Hello to all!
This is the presentation thread of "The Empires of God" a mod that I am working by myself from some months.
Scope of The Mod
In a lot of forum threads there are a lot of talks about the fact that being an Emperor is not simply be more that a King and that that more flavor should be added. In particular in the Christian world be an Emperor gave to you a sort of sacral aura, the coronation of the Holy Roman Emperor was similar to the creation by the Pope of a Cardinal. It is for this that the Emperor had, in the middle ages these prerogatives:
In the Orthodox world similar situations with the Byzantine Emperor and the pretender Empires of Bulgaria and Serbia could be tough.
Outer the Christian world we have similar situations any Muslim Emperor tried to become a Caliph and only after this is Emperorship become factual, a Persian Zoroastrian Emperor was a semi God, in China and Japan they were practically the Head of the Church.
A Tier above Emperor
For this mod a concept of tier above Emperor is present some Empires are so bigger that could be logically divided in two or more Empires and for sure had Emperors as vassals.
This is for example the situation when the Roman Empire was divided in Prefectures, the Prefectures was not Emperors but commanded the same respect and, indeed, with the Tetrarchy they became effectively Emperors, but one of this Emperors held all the others as his vassals.
Successively the Roman Empire was divided in two parts: Western Roman Empire and Eastern Roman Empire but the Eastern Roman Emperor held Seniority on the other.
The Emperor of China considered himself a divine figure and so had no problem to vassalize Kaghan of Mongols, The “Emperor” of Korea and The Emperor of Japan, but in this case it would be more correct to talk of tributary States.
In more modern period the Kings (Emperors) of Spain and England / Britain vassallized tribal Empires without problems.
As (for now) Crusader King II does not permit to add tiers this is accomplished inverting in some sense the concept that is a Roman Emperor is an Emperor while and independent Emperor of Hispania is called High King Hispania (if Christian is only King) but if vassal of the Emperor is a Praetorian Prefect of normal King rank (that is you get a giant Kingdom of Spain in the map without Castile, Galicia and so on...).
Some example of these Empires: Roman Empire, Arabian Empire, North Sea Empire (Midgar?) and Indian Empire.
De Jure High Kingdoms in 876 AD (Europe only)
De Jure High Kingdoms in 876 AD (The East)
De Jure High Kingdoms in 1066
Translatio Imperium and Pretenders
The people of the Middle Ages had the conception that, in reality, the Western and Eastern Roman Empire had never ended but simply continued with some period of interregnum. Charles the Great was considered a Roman Emperor in all effects in par with Julius Caesar, Augustus, Trajan, Nero and so on.
In the East the Greek Empire of Byzantium held the same claim but in reality more time passed and it become more and more Hellenized until it lose totally it Roman heritage.
We, as powerful men of the future, known that, in reality, these two states were not the real thing but only
the rightful successor states of the Roman Empire and so in the mod are the ones entitled with the possibility to reform it.
As already said other Empires could exists and some are entitled with the possibility to be Pretenders to be Successor of The Roman Empire:
1. S.P.Q.R. special Empire that can be created by "The Commune of Rome" after the conquest of all the Italian Peninsula if you have played the mod called "The Commune of Rome" in it was called Western Roman Empire but I have reevaluated this as an exaggeration
2. (High) Kingdom of Germania, ex Holy Roman Empire after being defeated by S.P.Q.R.
3. (High) Kingdom of Italia, ex S.P.Q.R. after being defeated by (High) Kingdom of Germania (that will be H.R.E. again)
3. Tzardom of Bulgaria and Romània
4. Tzardom of Serbia and Romània
5. Tzardom of Russia
6. Empire of Trebizond
7. Latin Empire (or if you prefer "Empire of Romània")
8. Empire of Nicaea
the pretender will have a special casus belli against the rightful successor state and when used it could trigger a sort of "great war" that could involve other important rulers that could pick a side or another. In the end of the war a conference of Peace will be held by the victor to redrawn the new face of Europe.
