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This is my second AAR, and my first EU III AAR. While my other AAR is more drab and like a text I will try to format this one like a story. Unfortunately about a year into the game I realized someone had put it on Easy and I am stuck like that. There is one small mod to this game and that is all tech levels are 1.0 except Latin which is at 2.0. I had been playing as the Inca's and forgot to change it, if I can change it for this file I will just let me know. I am playing collector's edition version 1.3 and because of network problems I can not promise many screen shots but I will give as many as I can.
 
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Part One: The Fall of France

Compiègne, Paris, Ill-de-France, France

At the end of June 1453 Charles VII, King of France, sat on his throne in his palace just outside of Paris the capital of France. The fourth stage of what was being called the Hundred Years War with England had been going on for twenty three years now, and Charles did not want this to be his legacy. He did not want to be another French King in the Hundred Years War. France had almost totally knocked England out of the Continent but King Henry, while being vastly outnumbered, kept holding his own against the French, even France's finest general could not destroy the English. At this time a messenger came in with a message from none other then King Henry. Charles dismissed the messenger and read the message. It seemed that Henry was just as sick of this war as Charles was and Henry was offering a white peace. Charles thought about this for awhile, he could accept and end the war then go on to do great things but his people would be mad. After a few hours of thinking it over he sent a message to King Henry, a message that would forever change France for the worse.

King Charles VII said:
Dear Henry VII, King of England,
This war has gone on far to long, as you well know. I recently received your message offering for a peace with no loser and both side winners. I accept in hopes that our countries can finally be at peace for a long time. May our reigns be peaceful and prosperous.

That was on the 25th of June, by the 28th the news was known all over the country. Charles would not be remembered as a French King during the Hundred Years War, and he started to realize this on the 28th. It was a disastrous day, the 28th of June 1453. Louis I, a Norman noble, declared that he was the King of Normandy taking the regions of Normandie, Maine, and Caux. At that same time Louis declared that Normandy was free from French influence and would not be a vassal of France or any other country. Emboldened by this show of bravado Renè I, King of Provence, Charles I, King of Bourbonnais, and Jean I, King of Orleans, all declare that they are no longer under the influence of France and are independent nations. Louis I forever altered France by looking out for his people, refusing to let them bow a knee to a man with no backbone like Charles VII. Renè, Charles I, and Jean I were just opportunists that saw France sinking and a way to forge their own way in the world.



Caen, Normandie, Normandy

Two weeks and four days later, the 16th of June 1453, King Louis I holds court for the first time. Not that there is much to hold court for. He has no army, no navy, no ducats in the treasury, no advisers, just three regions of northern France. However there are four diplomats from foreign countries. King Friedrich I of the Palatinate sent one, King Heinrich of Brunswick sent another, a third was from King Kazimierz IV of Poland, while the last one came from King Boleslaw IV of Mazovia. All four of them came with offers for an alliance between their country and Normandy. The one from Mazovia was sent away almost immediately by Louis. First off Mazovia was far away and second it was a very small country that was almost totally surrounded by large countries, it was itching to be taken over by anyone and Louis was not going to let his new country go down like that. The diplomat from Brunswick was sent off at about the same time, Brunswick was about the same size as Mazovia and while not smugged between several large countries wars were starting to break out in northern Germany and again Louis did not want to get involved. The Palatinate and Polish diplomats were not sent away however, Louis signed alliances with both of the countries and even sent two of his nieces with the diplomats so they could marry into the royal family.



Compiègne, Paris, Ill-de-France, France

September 2nd was the day France finished its fall from glory. It would survive the day but as a much smaller country with several vassals that did not pay much attention to it. François I took control of the Champagne and Othe regions calling it Champagne, Henri VI took Périgod, Limousin, and Rouergue calling it Guyenne. He pressured Eugène Maurice I into taking Toulouse and Languedoc and naming it Toulouse, Eugène quickly agreed to it. Humbert III took this time to create a nation called Dauphine from the region of Dauphinè. As Charles watched helpless to do anything he was named Charles the Destroyer of France, people talked about how ending the war did more bad then the war ever did.

France is on its knees but it still has land of its own and several vassals still. France could come back but what of the independent nations formed from its former lands? What will England do? Can Charles reverse this?
 
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Things appear to be falling apart for France, which is good for Normandy. Very interesting start, sir.

