I disagree that they keep releasing broken products, their products over the years are average, some were poorly received, some were well received. some of the poorly received were fixed over time, some weren't. Each and every player can make a decision for themselves whether to buy their latest product. But the point of the forums is not to attack the devs for releasing a poor product, it's to engage with them on how to improve the product. And there's no need to be getting angry. Do you write angry letters to Samsung engineers when your tv doesn't work?
I think when people bought products from a company and invest their trust into them to a certain degree have been buying their products for a long time and even suggested their games to their friends, being slightly part of the success of a company they do feel entitled to what went wrong. They want to know cause they still care about the company. As many have pointed out they arent angry to hate, they are angry cause they know paradox can do better. While you state some games were utterly broken, none of the pdx games were outright unplayable. Also imperator rome has a good reputation, sadly it doesnt get any developers assigned to it for content in 2021. But you dont see people lashing out in their reorganisation post, people are mostly saddened as they started to like the game but understand the reasoning as it was clearly told to them what the plans are. Transparency is super important in a more and more connected world and it does build brand trust which is important for a company.
Have you actually looked in this forum? People are constantly pointing out bugs and offering suggestions on how to improve the game and begging paradox to just address this.
Funny. I actually didn't pick up Imperator at first because roman history doesn't interest me. Later, I thought it might be worth the investment after seeing a youtube clip. I looked into some guides and found that instead of looking like a game centered around the roman empire, it instead seemed like "Crusader Kings:Ancient Rome" as you put it, as was turned off from ever trying it. Even now I hear its gotten pretty good but have never bothered to look again because it seems too crusader kingsy for me. I already have that. Maybe its not like that, I just find it funny that your claim of what people wanted from it is what I saw and made me turn from it.
I think you didn't participate in imperator forums enough to see how much CK role players were disgusted with the "bland map-painter" that was Imperator. Basically they were expecting to assasinate and incest their way to becoming a consul as Caesar and the game didn't give them that. Even when Johan tried to explain to them that it was based on EU:Rome so it was a game in the tradition of EU games, they kept attacking him for mana and stuff like that.
switching from one anonymous account to another="rather cowardly"? why are you questioning my motives instead of engaging my arguments?
Past releases didn't draw as much flaming as this one because while past releases had their issues, none of them were as blatantly unfinished/broken as this one.
No but I might leave a bad review and/or if I was spending time on some "Samsung forum" I might make a post to complain and I wouldn't expect people to call that review bombing / toxicity. (Plus if the TV doesn't work I have more than just a few hours to return it but that's a different discussion.
)Yes, but your review/post will be answered by some customer relations flunky, not Samsung's head of TV engineering. And that's the point I'm making. No one likes to be criticized. It's not in the devs' jobs description to wade through players' complaints on the forum. So if we want to maintain this engagement, the community has to adjust its entitled behavior. Telling Johan that he is "from some south Stockholm sh**hole and .... the light and the space of Spain really put the zap on his head." (a quote from this forum) will not make any dev want to engage here.No but I might leave a bad review and/or if I was spending time on some "Samsung forum" I might make a post to complain and I wouldn't expect people to call that review bombing / toxicity. (Plus if the TV doesn't work I have more than just a few hours to return it but that's a different discussion.
Basically you seem to think that people don't have a right to complain about their bad experience with a product. Certainly there is a limit to what you can say when you're posting your criticism but I strongly disagree with the idea that just because they've released bad or broken DLC / Games in the past that means you can't criticize any bad or broken DLC / Game in the future.
Also this notion that just because "back in ye olden days" you had to deal with bad games on a CD that means that we have to do things like that forever makes no sense.
By that logic we shouldn't try to find new medicine to cure old diseases either right? "Back in my day people used to die from this disease so you should die from it too even though we have a cure now."
Actually it is their job, especially when stuff goes wrong, That is why you have an PR department!
No it's not the devs job, it's the PR department's job. If you want to engage with the devs, you need to make sure the forums do not become a hostile environment. Otherwise, you'll just get corporate PR people and community managers to engage on the forum.
) has joined this forum TODAY and has only made posts in this one thread. I mean, seriously, what made you join this forum? I can understand people who've been playing the game for years quietly without being on this forum, and now, that they experience severe crashes and corrupted save files, join the forum to voice their discontent. But why did you join this forum?