(more images when I end the work on this event chain)
Coronations
A concept of coronations is already part of the mod thanks to "Rex In Regno Suo Est Imperator" that it in part integrated but more flavour will be added for example the Holy Roman Emperor in future will hold after the election only the title of (High) King of Germania and only after he has obtained the crown of King of Italy he could become Holy Roman Emperor if the Pope likes him. Other important coronation rituals will be added for example the
Coronation of the King of Hungary with all the concept of Apostolic King.
Coronation of Emperor of the Romans
Coronation of Emperor of the Romans (narrative event)
More difficult to reform the Roman Empire
Reforming the Roman Empire is no more simply as collect disparate territories but you need before to held the titles of Western and Eastern Roman Emperor and to obtain these titles will be not easy.
To become the Western Roman Emperor you need :
1. To be the Rightful successor state of the Western Roman Empire (usually the Holy Roman Emperor)
2. No pretender to be successor should be present in the West
3. You should be (High) King of Italia
4. You should be (High) King of Francia
5. You should be (High) King of Hispania
6. If Catholic the Pope must be your vassal
To become the Eastern Roman Emperor you need:
1. To be the Rightful successor state of the Eastern Roman Empire (usually the Byzantine Empire)
2. No pretender to be successor should be present in the East
3. You should be (High) of Illiria
4. You should be (High) King of Hellas (usually called Byzantine Empire)
5. You should be the (High) King of Aegyptus
6. If Orthodox the Ecumenical Patriarch must be your vassal
Praetorian Prefectures
When the Western or Eastern Roman Empire is reformed a special decision to recreate the Roman Prefectures will be present that gives the possibility to fuse the petty realms of the feudal kings in more powerful administrative units. From the game point of view imagine this as a sort of Viceroyal Emperors!
This titles will be a sort of mixed titles as they will be landed but in some way mercenaries has they will be always a standing army linked to the title itself called, obviously, Legion.
It is easy to understand that they are a powerful tool but they have they drawbacks too what happens if one of the Praetorian Prefect become ambitious? Well he could declare himself to be the true Emperor declaring war to the Emperor himself. If you know the history of Rome or if you are a Game of Thrones fan you should know how this operated if not know what I'm talking go play to AGOT or, better, take a good history book
The Defender of the Faith
This was my last work as modder of "The Commune of Rome" but as I fear it is too little publicized I think it is better to talk of it here.
The Defender of the Faith is, for now, used only for Catholic characters it is a special trait given by the Pope to a meritous King or above character. The character that receive this trait gets obviously prestige and piety but it gets duties too:
For other information I link the last developer diary of the Commune of Rome in which you will find more informations and images.
Some images:
Future expansion of the Mod
I have a lot of great ideas for this mod: the first path of expansion is in the other great Empires for example Dar Al Islam (Arabian Empire), an Empire for the Nordic Pagan held by the Fylkir(for now I call it "The Fylkirate"), an expansion of the religious expect of the mod with the God(s) effectively represented as characters (God Odin of Valhalla) that in some way interact with the characters, the investiture conflict with the concept of Guelph and Ghibellines, more bookmarks for "The Commune of Rome" I have at least two bookmarks that I will add for sure one in which an heretic bishop came in Rome (Arnaldo da Brescia) converting the Commune to a catholic heresy and another regarding Cola di Rienzo. In the future I'd like to find a way to represent the Italian Communes too!
Integrated Mods
The Commune of Rome (frankatank109 and fanoI)
Rex In Regno Suo Est Imperator (Farathorn) with some adaptations
Credits
CK2+ Team for the flag of Gran Duchy of Tuscany
Athalcor for the flags of the different Englands based by culture and the accompanying events (actually inactive in the mod)
Flavorful Titular Titles (Various flags/CoAs, the actual decisions to create the titular titles will be not used)
Request for help
As you have seen the project ambitious and the task is really too big for only a man to accomplish so I need your help!
In particular:
1. A graphic to create traits icons, COA, flags and so on (in the current version of the mod there are lot of placeholders) in future will be possible that some change to the map will be necessary maybe to make all rivers navigable!
2. Other coders to help me with the bulk of events / decisions
3. Someone that beta test the mod
This is the presentation thread of "The Empires of God" a mod that I am working by myself from some months.
