The Eutopian Military Thinktank

[HJ Tulp]

In New Lancaster City a conference room has been bought on the name of Lt. Commander Henry Jan Tulp.

In the Conference room people from across the nation with Military experience and knowledge debate on the organisation of the Eutopian Military and which equipement it should buy. The Thinktank will give the MIDS advice when it has advice.


First Member and Spokesmen:
Henry Jan Tulp

 

[Craig Ashley]

I'd like to join this enterprise.

The wise man has a multitude of councilors.

 

[HJ Tulp]

Sorry, haven't got used to the new Constitution. Pending on CRO approval this organisation is on hold.

 

[Sterkarm]

As it has been approved, I would like to join.

 

[unmerged(24047)]

I apply, as already sais in another thread.

 

[Sterkarm]

"By the way, Commander Tulp, just to let you know, that if I am elected as President, I think we could have about Ð90-100 BILLION dollars surplus to spend, much of it on the military (added onto the 33 Billion that the military already recieves). Of course we would not spend ALL of the money on the military, but certainly the military would be the number one priority for that surplus spending.

Therefore, we should review which candidates would be able to provide a certain amount of military spending and plan accordingly."

 

[unmerged(27050)]

"I would like to join as well. This is exactly what we will need to begin the reconstruction of the military."

 

[Petrarca]

"Commander Tulp, I think I could best do service to the nation by joining your braintrust."

 

[The_Hawk]

"As the UP's candidate for MDIS, it seems only appropriate that I apply here as well, so I can be involved in the discussions from the very beginning.

However, let me say that Mr. Recyznski's suggestion, as slanted as it is, is also terrible policy. We've seen what can happen if money is thrown at the military problem -- quite simply, nothing. Nothing but the embezzlement of billions of dollars of funds by a treacherous ex-Lieutenant-General. The Eutopian military can operate affordably and effectively, but it takes more than bales of raw cash to do so -- it takes good ideas and well-developed plans. That's something I hope this thinktank will be producing in abundance."

 

[Petrarca]

"Commander, excuse my presumption but I was under the impression that this was a independent and private institution. I don't see any reason for a reasoned debate on the nature of the military to become something contaminated by partisan politics; nor do I think that it should become some sort of quasi-governmental wing that the MDIS or anyone aspiring to his position should join and influence. Maybe if some of the people here come up with ideas instead of turning this place into a campaign rally or a political throwdown, the think tank would work better."

 

[The_Hawk]

"My apologies, Mr. Rathburne. I had no intention of turning this debate political, and my response to Mr. Recyznski was simply that; a response to a policy he advocated. Of course, I can't say that we don't differ on that one, and that our differences wouldn't affect our policies if one or the other of us were in office.

"But surely you recognize the value of having involvement by those who would be MDIS from the very beginning? Otherwise, the interaction between an organization such as this one and the government would be entirely one-sided."

 

[HJ Tulp]

Allright I will make it clear, everyone applying for membership thus far has been accepted but I wish to remind Per Tilly and Per Recyznski that we are non-partisan so please don't advertise your party or your party politics in the future.

 

[Petrarca]

"I defer to the Commander's judgment here on involving politics. After all, it's his boat- er, group. But Mr. Tilly, while you're off anointing yourself I'm going to note that the independence of the Commander's institution ought to be preserved."

 

[Amric]

If you all don't mind a non military person making an observation? I think Hawkton will be a good member from the Unity Party, but that isn't the observation.

I fully endorse the idea of this organization as independent of the government. It will be important for it to be so to make unbiased recommendations to whomever becomse the MDIS or the President.

No politicking from me here, gentlemen. Just my .02 ducats worth.

 

[Sterkarm]

"Mr. Tilly, I am saying we would have about 90 billion extra Ð to spend on anything from disaster relief to debt repayment. However, as the budget projection states that roughly 34 billion Ð would be needed to bring the military up to grade, I am stating that we will certainly have enough money for that. I would never consider putting Ð90 billion into the military at once, as I agree the effect might very well be a waste of money."

 

[The_Hawk]

"I'm confident that no matter who winds up in government come election time, they're going to find the money to revamp our military. It's been an issue since I've been back on the island, and things are only getting worse.

"It's definitely time something get done, and everyone seems to recognize that; the question is, what should it be?"

 

[unmerged(27050)]

"I am in favor of purchasing new designs and hiring engineers to make the Eutopian war machine self-sufficient. However, it will be necesarry to buy some new equipment until we are ready to make our own."

 

[Petrarca]

I thnk that the idea of Eutopia having completely indigenous materiel is a fallacious one. The most glaring example of why this is true would be our lack of major domestic aviation manufacturing.

We're going to have to buy more than just "some" new equipment. I've heard that our entire navy is now gone, even though the TO&E says we should have one Perry-class and four Knoxes in New Lancaster City. I think that a new navy should have a small group of destroyers at its core, with the rest of the fleet as frigates and fast attack craft. The Streetfighter concept looks like a perfect one to address many of our maritime needs.

Assuming the politicians get us markets to spend the money they promised, I think aircraft is the next big issue. American would be best, but given the situation it makes sense to look elsewhere. Any thoughts?

 

[unmerged(27050)]

It was suggested to purchase a new Japanese design...

 

[Petrarca]

That "new Japanese design" is an updated F-16. I doubt that the Americans would permit technology they are sharing with the Japanese to be sold to us. If they are, then that's great, but I would buy the American modernization of the -16 instead because the parts are more widespread. Also, the idea of "tweaking" it to extend service life is laughable, because America and Japan, the two nations with the most advanced avionics in the world, have already modernized it.