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The Ministry of Security will set to work suppressing all of these potential uprisings, especially the Communist one. We have yet to determine a link with the Cult, but I am sure there is one. How else would they have gotten this far?

~Alexios Doukas

(( You should probably be careful of implying in-game consequences. Mayhaps in the future claim to 'keep an eye on' them or some such, at least until I've as much as stated I'm going to press the suppress button. :) ))

As for the economic situation, if the Empress indeed wishes to lower the amount of Communist sympathizers, as many seem to, she should simply redistribute taxes to focus more on the middle and upper tiers of income. From what I've heard the capitalists do little useful and efficiently besides build railroads.

(( Is that how it actually works in-game? I was really startled at the number of communists, whom are mostly minority pops in the colonies and various Jewish peoples all over. Goodness knows the capitalists really are only good for building railroads right now, but I'm not sure why. If they could be induced to build more factories, that would be helpful for the immediate concern of keeping unemployment away. ))
 
(( You should probably be careful of implying in-game consequences. Mayhaps in the future claim to 'keep an eye on' them or some such, at least until I've as much as stated I'm going to press the suppress button. :) ))



(( Is that how it actually works in-game? I was really startled at the number of communists, whom are mostly minority pops in the colonies and various Jewish peoples all over. Goodness knows the capitalists really are only good for building railroads right now, but I'm not sure why. If they could be induced to build more factories, that would be helpful for the immediate concern of keeping unemployment away. ))

((In the pop windows if you hover over some part of the bar, in a specific group of pops in the bottom right section, it'll give you their chance of joining factions and why. If they aren't getting their needs met, which excessive taxes causes, they'll be more likely to be part of communist revolts. The reason why most players struggle so much with communist rebels is because they keep their poor taxes maxed, and in colonies especially needs of the lower class will be very difficult to meet, due to the lack of admin efficiency in colonies. I also would really encourage you to take control of industry somehow, either by changing faction alignment, or democratizing and encouraging the socialists to take control. It requires micromanagement, but your economy becomes unstoppable if you take the time to do it. Make sure that you check for obsolete factories, specifically clipper factories. Destroy those and replace with steamers.))

Indeed Empress, I call attention to what has always been the first demand I have made: A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. The mere fact of reality is that the less money you have, the larger percentage of it is needed to survive. The fact that the upper income brackets pay less percentage-wise than the lower is a travesty.

~Nicodemo Theodosio
 
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(( I'm not sure if that's the same box I looked at briefly, but if it was, it seemed the biggest factor was that those pops were non-accepted cultures. Though taxes and the like may be enough to offset that issue and help the militancy decrease. As for the industry, we've actually been running on State Capitalism this whole time. It's just hard keeping up with the needs of our expanding workforce at the moment. ))
 
(( I'm not sure if that's the same box I looked at briefly, but if it was, it seemed the biggest factor was that those pops were non-accepted cultures. Though taxes and the like may be enough to offset that issue and help the militancy decrease. As for the industry, we've actually been running on State Capitalism this whole time. It's just hard keeping up with the needs of our expanding workforce at the moment. ))

((State capitalist factions for everything? OP OP. That's like the whole point of working towards other government forms in most games. I mean you're an absolute monarchy so you can just pick reactionary normally anyway, but still. As for how to see what I'm talking about. Go to the Population tab. Underneath the six piecharts, there's a list of all the POPs in a state, with rows like this: 1287 ( o.o) British ✞ Middlesex 0.00 2.00 etc. Click on the actual picture of a POP [the ( o.o) in that diagram] and you'll see a more detailed breakdown of that POP.))
 
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(( Well, just for reactionaries and conservatives. I've just stuck with them in this game, which makes sense with the whole 'Absolute Monarchy' thing (which also disallows socialist and communist ruling parties).

I'll check on the pops once I'm back home this evening.

Also, while I've got you here, your character is calling for some specific policies. Can you unpack some of them for me a little? I'm not sure if they're meant to correspond to in-game actions or just RP ones in a few cases:

2. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. Is this asking for research in the commerce area? Or is there something I can do to make the Central Bank decision I see in other AARs appear? I had just assumed it was a NNM thing.
3. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State. I would guess this is just RP, am I right?
4. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. State Capitalism/Planned Economy Policies?
5. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country. Not sure what this means, either in gameplay terms or roleplay terms.
6. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production. School reforms, and choosing to abolish child labor in the appropriate decisions, right?
7. The appointment of powerful regional governors for each separate nationality still distinguished in the Empire. These governors are to be selected from members of the populace, and not appointed to a Greek as has been done in previous such situations. This is an intriguing RP idea that I think I want to do (more titles for everyone!), but I need to write up some notes first.

In any case, thanks for your active involvement. (Everyone else, thank you too!)

