The End Is Not Yet: MP 900-year game

[DanomitePrime]

The weird totals are because the Vicky ledger can't deal with the new ship types that were added in Revolutions. Which indicates that Indonesia has 400 modern ships, probably mainly carriers and cruisers. You can see why we went for the pre-emptive strike.

I had 100 ships in Que before you attacked, we both sunk about that many of each others, fearing a prolonged war lasting till conversion, Indonesia underwent the largest naval build up ever seen. The Vast majority is cruisers, then maybe 1/6 as many carriers, battleships, and battle cruisers.

Seeing as I hadn't built this many prior you can easily see I wasn't trying to build a giant death navy until forced to do so.

Actually the war in Finland went rather well for myself and France, at least from my perspective. He may feel differently, but we eliminated about 60 to 100 divisions there. Also, when the WP was agreed we had begun to put pressure on a gap in the line and may have achieved breakthrough. Of course, Finnish casualties were entirely accidental, it was PEC troops we were after.

I good number of those losses would be mine, underpowered compared to European divisions, but that is not the reason for there defeat. Prussia gave military access to Indonesia to march them one way, but then refused to allow them to march back (aka got stuck in a pocket near France)
Indonesia will be sure to remember this in the future.

 

[carillon]

I good number of those losses would be mine, underpowered compared to European divisions, but that is not the reason for there defeat. Prussia gave military access to Indonesia to march them one way, but then refused to allow them to march back (aka got stuck in a pocket near France)
Indonesia will be sure to remember this in the future.

Hmm, I didn't actually fight you I think, only Georgian and Chinese, Finnish when it couldn't be helped.

And Golle, the war was so light! We clearly tried hard not to injure Finland when at all possible. Especially after you turned on us after the west had tried hard to keep Georgia territorially intact.

 

[Varyar]

EDIT:
You have 31 factories but only 27 in Italianopolis. Where are the other 4?

One in El Salvador and one in northeastern Brazil. The last two I have no idea where they are, no doubt they were built by rogue capitalists trying to revolt against the industry centralization policy

 

[Edzako]

I had 100 ships in Que before you attacked, we both sunk about that many of each others, fearing a prolonged war lasting till conversion, Indonesia underwent the largest naval build up ever seen. The Vast majority is cruisers, then maybe 1/6 as many carriers, battleships, and battle cruisers.

That is true, Norwegian Dow caught whole PEC by surprise and forced to rethink our foreign policy. Even peaceful Japan with it's ~40 Vick divisions and old minuscule fleet undertook great naval military modernization and have more carriers and battleships than Norway and Italy combined, (if my intelligence can be trusted)

 

[Gollevainen]

And Golle, the war was so light! We clearly tried hard not to injure Finland when at all possible. Especially after you turned on us after the west had tried hard to keep Georgia territorially intact.

Loosing our airunits and tanks in the initial blow wasen't something that we consider light. And Finland didn't turn against anyone back in the seccond gangrape of Gerogia. We were neutral (tough syphatising) georgia, but didn't took part of the hositilities. Also I don't recall seeing much german troops down there either.

The war harmed seriously Finlands last attemps to get better conversion and it did so even more for our ally Georgia...thus these deeds wont be forgotten nor forgiven and will be charged back...

 

[King of Men]

We only built so many ships because you attacked us! We wouldve stayed at a certain level but then came war and we had to over produce em'

We only attacked you because you built so many! And had we been able to hold Cuttack, our terms would have included "All your carriers are belong to us."

 

[unmerged(82490)]

What would be the dissent hit/national unity hit from an ICBM-Hydrogen Bomb to italianopolis? And just how fucked would you be?

 

[Herbert West]

What would be the dissent hit/national unity hit from an ICBM-Hydrogen Bomb to italianopolis? And just how fucked would you be?

Dissent = (IC * 0.45) + (MP * 0.9)

 

[carillon]

Loosing our airunits and tanks in the initial blow wasen't something that we consider light. And Finland didn't turn against anyone back in the seccond gangrape of Gerogia. We were neutral (tough syphatising) georgia, but didn't took part of the hositilities. Also I don't recall seeing much german troops down there either.

The war harmed seriously Finlands last attemps to get better conversion and it did so even more for our ally Georgia...thus these deeds wont be forgotten nor forgiven and will be charged back...

Really? Because German troops were there. And it was light, there was really no push against Finnish troops once PEC troops arrived on the scene to be attacked.

 

[Gollevainen]

Yeah that was when my 5 divs stacks were already destroyed...

 

[Edzako]

Dissent = (IC * 0.45) + (MP * 0.9)

That means Italy would receive 100% dissent hit.

Oh I would love to see that

 

[unmerged(77708)]

That is not the first nor the third time Italy's capital city has been threatened with a nuclear strike. It seems italian foreign policy must be dictated under the shadow of atomic fire; Although time would seem to favour the americas in that it affords them sustainable industrial growth the PEC does not have the resources to keep pace with, perhaps Italy would be better served by a course that lays low their opponents before 1944, when war takes a far bleaker and apocalyptic tone.

 

[DanomitePrime]

That is not the first nor the third time Italy's capital city has been threatened with a nuclear strike. It seems italian foreign policy must be dictated under the shadow of atomic fire; Although time would seem to favour the americas in that it affords them sustainable industrial growth the PEC does not have the resources to keep pace with, perhaps Italy would be better served by a course that lays low their opponents before 1944, when war takes a far bleaker and apocalyptic tone.

Just a note, we will be playing with a variant of the ColdWar Extension Mod, which will have tech up to 1969, including the Moon Landing secret project...
So there is still plenty of time for a Nuclear coldwar with America

And to put out the rumours, Indonesia will not take part in a recreated PEC. President John Henry Eden, President of all of Indonesia is currently in talks at midway with various powers to hopefully reduce tensions in the Pacific. Hopes are that an understanding and possibly free-trade be established in the region.

 

[lwarmonger]

Italy has 8 years to build an industrial base elsewhere though, and the resources and breathing room (assuming Indonesia can be held at bay) to utilize it.

 

[DanomitePrime]

Italy has 8 years to build an industrial base elsewhere though, and the resources and breathing room (assuming Indonesia can be held at bay) to utilize it.

! I am not the threat here, Norway is the real threat!

 

[Varyar]

Dammit people stop talking about nuclear strikes on Italianopolis! You might give someone ideas

That means Italy would receive 100% dissent hit.

Oh I would love to see that

Nuking the world's most densely populated area, the home of more than 140 million, would be the worst crime against humanity ever.

 

[unmerged(77708)]

Italy has 8 years to build an industrial base elsewhere though, and the resources and breathing room (assuming Indonesia can be held at bay) to utilize it.

Additional IC elsewhere is meaningless if you have 100 dissent.

 

[Edzako]

Yeah, sorry didn't mean that seriously. Btw maybe Italian IC should be dispersed as there is no way there can be so much IC in one province, even with famed Italian efficiency .

 

[Sid Meier]

On the bright side for Italy it would be YEARS before anyone could strike it, at best maybe late game strategic bombers from occupied Hawaii might work otherwise itll take ICBMs.

Unless the strike comes from Norway....

 

[Varyar]

ICBMs.

We should ban these.



Won't anyone think of the children!