One little niggle - Versailles wouldn't be a palace in France until the 17th century. ;)

Looking forward to where you go with this. Normandy must be fun to play. Good luck.
 
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coz1 said:
Things appear to be falling apart for France, which is good for Normandy. Very interesting start, sir.

One little niggle - Versailles wouldn't be a palace in France until the 17th century. ;)

Looking forward to where you go with this. Normandy must be fun to play. Good luck.
I didn't think so but my knowledge about French palaces and the times is quite lacking. Might you suggest a replacement?
Also Normandy is very fun to play, it does get tedious switching back and forth between countries. I am triggering a lot of the failure of France and you will hear a lot more about the nations of southern France.
 

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Sematary said:
I didn't think so but my knowledge about French palaces and the times is quite lacking. Might you suggest a replacement?
Also Normandy is very fun to play, it does get tedious switching back and forth between countries. I am triggering a lot of the failure of France and you will hear a lot more about the nations of southern France.
I admit, my knowledge of palaces is not great either, but I believe Fontainbleau might work (the only other one I really know is Chinon which was where the Dauphin held court during the Joan of Arc period.) Perhaps some others with more knowledge can help. Or try googling palaces in France.
 

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Charles VII begins to work on the old palace of kings at Compiègne in 1451; it has been under his control for some time at that point, but after the battles and sieges of the Hundred Years War it was necessary to rebuild it partially. Still, Compiègne is the only royal palace at the time which is located in the King's demesne.

The premise is interesting; a splintered France is full of minors ripe for the taking, and I don't doubt Louis I will start to work towards this end.

And who knows, form France again after seizing all of its lands for himself? :)
 
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Lordban said:
Charles VII begins to work on the old palace of kings at Compiègne in 1451; it has been under his control for some time at that point, but after the battles and sieges of the Hundred Years War it was necessary to rebuild it partially. Still, Compiègne is the only royal palace at the time which is located in the King's demesne.

The premise is interesting; a splintered France is full of minors ripe for the taking, and I don't doubt Louis I will start to work towards this end.

And who knows, form France again after seizing all of its lands for himself? :)
Thank you Lordban, I will change that at once. As for Louis I, he is more worried about making a country large enough that people don't mess with him. With a splintered France I figured what better way to make a totally ahistorical story that could have been possible? Also with using a country that never existed in that state I have complete freedom in what to do or not do.
 
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Part Two: The French Nations Take Their First Steps

Caen, Normandie, Normandy

Noon on September 23, Louis was standing at a window looking over the view. His country was a few months old and still struggling, but it was slowly starting to take form. He still had no advisers, the economy of Normandy could not support such excess. The way he had the taxes set up he would get some every month but then each city would send him a large chunk of money at the end of the year, as far as he knew that was the standard set up for the rest of France if not the world. He had a lot to think over, the day before he had gotten a note saying that his ally, Poland, had started a war with the Teutonic Order. He regretfully had to decline aide, which broke off the alliance. Normandy still had no military and his people would not be happy with him starting a war this early in their life. That war would have just left him worse off if not the leader of a forgotten and nonexistent country. It was a unfortunate event and Poland just didn't see it from his side. They say it as him abandoning them in their time of need. Ah well, Poland was far from France and he still had the Palatinate on his side.



France

The months slowly passed for France, everything was pretty much quiet. Each leader was busy planning for the future and the conflicts that they all knew would happen. Louis I planned to create a Norman army, Charles VII brooded in Compiègne, Pierre II sat in his palace near Nantes in Brittany watching passively for now, Jean I set out to be well known and well liked all over Orleans, Charles I knew his country of Bourbonnais was stuck between a rock and a hard place, Bertrand II looked from Auvergne down at Avignon wanting to bring back under French sway, Humbert III stayed in Grenoble preferring to rule Dauphine from a place of safety, Renè I looked to reunite the two regions under his command but knew it would take a large war to do that, Henri VI was determined that under him Guyenne would create a hegemony over southern France, Eugène Maurice I was quite fine with ruling what he had and did not look outside of his boarders, Jean V looked to the region North of him hating the fact that it was owned by England, Gaston IV knew he was in a hard place being the leader of Foix and he knew he had to expand or die, François I knew he had to do something or Burgundy would take him over at the first possible moment.



