• We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.

Timpino

First Lieutenant
44 Badges
Mar 3, 2004
240
0
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife Pre-Order
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Shadowrun: Dragonfall
  • Shadowrun: Hong Kong
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Imperator: Rome Sign Up
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Stellaris: Necroids
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Knights of Pen and Paper 2
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Field Marshal
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Steel Division: Normandy 44
  • Steel Division: Normandy 44 Deluxe Edition
  • Surviving Mars
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
Vincent Julien said:
You fiend, what have you done with him? :eek:

He sits in my basement with his eyes opened up like in Clockwork Orange watching a single clip showing a man saying "More" and then grins, repeated until the end of times, or until the TV breaks.
 

The Yogi

Evil Genius
40 Badges
Dec 16, 2002
3.287
25
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • 500k Club
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Stellaris: Nemesis
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Darkest Hour
  • Diplomacy
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • For The Glory
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • 200k Club
Dhatori: I have absolutely no idea, the site where I found it didn't say. And I will (did)!

elbasto, Lord_Robertus: Indeed.

Uncle Joe, cthulhu, Vincent Julien, Zuckergußgebäck, Meltdown1986, Jimmy, poppy7143: Thanks!

Seidita, Petrarca: This is a problem. One thing is extrapolating changes as compared to historical 1936 scenario, a whole other correcting errors of that same scenario. I do agree that 250 American IC seems a bit smallish - does anyone know why it was reduced so much? I'd say that at least 400-500 IC seems more in balance with reality.

Morpheus506: Good catch! The question is rather how much future Lenin and Stalin will have now that Trotsky is in power. Maybe he'll be more merciful than his real life counterpart...

Evans: Amazing how expectations change your perception! I read the text saying that the poster was anti-semitic and SAW a star of David where there was in fact a five-pointed one. I'm not certain if the poster is otherwise anti-semitic or not.

Virgiltchicken, Evans, Archangel85: Indeed, there was no Easter Rebellion since Britain was not at war (ie no Irish lads killed at Gallipoli, no apparent British weakness), so Irealand remains under the paw of the British lion.

Neroon: Thanks! Zhukov, like many of his countrymen who joined the Red Army ended up as exiles in the USSR after it was driven out of their homeland by the Central Powers.

Timpino : Ask, and you shall receive!

Odysseus, Evil Capitalist : Thanks Odysseus, and welcome onboard. Regarding your gripe, as Evil Capitalist points out, people tend to believe what they want to believe, particularily if they're uneducated (like the persistent rumour that Israel was behind 9/11). Interesting fact about the percieved 2 Red Armies.

Timpino : He's getting his just dessert, but pleae let him go. The boards are not the same without him. :)
 
Last edited:

The Yogi

Evil Genius
40 Badges
Dec 16, 2002
3.287
25
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • 500k Club
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Stellaris: Nemesis
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Darkest Hour
  • Diplomacy
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • For The Glory
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • 200k Club

Chapter VIII – The French Revolution

The French Socialist Party, led by Jean Jaurès, had been strongly opposed to war with Germany in July of 1914. Because of this, a fanatic nationalist assassinated Jaurés on July 31st, creating a powerful martyr for the left-wing and anti-war cause. All other parties, including the social-liberal Radicals who had so far championed improved relations with Germany, united in a coalition Government named “l’Union Sacrée” (the Holy Union).

After the failure of the French 1916 offensive and the Entente defeats in Russia and Serbia, the Prime Minister, former socialist Aristide Briand, proposed making peace overtures to Germany to bring an end to the war. He was however violently opposed by Georges Clemenceau, who argued that with Russia defeated, France could never hope to regain Alsace and Lorraine, and would be at the mercy of a strengthened Germany. It was now or never, if the lost lands were to be regained. A bitter political feud ensued, where Briand, supported by the Socialists was opposed by the Conservative with the Army (represented by the Generals, the opinion of the ordinary Poilu was markedly different from theirs) in support. The Radical party was deeply divided on the issue along its left-right axis. In the end the Union Sacrée (Coalition Government) could not be preserved, and Georges Clemenceau formed a new Conservative-dominated Government bent on carrying on the war. As a last ditch attempt to prevent this, a General strike called by the Socialist Unions was broken up by military force.

When the final French offensive had failed by the end of June, a new Government crisis was in the making, but the German counter-offensive and break-through instead caused the re-formation of the coalition Government. Given the military disaster and looming defeat, the Socialists seemed vindicated in their anti-war stance. On July 31st of 1917 (a ten-day before the end of the war), the anniversary of the murder of Jean Jaurès was wildly celebrated by out of control soldiers who blamed Clemenceau’s government for the lost and senseless war. The Army was already disintegrating, with officers being shot in improvised mutinies, but before this state of anarchy could degenerate into open revolution, the Government accepted the inevitable and signed the preliminary armistice of August 11.

