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that's gotta hurt, I wonder what will happen to Remus now, would he die or would he live? Will he be captured?

I really want to know ;)
 

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As usual, a quality update, Mett. It will be interesting to see how such a warlike existance takes its toll on Remus over time. In the end, he might find out that restoring the Western Roman Empire will cost it the very ideals that made it so alluring to him at the start.
 

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Great updates, Met! I too think Zeno is flaunting his splendour because it's the one means he has to put the Western upstarts in their place. Let's face it, by the 480s, the Eastern Empire might have been in better shape than the Western, but that only means it existed. The Huns had ravaged the Balkans and the Persians the East. Egypt was just about the only intact part of the Empire and the tributes paid to Attila had been crushing. As for the Army, the East relied heavily on barbarian mercenaries too, and when you're in financial dire straits, you certainly don't want to start any great campaigns in the west for which you have to hire even more mercenaries.

As for the attack on Mediolanum, I think Remus will have to grow up a bit. It's all very well for a general to risk his life to inspire his troops in a desperate situation, but his charging here was frivolous and self-indulgent. He's not a lowly decurion any more, he's the Magister Militium of the Western Empire and it depends totally on his skills as a General... not on his sword.
 

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Bloody good show with the storming of the city, although I have to agree with Yogi in that Remus is going to have to start remembering that he is not longer a lowly troop officer but THE commanding general. That means more often then not, NOT leading from the front, 'cause he just found out, that can get you killed, eh?
 

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Maybe now we will finally be free of this upstart! Twas an amusing show while it lasted, much like a jonguler trying to save his miserable hide with a clever performance, but now it is time for the real men to get back to Dark Ages barbarism at its finest!

Oh, and BTW: Peperna lives! ;)
 

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A new superb update Mettermrck, really good battle description there and Remus in the front leading the attack, there sure isn’t anything wrong with his bravery, but I have to agree with the concern by some of the others, He need to take care not to be killed or captured ;)

Mettermrck said:
Lord E: I sure meant to make you feel unworthy, Lord E, in those halls. :D

Well you sure did well then, I felt like a tiny ant... :D
 

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Sensible strategy, to conquer the rest of Italia while Ravenna lies securely behind its walls, but the strategy Remus employed is less so. As others have said, leading his troops from the front is very dangerous, not only to him, but to his newly restored Roman state as well.

Slightly ironic that the way Remus captures Milan has a lot more to do with the barbarian way of fighting (it's basically one big brawl, with no discipline, Remus leading from the front by example and no effort whatsoever to save women, children or even the city itself) than the 'Roman' way Remus dreams of. It seems that, in order to fullfill his dreams, Remus has to become what he hates.
 

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yourworstnightm said:
In the end Remus will realize that he just has created an other barbaric kingdom. Then he will flee to Brittain and serve king Arthur, so Avalon at last can be involved in the story.

jup, he's gonna lead the eagles legion in the armies of King Arthur, right?

It is afterall the EAGLES of Avalon :D
 

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Something almost magical about that last update. Lets hope that Remus isn't slowed down any. :)
 

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Avernite said:
that's gotta hurt, I wonder what will happen to Remus now, would he die or would he live? Will he be captured?

I really want to know ;)

Maybe the 'commander Remus' died in that battle, and this is the way the author lets us know that Remus 'will fight no more'?

Fantastic job!

Laur
 

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Stuyvesant said:
Slightly ironic that the way Remus captures Milan has a lot more to do with the barbarian way of fighting (it's basically one big brawl, with no discipline, Remus leading from the front by example and no effort whatsoever to save women, children or even the city itself) than the 'Roman' way Remus dreams of. It seems that, in order to fullfill his dreams, Remus has to become what he hates.

The 'Roman' way? How was this any different from what is depicted here? Roman soldiers were tough men, who gave no quarter, and got their major income (and fun) from sacking towns. Remember what Scipio did to Carthage and Numantia, Caesar to Alesia, Aurelian to Palmyra, and so many other examples (Corinth, for instance). Romans weren't nice to cities that resisted them, and pillaging always followed the capturing of a town. The soldiers expected no less -- certainly not in these times, when a Roman commander had lost the iron grip his ancestors had had on soldiers, and discipline was lax. Centuries of making and breaking emperors had given soldiers quite the idea about the power they possessed, certainly in an empire that fought for its life. So this is nothing new, nor should it be, to Remus.

Great chapter. I like the fact that we are left without knowledge about the fate of Milan. Did it fall to Remus, or was he rebuffed? We don't know. Brilliant :D
 

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It was looking like Remus was doing well up until that last bit. A hard thing, but part of the job, I suppose. And Selenus sure is getting an education. He really has come a long way and part of him must surely be overwhelmed.
 

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Pirate Z said:
The 'Roman' way? How was this any different from what is depicted here? Roman soldiers were tough men, who gave no quarter, and got their major income (and fun) from sacking towns. Remember what Scipio did to Carthage and Numantia, Caesar to Alesia, Aurelian to Palmyra, and so many other examples (Corinth, for instance). Romans weren't nice to cities that resisted them, and pillaging always followed the capturing of a town. The soldiers expected no less -- certainly not in these times, when a Roman commander had lost the iron grip his ancestors had had on soldiers, and discipline was lax. Centuries of making and breaking emperors had given soldiers quite the idea about the power they possessed, certainly in an empire that fought for its life. So this is nothing new, nor should it be, to Remus.

Hmm. You're definitely right about the pillaging, which basically means a large chunk of my argument is gone. :) However, I still think the way of fighting is quite 'barbaric': no unit tactics, just basic man-to-man combat. And Remus hacking away at enemies, one at a time, rather than directing his army. I have to admit, though, that I don't know anything about urban warfare in that time. So possibly an unorganized brawl was simply the best one, Roman or barbarian, could hope for?
 

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That is probably a fairy tale. Romans were unique under the Republic and the Principate in the sense that as commanders they were expected to command from behind the lines -- if near enough to inspire their men. This while Hellenic generals attempted to aspire to the legend of Alexander the Great by leading from the front.

From the establishment of the Dominate under Diocletian (if not earlier, since already in the third century, emperors were soldiers like Maximinus Thrax, not nobles, and thus accustomed to fighting up front), this practice began to decline. Belisarius fought next to his men in his first siege of Rome; however, I do not know if Aetius or the Vandal fellow fought as warriors as he did.
 

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Pirate Z said:
That is probably a fairy tale. Romans were unique under the Republic and the Principate in the sense that as commanders they were expected to command from behind the lines -- if near enough to inspire their men.

I lean the other way. Alexander the Great was a role model for Caesar. So what does Caesar do when he finds himself the commander of a largely untested army about to fight its first battle? He gets off his horse and joins the ranks. That symbolic move is exactly what you’d expect from someone with his personality. Of course we don’t know how ‘long’ he fought before moving back to direct his army from behind. ;)

Joe