Scope of The Mod
In a lot of forum threads there are a lot of talks about the fact that being an Emperor is not simply be more that a King and that that more flavor should be added. In particular in the Christian world be an Emperor gave to you a sort of sacral aura, the coronation of the Holy Roman Emperor was similar to the creation by the Pope of a Cardinal. It is for this that the Emperor had, in the middle ages these prerogatives:
- A sacral aura of sort that gives to him the authority to guide all the Christendom
- The fact that his should elect the Pope because The Emperor is indeed a Cardinal!
- There should be only one Empire in the west, the successor state of the Western Roman Empire is only one!
In the Orthodox world similar situations with the Byzantine Emperor and the pretender Empires of Bulgaria and Serbia could be tough.
Outer the Christian world we have similar situations any Muslim Emperor tried to become a Caliph and only after this is Emperorship become factual, a Persian Zoroastrian Emperor was a semi God, in China and Japan they were practically the Head of the Church.
A Tier above Emperor
For this mod a concept of tier above Emperor is present some Empires are so bigger that could be logically divided in two or more Empires and for sure had Emperors as vassals.
This is for example the situation when the Roman Empire was divided in Prefectures, the Prefectures was not Emperors but commanded the same respect and, indeed, with the Tetrarchy they became effectively Emperors, but one of this Emperors held all the others as his vassals.
Successively the Roman Empire was divided in two parts: Western Roman Empire and Eastern Roman Empire but the Eastern Roman Emperor held Seniority on the other.
The Emperor of China considered himself a divine figure and so had no problem to vassalize Kaghan of Mongols, The “Emperor” of Korea and The Emperor of Japan, but in this case it would be more correct to talk of tributary States.
In more modern period the Kings (Emperors) of Spain and England / Britain vassallized tribal Empires without problems.
As (for now) Crusader King II does not permit to add tiers this is accomplished inverting in some sense the concept that is a Roman Emperor is an Emperor while and independent Emperor of Hispania is called High King Hispania (if Christian is only King) but if vassal of the Emperor is a Praetorian Prefect of normal King rank (that is you get a giant Kingdom of Spain in the map without Castile, Galicia and so on...).
Some example of these Empires: Roman Empire, Arabian Empire, North Sea Empire (Midgar?) and Indian Empire.
De Jure High Kingdoms in 876 AD (Europe only)
De Jure High Kingdoms in 876 AD (The East)
De Jure High Kingdoms in 1066
Translatio Imperium and Pretenders
The people of the Middle Ages had the conception that, in reality, the Western and Eastern Roman Empire had never ended but simply continued with some period of interregnum. Charles the Great was considered a Roman Emperor in all effects in par with Julius Caesar, Augustus, Trajan, Nero and so on.
In the East the Greek Empire of Byzantium held the same claim but in reality more time passed and it become more and more Hellenized until it lose totally it Roman heritage.
We, as powerful men of the future, known that, in reality, these two states were not the real thing but only
the rightful successor states of the Roman Empire and so in the mod are the ones entitled with the possibility to reform it.
As already said other Empires could exists and some are entitled with the possibility to be Pretenders to be Successor of The Roman Empire:
1. S.P.Q.R. special Empire that can be created by "The Commune of Rome" after the conquest of all the Italian Peninsula if you have played the mod called "The Commune of Rome" in it was called Western Roman Empire but I have reevaluated this as an exaggeration
2. (High) Kingdom of Germania, ex Holy Roman Empire after being defeated by S.P.Q.R.
3. (High) Kingdom of Italia, ex S.P.Q.R. after being defeated by (High) Kingdom of Germania (that will be H.R.E. again)
3. Tzardom of Bulgaria and Romània
4. Tzardom of Serbia and Romània
5. Tzardom of Russia
6. Empire of Trebizond
7. Latin Empire (or if you prefer "Empire of Romània")
8. Empire of Nicaea
the pretender will have a special casus belli against the rightful successor state and when used it could trigger a sort of "great war" that could involve other important rulers that could pick a side or another. In the end of the war a conference of Peace will be held by the victor to redrawn the new face of Europe.