))
 
((I've never played V2, so I have no idea what the policies are, but the Angeloi will support anything that maintains the power of the nobility, continues to spread Greek influence and/or keeps the Empire supreme in its various spheres.))
 
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((I'm not asking to push the suppress button, that was just roleplay.))
 
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((Well most of these were taken, with slight alterations to fit the historical situation, from the actual Communist Manifesto, but I do think they have some relevance to gameplay.

2. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
This is represented by monetary systems research, but can also serve as rp. The question of the State bank is one that is oddly left out. It is especially relevant in American history as well.

3. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
Essentially just rp yes, I'm calling for a general actual state capitalist approach if that is the government type's system. The socialists would also support greater state control, and I see that they grew very quickly. I would also warn you that this amount of communist rebels this early (pre vanguard theory discovery) is only going to get much much worse. Would warn you that the primary nation that attempted to remain an absolute monarchy despite massive popular pressure was also the one overthrown by the Communists.

4. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
Basically stop letting the capitalists build bad factories, take control of industry yourself. The wasteland bit was for colonial expansion into the widely unpopulated areas.

5. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country
As there's no actual ingame way to affect population migration, this isn't really doable, but is something that is relevant to a Roman Empire, given the similar ideas had during Roman times.

6. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
Essentially what you said. School and Healthcare should be your priority on social reforms anyway unless one faction is really radical.

7. The appointment of powerful regional governors for each separate nationality still distinguished in the Empire. These governors are to be selected from members of the populace, and not appointed to a Greek as has been done in previous such situations.
Glad to hear you like it, it seems to me that culture is as relevant in many of these discussions as political leanings, and there are at least a couple members now representing other nationalities within the Empire.

Given the apparent quite large socialist faction, someone had to speak for the left. That communist rebellion size though...))
 
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((If the communists somehow manage to enforce their demands on us, can we set up a government in exile in Australia?))
 
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((If the communists somehow manage to enforce their demands on us, can we set up a government in exile in Australia?))

((My idea for if this happens is to have the Empress remain as a figurehead, some schools of communist thought advocate a symbolic leader. The aristocratic characters would probably be unhappy with this (purges likely) but I think it could be interesting to transition into a more modern political scene. Up to the writer though, of course. Scripting things to happen in game can be quite fun.))
 
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(( Well, just for reactionaries and conservatives. I've just stuck with them in this game, which makes sense with the whole 'Absolute Monarchy' thing (which also disallows socialist and communist ruling parties).

I'll check on the pops once I'm back home this evening.

Also, while I've got you here, your character is calling for some specific policies. Can you unpack some of them for me a little? I'm not sure if they're meant to correspond to in-game actions or just RP ones in a few cases:

2. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. Is this asking for research in the commerce area? Or is there something I can do to make the Central Bank decision I see in other AARs appear? I had just assumed it was a NNM thing.
3. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State. I would guess this is just RP, am I right?
4. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. State Capitalism/Planned Economy Policies?
5. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country. Not sure what this means, either in gameplay terms or roleplay terms.
6. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production. School reforms, and choosing to abolish child labor in the appropriate decisions, right?
7. The appointment of powerful regional governors for each separate nationality still distinguished in the Empire. These governors are to be selected from members of the populace, and not appointed to a Greek as has been done in previous such situations. This is an intriguing RP idea that I think I want to do (more titles for everyone!), but I need to write up some notes first.

In any case, thanks for your active involvement. (Everyone else, thank you too!)

))
((2. Central Bank decision is unlocked after a certain technology in the tax tree (forget which one). Not very useful in vanilla but it is good with mods.
3. Well, you could built more railroads, forts and naval bases manually. That could count. Too bad you don't have HPM, then you can build telegraphs.
4.State capitalism yeah. Increase the life rating and colonizing also fit this.
5. Even balance of industry. Make the Empire somewhat more self- sufficient (build factories for goods your importing). Try the immigration NF for more equable distribution of people over the land.
6. School reforms yes. There is no decision to abolish child labor, it will have to be RP'ed, unless you have PDM, HPM, or something like that.
7. Look at the pop chart and see what the majority of the populace are. THat allows you to assign positions based on ideological alignment and ethnicity, instead of ethnicity by itself.))
 
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I must make it known that in my opinion a graduated income tax is just not fair.
Why should the poor man pay in nothing the well to do pay say 10% and the rich pay 50%. There is absolutely no justice in this. An unlikely example I know but not impossible.
However I do believe that those not so well off within our empire do deserve some kind of tax reduction. as it must be accepted that a certain basic income is required to survive.
 
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93. 1869-1880 - Senators Reply
((Are the Communists Marxist? If so, than socialism can only come through revolution))

Anarchism is the epitome of social disaster. You yourself have admitted that you do not want the Emperor, you support anarchism! People will shoot each other for sport, it will be a return to the feudal peasant- hunting days! ((Why are you supporting anarchism? Its like the complete opposite of socialism. Sorry for short speech, little time for me to write this.))

