some provinces like Chur and Nice, though on most provinces we will have to wait 50 years. Anyone know why we get those few extra cores?
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Except that you can't convert to Orthodox. None of my provinces are Orthodox either.
That's a gamble: if you are Orthodox and your monarch dies before you have enforced unity on enough electors, you have zero chance of ever getting the Imperial title back again.
...except Austria, who rebelled - they will be annexed by my HRE once it forms anyway
You could probably have prevented this if you had made your relations with Austria over 150 and towards 200. When I formed the HRE as Burgundy, I had already formed France and was then gradually increasing my relations with all the states. It took a long time and a lot of magistrates but it was well worth it. All of the members agreed, no rebellion and no war
Yes, because you were Burgundy, you got the cores on the same French group as Burgundy belongs to but not the German cores. I believe I am right in saying that if you had been playing someone like Austria then you would have got the German cores but not the French ones.
EDIT - forgot to say, I would never bother with anything like trying to convert to Orthodox - I just wait for the reformation. As I think someone else mentioned forming the HRE makes it a rather tedious game after that so I wouldn't really be in any hurry tbh
Not really worth it. I'm trying to get as much land as possible in this game so I want to form the HRE as soon as possible. Spending time getting good relations with all the states would slow me down a lot. I only have to annex Austria as it is (I already did, now, thanks to Unum Sanctum and them being Protestant) and I get the HRE formed nice and quickly.You could probably have prevented this if you had made your relations with Austria over 150 and towards 200. When I formed the HRE as Burgundy, I had already formed France and was then gradually increasing my relations with all the states. It took a long time and a lot of magistrates but it was well worth it. All of the members agreed, no rebellion and no war
Nope, I just saw in another thread that you get cores on your territory and any neighbouring countries' provinces. Doesn't make much sense to me but that's the rule. So I got cores on places like Savoy, Switzerland, and Bohemia, because I had provinces that bordered them!
Ok, didn't know that, have learned something new then. Sounds illogical though frankly!
Converting between Orthodox and Catholic and force-converting other people is by far the fastest method of forming the HRE.