Caen, Normandie, Normandy

Louis was pissed, livid, every word for anger in any language would describe what he was. Charles VII had just sent him a letter saying how fun his little insurrection had been but now it was time to go back to being what he was, a servant to the French crown and if he wanted his head to stay on his neck he would end this now. The letter went on to say that France did not and would not recognize his country and would give him one week to surrender or France would treat this as a rebellion. What gall that man had, first he destroys France and then he insults Louis? This event would be a great casus belli and no one would think worse of him if he had declared war that day. But France had a military and Normandy did not. He didn't have the money to raise a military yet but soon. Louis would never forget this and if he had to he would pass this on to his son who would pass it on until Ill-de-France was a minor region in Normandy. It was mid October about two months before he got the extra money from his cities.



Bergerac, Périgod, Guyenne

Henri VI, singlehandedly, destabilized all of southern France on November 25. He declared Guyenne totally independent of France and pressured all of France's other vassals to do the same. Slowly they all followed suit except for François I of Champagne. François I knew that if he wanted to survive he had to be a vassal of France and even pretend to be Charles VII's loyal servant and ally. After Henri declared this mass independent movement on the 25th he said that he was the protector of all of southern France, Dauphine, Provence, Toulouse, Armagnae, Foix, and Auvergne could always come to him if they needed help.



Pau, Foix

Gaston IV was very happy. The entire region was unsure of itself, everyone was unsure of themselves and no one was on guard. This was his perfect God sent chance to expand Foix. On November 26th Foix declared war on Armagnae and Gaston IV was leading his army of 1,000 men against his enemy. Although the Armagnae army was twice the size of his army he was sure that he would be able to catch them off guard.




Bergerac, Périgod, Guyenne

Henri heard the news of the war and smiled. This was his first chance to prove that he was the true protector of southern France. That same day, he declared war on Foix and allied himself with Armagnae. The date was 27 November 1453.



Caen, Normandie, Normandy

New Years 1454 was a great day. Normandy was doing wonderful all things considering and Caen saw the biggest New Year's celebration in all of France. Louis looked at his happy subjects in their revelry below him, the sight made him smile before going back to his glass of wine. He was going to celebrate by using the ducats that were just placed in his treasury the night before and send five merchants to the market in Paris. Paris was not a large market but it was large enough and with merchants working in large markets he could tax their business.

A few weeks later he learned that four of the merchants were successful, while the fifth and one he would later send in March were never heard from again. He sent a seventh one in May who soon joined the four others as part of the merchant elite in Paris. All told 1454 was a very happy very quiet year.



Pau, Foix

Gaston IV look down at the paper in front of him. It called for the immediate and total annexation of his country by Armagnae. What had gone wrong? Armagnae had not been caught off guard at all. They had destroyed his army and then soon after beat him again when he tried to defend his single region. He had been forced to spend most of 1454 in exile in Aragon as the siege of Pau continued. Now it was November 20th almost exactly a year after he started it. On the other side of this table was Jean V and Henri VI watching him. He had no other choice as he signed the paper and Foix ceased to exist.
 
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rcduggan said:
this looks really cool. good luck!

Thank you RC. I just posting how great I think your Teutonic AAR is.


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France, HRE style :p

Pretty much. As they say about the HRE it was not holy, or Roman and I always like to add the fact that it was a confederacy rather then a empire. But yeah France is looking very much like the HRE. I just hope Louis I lives to see Normandy big enough to not have to always worry about being destroyed.
 

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While Louis sits calmly in the north, the south is beating the holy hell out of each other. Might be a good time to jump on a few of the spent forces down there when it nears the end.
 
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While Louis sits calmly in the north, the south is beating the holy hell out of each other. Might be a good time to jump on a few of the spent forces down there when it nears the end.

Louis will spend all of 1454 and a chunk of 1455 with no military. The real surprise comes later when Henri VI gets in over his head and then is typical AI stupid. I want to try and get it so its a Norman controlled northern France against a Guyennian controlled southern France but I am not so sure thats going to work out.
 
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I figured out a way to get around the network issues so here are some screen shots.

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France in 1453

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Europe in 1453
 

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Ah. I had forgotten you and a number of others are sharing borders with the Burgundians. There might be some objectors to the setting up of a Normandy vs. Guyenne comfrontation :)
 

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My that is a very interesting map. As was stated above - the HRE in France indeed. I imagine it will be quite a lot of fun to restore order amongst all that. :cool:
 
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Part Three: The First Wars

Caen, Normandie, Normandy

New Years 1455 was very similar to the celebration the year before for the people but not for Louis. He started 1455 by raising one regiment of men from every region under his command, a total of 3,000 troops. He also sent one merchant to the much richer markets of Antwerpen. For a short time the merchant was successful but when a new merchant from Cleaves moved in his business quickly sunk and it is rumored that he moved to Brunswick soon after.