We do not listen to the words of Marx, except we agree that this change is destined to happen. Already we are the second largest party should those fools in the liberal party understand that their time is done we will soon control the senate.

Anarchism maybe a sideline for some in the Empire, but not for those of the party. As for us being violent our supporters that are champing for change number in the millions, yet only a fraction have become militant. Look at the last vestiges of the reactionaries, only a few 10's of thousands yet they are far more likely to take up arms!

Whilst we would look to full sufferage as it would truely put our party as the power in the Empire, the Empress is our monarch and we will defend her to the death. However we do fully support the minimum wage, injured workers cover and a limit on the number of hours a man or woman can work in a day.

As per my previous speech I note that our poorest still pay the majority of taxes, yet receive the least protection. This can not stand.

This treasonous suffrage movement should be suppressed at all costs. To defile the Senate by transforming it into a vulgar democratic body would threaten the integrity of the Empire.

-Moustakas

The Ministry of Security will set to work suppressing all of these potential uprisings, especially the Communist one. We have yet to determine a link with the Cult, but I am sure there is one. How else would they have gotten this far?

~Alexios Doukas

I would point out that a large number of our soldiers are already part of radical organizations. This is likely to only grow over time. Indeed this appraisal of radicals in the empire shows the growth of the Communist movement. Those who are potentially rebels are those who are losing faith in the empire's ability to take care of them.

As for the economic situation, if the Empress indeed wishes to lower the amount of Communist sympathizers, as many seem to, she should simply redistribute taxes to focus more on the middle and upper tiers of income. From what I've heard the capitalists do little useful and efficiently besides build railroads.



((There are many schools of thought on how a revolution can be gone about. For this character I'm espousing a more nationalist variety, with a focus on Socialism in One State, and the power of a symbolic leader, as Juche contends. A lot against my normal Trotskyite thought, but in my opinion more appropriate for a situation such as this. Also pretty sure Communism as a party in Vicky 2 is more focused on the second stage of it, i.e. Lenin and others. Whether revolution is planned, lets leave that to history eh? If situations continue as they have been for many years despite the strong Socialist and Communist presence, it is entirely realistic that the methods of this character and others might turn revolutionary. Now whether to slaughter that revolution is another thing entirely, would be very interested in seeing a true Roman Empire of the people.))

The goal of anarchism is the annihilation of class society, is it not? Anarchists, communists, and socialists (If they believe that socialism is a transitory state as written in most every text) all desire the end of class warfare, and the seizing of political power by the proletariat.

I support the Empress strongly, her intentions have proven benevolent, unlike many here. Her as a symbol, and as a powerful part of the government, is necessary in my opinion.

~Nicodemo Theodosio

((In the pop windows if you hover over some part of the bar, in a specific group of pops in the bottom right section, it'll give you their chance of joining factions and why. If they aren't getting their needs met, which excessive taxes causes, they'll be more likely to be part of communist revolts. The reason why most players struggle so much with communist rebels is because they keep their poor taxes maxed, and in colonies especially needs of the lower class will be very difficult to meet, due to the lack of admin efficiency in colonies. I also would really encourage you to take control of industry somehow, either by changing faction alignment, or democratizing and encouraging the socialists to take control. It requires micromanagement, but your economy becomes unstoppable if you take the time to do it. Make sure that you check for obsolete factories, specifically clipper factories. Destroy those and replace with steamers.))

Indeed Empress, I call attention to what has always been the first demand I have made: A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. The mere fact of reality is that the less money you have, the larger percentage of it is needed to survive. The fact that the upper income brackets pay less percentage-wise than the lower is a travesty.

~Nicodemo Theodosio

I must make it known that in my opinion a graduated income tax is just not fair.
Why should the poor man pay in nothing the well to do pay say 10% and the rich pay 50%. There is absolutely no justice in this. An unlikely example I know but not impossible.
However I do believe that those not so well off within our empire do deserve some kind of tax reduction. as it must be accepted that a certain basic income is required to survive.
 
93. 1869-1880 - The Address, part two
Senators,

Welcome back from the intermission. Many of you have brought forward various concerns, and they will be addressed at the end of the address.

When the Private Bank Money Bill Printing laws had been drafted, We allowed the Admiralty to design naval bases that could specialize in different forms of ships. Though it seemed it might be some time before any could be built, as the world was facing a great shortage of cement.
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In July of 1875, there was a much larger revolt. You no doubt remember when the Scholai Palantinae were forced to retreat and Constantinople was put to siege.
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And how XXIV. Legio assisted the Scholai Palatinae in repulsing the rebels before they came close to breaching the walls. The rest of the rebels were easily dispersed. Before the end of the year the last rebels had been removed.