A sense of anti-climax reigned as a profoundly demoralised nation awaited the result of the peace negotiations at Versailles. There was much resentment directed against Britain for “abandoning” her allies, but also much regret among the ordinary people – if only France had not declared war! One and a half million dead, economical ruin, defeat… it could all have been avoided!

When the news of the October Revolution reached France, radical elements in the Socialist Party began to consider how to bring about a similar situation in France, but the time was still not ripe. Just a few weeks later, the Peace of Versailles was signed, its harsh conditions sparking a wave of riots, strikes and protests. As if to pour oil on the flames, the Government of Clemenceau announced dramatic tax raises in order to begin to pay the huge war reparations to Germany. Suddenly Socialism and Patriotism seemed to find common ground – striking was seen as a way to deny the German enemy their loot. Demobilized soldiers refused to hand over their weapons, instead forming Soldier Soviets after the Russian fashion to guard the factories and support the striking workers. It wasn’t long before regions of France were taken over by Red Guards, proclaiming diverse “Communes”, in the tradition of the Paris Commune of 1871 in Lyon, Marseille, Bordeaux… the post-Versailles remnants of the Army were soon trading shots with these paramilitary communists in the streets. Realising the country was on the verge of Revolution, Clemenceau stepped down, calling for elections in the hope that the new Government would have the legitimacy to reinstate order.

Nacionales_Requetes.jpg

Communist militia, southern France, late 1918

Whatever doubts could have remained about the outcome of the elections were dissipated when the alleged assassin of Jean Jaurès, young ultranationalist Raoul Villain, was acquitted of the charges of murder in March of 1918. This perceived (and probably actual) perversion of justice led to an unparalleled mobilization of the political left with more riots, marches and strikes. The General Assembly elections of spring 1918 were thus held in an atmosphere of fear and disorder and led to an overwhelming majority for the Socialist Party, which in its ranks encompassed from moderate Social Democrats to outright revolutionaries of the Bolshevik kind. The new Government, with Socialist leader Léon Blum as Prime Minister, was however dominated by the more moderate elements and it began a policy of nationalising industries, purportedly to be better able to pay the reparations without bleeding the taxpayers white. In order cover the expenses of wages to the millions of new state employees, Blum wasn’t shy about letting the bill printing presses work.

The nationalisation program backfired badly. The Socialists voters wanted better wages, working conditions and power over their place of work. Instead they found that they now had a single immensely powerful employer, were working long shifts for savagely taxed and nominally frozen wages that were being eaten up by inflation. As monthly payments on the war reparations succeeded each other through 1918, the economical and political situation deteriorated steadily. Comintern agents were everywhere, infiltrating trade unions and army barracks. Also, more openly challenging the power of the Blum Government were the anarchists, with several foreign notables aiding their cause, such as Nestor Makhno, Errico Malatesta and the Grand Old Man himself, Prince Kropotkin.

kropotkin.jpg

Prince Peter Kropotkin

While the latter could speak anywhere, openly inciting the masses to revolution thanks to his enormous prestige, Makhno and Malatesta were organizing anarchist militias. Wise from his experiences after the October revolution, Makhno prepared his French followers to be ready to fight Bourgeoisie and Communist Party alike.

In September of 1919, order had broken down completely. In metropolitan France, the Army had all but disintegrated into diverse militias who helped themselves to the materiel stored in the military depots (far more, by the way, than allowed for by the Versailles treaty). The Police was powerless against the far better armed militias, of which the strongest one, inevitably, was the Communist, labelled Armée Populaire et Revolutionaire de Liberation (APRL) or Red Guards for short.

The anarchists were the direct cause of the implosion of the III Republic. Emboldened by the weakness of the hated state, their ALAC militias (Armée de Libération Anarcho-Communiste) began seizing farms, shops, factories, every kind of medium and small enterprise from their legal owners, often topping of theft with murder of the dispossessed (for being class enemies). Desperate to restore order, Blum accepted the Communist offer to use their Red Guard militias in the service of the Government. He must have known the offer would come with strings attached, other than naming Communist ministers of Defence and Police, but he had little choice. Even some junior parts of the traditionally right wing officer corps were joining the Red Guards, preferring Red order and discipline to Black anarchy. The army itself existed only on paper, the Navy was in the hands of Red sailors organised by Communist commissars and the Police remained impotent for the time being.

Just as Makhno had feared, when fighting erupted it was between the ALAC and the Red Guards. Savage street battles raged in every major city of France, but the Communists held all the aces. They had effectively infiltrated the army and the state, and could command its vast usurped resources while the anarchists had steered as far as possible from any involvement in the state they despised so. Thus it was in the name of maintaining law and order that the highly organized and disciplined cohorts of the Red Guards bloodily crushed the Anarchist uprising during the autumn and winter of 1919. By January 1920, the Anarchist leaders had abandoned all hope and fled the country – Kropotkin and Malatesta to London and Makhno back to the continued fighting in the Ukraine, where Fyodor Schtuss had commanded in his absence.