Bergerac, Périgod, Guyenne

Henri VI spent New Years making plans. Toulouse had been engaged in several boarder conflicts with Aragon and Eugène Maurice I had always been a pushover. Using his promise to the people of southern France as a casus belli Henri declared war on Toulouse and he lead the first army into Toulouse. The war ended after a few months with a white peace. The Toulousian Army was just too strong for his army.



Nantes, Vedèe, Brittany

Pierre II sat on his throne in early March 1455. The last two years had been very interesting, the Hundred Years War ended but France fell apart. So far he had done nothing but watch and bide his time. But now, on the 13th of March he was declaring war on Normandy. The war was extremely unpopular, in both the army and the populace. His cavalry and his general set down their arms and left in protest. All of the nobles were quickly beheaded and their heads put on pikes with the non noblemen being hanged their bodies and heads set on display as Pierre II lead the army.



Caen, Normandie, Normandy

Louis I got the news and was pissed. His army now complete near Caen started marching out to meet the Britton army before it crossed the boarder.



Armor, Brittany

Pierre was confused. Here he was almost to the Norman province of Maine with his three thousand troops and a Norman army coming from the northeast that was three thousand men strong. The footmen lined up across the plain from each other and the two generals went to meet each other. The Norman general was a man who was just recruited along the way, his name was Henri d'Imbleval. Pierre looked at this upstart and Henri looked back passively. Pierre stated his demands simply enough, "Leave here and go back to Caen and tell your so called King that Brittany demands total surrender and annexation."
Henri had the nerve to laugh in this King's face. "Really now? My demands are that you leave back to your country, declare a white peace and never bother Normandy again." Pierre's reply was simple, he turned his horse around and rode back to his battle lines. Henri quickly went back to his to order the advance. It was the 27th of March and the weather was wonderful. The armies clashed but the battle was indecisive as the sun went down and the armies prepared for a long battle. And long the battle was, It finally ended the 26th of April with a Britton victory. As the Normans retreated they left 285 dead and about 1,000 more were wounded. 1,900 of the Britton Army continued to Maine while 812 stayed behind. Brittany lost 288 men in that battle.



Normandie, Normandy

The first army came back to Normandie in the first week of May and they were met by Louis. "Good fighting men, you held off the entire Britton fighting force for almost a month and out of 3,000 men 2,175 of you came home alive. Now I need you to start digging in for the Britton attack here. They have already laid siege to the garrison in Maine but one of their regiments stayed behind to regroup and is on its way here." The men knew they were fighting on home soil and they could not let the Brittons get to Caen. After this short speech Louis went to Henri. "It was a good fight you gave them. I heard about Pierre's demands. I am no longer going to accept a white peace, make his country bleed."
One month to the day after the war started the Britton army attacked the first army. This army had no general leading it and it was in full rout by the end of the day with 60 dead Brittons while the Normans lost no one. After this victory Norman moral was heightened and the army marched to Maine.

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Norman victory



Maine, Normandy

Pierre was furious. Not only did his army in Normandie lose they all deserted and so did one more unit of his army in Maine. This war was seen as very unpopular and the Normans were proving to be as good if not better then each Britton troop. As if to accent his problems the Maine garrison was holding out against him and showed no signs of surrendering any time soon. Now it was mid July and the Normans were on the horizon. He knew they had heard of his desertion problem and were here for a decisive victory. There was a battle alright. July 16-18 it raged on before a Norman victory. It was not however a decisive victory, 70 dead Normans and 72 dead Brittons.



Armor, Brittany

Henri did however, follow Pierre to Armor to fight the second battle there. The battle was August 14-25 with 19 dead Normans and 31 dead Brittons, the death toll proved it a slightly more decisive victory. Just as the Normans were settling in for the long siege Armor revolted from Norman control. The first army marched to Finistère and laid siege there.



Nantes, Vedèe, Brittany

Pierre was greatful when he learned the news of the revolt. He sent them a letter to congratulate them and ordered them to march to Morbihan where they would hook up with the newly recreated Britton army. Their reply was that they were revolting from him and the Normans just happened to be there.