When the naval bases were designed, We tasked a group with finding cheaper ways of making steel.
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This research also gave the Empire improved methods of extracting coal.
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While the Empire's dye supply problems seemed to have been eased, an errant experiment with coal tar had produced a new artificial dye. The Chemistry Department at the University of Constantinople promised a new age of innovation if they were supported in their quest to understand organic chemistry. So We gave them support in this endeavor.
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In April of 1877, Germany declared war on Bavaria. We had added Germany to Our sphere of influence, and were surprised when they did not immediately ask for Our aid. We quickly signed an alliance. But when no request to join their war came, We began fabricating a reason for war with Bavaria, pointing out to the Empire's newspapers the danger their fortifications proved, how those were a sure sign of their aggressive intentions.
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When the initial research into organic chemistry was complete (again improving the Legion's ability to avoid disease and other attrition), We ordered the Legions to begin training junior officers in how to make decisions for themselves, which would allow them to better take advantage of changes in the battles they faced.
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The war with Bavaria lasted until April of 1878, when they agreed to dismantle their fortifications in Bayern. Germany was now positioned to crush Bavaria.
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The improved military tactics only came after the war, but that meant that the next war would be even better fought.
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We insisted the Admiralty make the same training improvements as the Legions had just done.
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We spent the following months as We had most of the time in the previous years: heavily investing in the economy to try to provide jobs for everyone, and upgrading the Empire's naval bases.

Meanwhile, the new naval training was beginning to bear fruit.
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It was in August of 1879 that England saw the beginning of a new political force: Communists. Their reach was rapidly felt everywhere.
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And meanwhile, Germany's war with Bavaria stagnated, and it looked as though Bavaria might soon push back against them.
 
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((My little canon had the co-author of whatever texts I've written be an English character, Leon Lewis. Funny to see Communism emerge there.))

If the honorable senators remember the examinations of rebel factions in the Empire that we underwent years ago, they pointed to this rebellion being a risk. They might also remember that the numbers of those supporting communists was 10 times larger. If that force continues to build, without some release of tension, violence is sure.

~Nicodemo Theodosio
 
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Never forget the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest! Those savages, who were the predecessors of the Bavarians, massacred three legions there. We must seek to crush the Bavarians to atone for their crimes in that time. I am glad of our technological progress, I feel that Germany could soon be further included in the Roman Empire.

Senator Andronikos Palaiologos
 
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This form of communism in England sounds quite repugnant. A society without a government? Hows does such a country even operate without falling into anarchy? At least Roman communists have the sense to know that the Empress provides sound government and stability for the Empire.

Those damn Jacobins threatened Constantinople and put the Empress in danger. I hope the streets of Constantinople ran red with their blood for their insolence!

- Senator Leonardo Favero
 
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"A society without government? Hah! So the true motives of I Koinotita have been revealed, eh? Then there were those rebels, even besieging the walls of the Queen of Cities, and you want to give that rabble the vote?!

"Congratulations to the Empire's armies on their work against the Nemitzoi. Their final, feeble effort should be crushed and they should be at last absorbed into the Empire and never dare to stand apart from Rome again!"

~ Ioannes Angelos
 
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93. 1869-1880 - Senators Reply
Blasted Jacobins and Bavarians! We are facing a determined threat to Roman culture that could destroy us if we are not vigilant.

-Moustakas

((My little canon had the co-author of whatever texts I've written be an English character, Leon Lewis. Funny to see Communism emerge there.))

If the honorable senators remember the examinations of rebel factions in the Empire that we underwent years ago, they pointed to this rebellion being a risk. They might also remember that the numbers of those supporting communists was 10 times larger. If that force continues to build, without some release of tension, violence is sure.

~Nicodemo Theodosio

Never forget the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest! Those savages, who were the predecessors of the Bavarians, massacred three legions there. We must seek to crush the Bavarians to atone for their crimes in that time. I am glad of our technological progress, I feel that Germany could soon be further included in the Roman Empire.

Senator Andronikos Palaiologos

This form of communism in England sounds quite repugnant. A society without a government? Hows does such a country even operate without falling into anarchy? At least Roman communists have the sense to know that the Empress provides sound government and stability for the Empire.

Those damn Jacobins threatened Constantinople and put the Empress in danger. I hope the streets of Constantinople ran red with their blood for their insolence!

- Senator Leonardo Favero

"A society without government? Hah! So the true motives of I Koinotita have been revealed, eh? Then there were those rebels, even besieging the walls of the Queen of Cities, and you want to give that rabble the vote?!

"Congratulations to the Empire's armies on their work against the Nemitzoi. Their final, feeble effort should be crushed and they should be at last absorbed into the Empire and never dare to stand apart from Rome again!"

~ Ioannes Angelos