(more images when I end the work on this event chain)
Coronations
A concept of coronations is already part of the mod thanks to "Rex In Regno Suo Est Imperator" that it in part integrated but more flavour will be added for example the Holy Roman Emperor in future will hold after the election only the title of (High) King of Germania and only after he has obtained the crown of King of Italy he could become Holy Roman Emperor if the Pope likes him. Other important coronation rituals will be added for example the
Coronation of the King of Hungary with all the concept of Apostolic King.
Coronation of Emperor of the Romans
Coronation of Emperor of the Romans (narrative event)
More difficult to reform the Roman Empire
Reforming the Roman Empire is no more simply as collect disparate territories but you need before to held the titles of Western and Eastern Roman Emperor and to obtain these titles will be not easy.
To become the Western Roman Emperor you need :
1. To be the Rightful successor state of the Western Roman Empire (usually the Holy Roman Emperor)
2. No pretender to be successor should be present in the West
3. You should be (High) King of Italia
4. You should be (High) King of Francia
5. You should be (High) King of Hispania
6. If Catholic the Pope must be your vassal
To become the Eastern Roman Emperor you need:
1. To be the Rightful successor state of the Eastern Roman Empire (usually the Byzantine Empire)
2. No pretender to be successor should be present in the East
3. You should be (High) of Illiria
4. You should be (High) King of Hellas (usually called Byzantine Empire)
5. You should be the (High) King of Aegyptus
6. If Orthodox the Ecumenical Patriarch must be your vassal
Praetorian Prefectures
When the Western or Eastern Roman Empire is reformed a special decision to recreate the Roman Prefectures will be present that gives the possibility to fuse the petty realms of the feudal kings in more powerful administrative units. From the game point of view imagine this as a sort of Viceroyal Emperors!
This titles will be a sort of mixed titles as they will be landed but in some way mercenaries has they will be always a standing army linked to the title itself called, obviously, Legion.
It is easy to understand that they are a powerful tool but they have they drawbacks too what happens if one of the Praetorian Prefect become ambitious? Well he could declare himself to be the true Emperor declaring war to the Emperor himself. If you know the history of Rome or if you are a Game of Thrones fan you should know how this operated if not know what I'm talking go play to AGOT or, better, take a good history book
The Defender of the Faith
This was my last work as modder of "The Commune of Rome" but as I fear it is too little publicized I think it is better to talk of it here.
The Defender of the Faith is, for now, used only for Catholic characters it is a special trait given by the Pope to a meritous King or above character. The character that receive this trait gets obviously prestige and piety but it gets duties too:
- He is called in any defensive war of the Pope (no more easy to vassalize the Pope only because you have an Anti Pope!)
- He is called in any offensive war of the Pope (typically Crusades)
- He has a special Casus Belli against who usurped Rome from the Pope
For other information I link the last developer diary of the Commune of Rome in which you will find more informations and images.
Some images:
Future expansion of the Mod
I have a lot of great ideas for this mod: the first path of expansion is in the other great Empires for example Dar Al Islam (Arabian Empire), an Empire for the Nordic Pagan held by the Fylkir(for now I call it "The Fylkirate"), an expansion of the religious expect of the mod with the God(s) effectively represented as characters (God Odin of Valhalla) that in some way interact with the characters, the investiture conflict with the concept of Guelph and Ghibellines, more bookmarks for "The Commune of Rome" I have at least two bookmarks that I will add for sure one in which an heretic bishop came in Rome (Arnaldo da Brescia) converting the Commune to a catholic heresy and another regarding Cola di Rienzo. In the future I'd like to find a way to represent the Italian Communes too!
Integrated Mods
The Commune of Rome (frankatank109 and fanoI)
Rex In Regno Suo Est Imperator (Farathorn) with some adaptations
Credits
CK2+ Team for the flag of Gran Duchy of Tuscany
Athalcor for the flags of the different Englands based by culture and the accompanying events (actually inactive in the mod)
Flavorful Titular Titles (Various flags/CoAs, the actual decisions to create the titular titles will be not used)
Request for help
As you have seen the project ambitious and the task is really too big for only a man to accomplish so I need your help!
In particular:
1. A graphic to create traits icons, COA, flags and so on (in the current version of the mod there are lot of placeholders) in future will be possible that some change to the map will be necessary maybe to make all rivers navigable!
2. Other coders to help me with the bulk of events / decisions
3. Someone that beta test the mod
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