By that time, the Government had gradually become wholly Communist, with Leon Blum as a powerless figurehead. With order re-established and the tools of power firmly in their hands, the Communist Party of France (formed after the formal secession of the left wing of the Socialist Party in early 1919) outlawed all other parties, redrafted the constitution and established the Dictatorship of the Proletariat, all in a perfectly legal fashion, given that they had almost complete control of the General Assembly.

During the crisis and fighting, France had ceased to pay its war reparations. As a result, Germany seized more of her colonies, with the tacit approval of the more traditionally minded colonial officers who were aghast of developments in the motherland. Not wanting to be outdone, Britain acted in the same fashion, capturing even more French colonial lands. Paris protested loudly, but could do nothing. Tunisia and Algeria were however garrisoned by regular French Army troops which remained loyal to the Government (not the least because their soldiers had served in the trench war and had been radicalised as well) and by 1922 they lingered as the sole remnants of the French colonial Empire.
 
Last edited:

unmerged(7845)

Mad Scientist
Feb 18, 2002
297
0
A most plausible account of the French Revolution you made there Yogi! One merely wonders why the world tried to intervene in Russia, while standing by idly in the case of France?
 

The Yogi

Evil Genius
40 Badges
Dec 16, 2002
3.287
25
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • 500k Club
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Stellaris: Nemesis
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Darkest Hour
  • Diplomacy
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • For The Glory
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • 200k Club
Meltdown1986 said:
A most plausible account of the French Revolution you made there Yogi! One merely wonders why the world tried to intervene in Russia, while standing by idly in the case of France?

Two reasons - they were busy intervening in Russia :) and second, the Communists became the Governement, rather than deposing it, so intervention would have been against the legal government of France, over an internal issue. This was anathema to the reigning system of diplomacy, which upheld sovereignity above all things.
 

Neroon

Alyt
54 Badges
Mar 28, 2003
497
7
Visit site
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Stellaris
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Surviving Mars
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic
  • Surviving Mars: Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Humble Paradox Bundle
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Shadowrun: Dragonfall
  • Shadowrun: Hong Kong
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall Deluxe edition
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall Premium edition
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall - Revelations
  • Majesty 2 Collection
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • East India Company Collection
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Knights of Pen and Paper +1 Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Sword of the Stars II
  • Teleglitch: Die More Edition
  • Victoria 2
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • Warlock 2: The Exiled
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
Finally an update!
Very good idea about the French Communists "rescuing" France. Thats the best way to take over the gouvernement IMO, portray yourself as the lesser evil and have the frightened populace hand over power to you.
So are the British and the Germans going to set up some gouvernement in exile or annex the colonies? From your account it seems the latter.
BTW it might have been interesting for your AAR if Indochina had both stayed with France AND under the control of the new management (very unlikely of course since it was undoubtetly the most valuable French possession), since then Ho Chi Min might have become one of histories greatest Anti - Communist heroes! :)
From what i know about him he was mainly interested in independence with ideology a distant second on his priorities list.
 

Evans

General
87 Badges
Apr 26, 2004
2.307
0
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • The Kings Crusade
  • Magicka
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Penumbra - Black Plague
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Semper Fi
  • Sengoku
  • Sword of the Stars
  • Sword of the Stars II
  • Victoria 2
  • Iron Cross
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Pride of Nations
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Mount & Blade: With Fire and Sword
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings III: Royal Edition
  • Diplomacy
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Deus Vult
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Heir to the Throne
And with the Anarchists gone no power to the workers, a terrible shame for France.. I wonder how this will affect Catalonia? Spain was always an Anarchist stronghold.
 

Faeelin

Field Marshal
79 Badges
Dec 15, 2001
7.281
2.479
Visit site
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Surviving Mars
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • For The Glory
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • March of the Eagles
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Victoria 2
The Yogi said:
Two reasons - they were busy intervening in Russia :) and second, the Communists became the Governement, rather than deposing it, so intervention would have been against the legal government of France, over an internal issue. This was anathema to the reigning system of diplomacy, which upheld sovereignity above all things.

Ah, then I look foward to seein why they didn't intervene in Austria-Hungary.
 

unmerged(7845)

Mad Scientist
Feb 18, 2002
297
0
The Yogi said:
Two reasons - they were busy intervening in Russia :) and second, the Communists became the Governement, rather than deposing it, so intervention would have been against the legal government of France, over an internal issue. This was anathema to the reigning system of diplomacy, which upheld sovereignity above all things.

I see! This explains then also the seizure of French colonies!
Vive la france! Vive la revolution!
 
Jul 29, 2002
4.904
6
The Yogi said:
Two reasons - they were busy intervening in Russia :) and second, the Communists became the Governement, rather than deposing it, so intervention would have been against the legal government of France, over an internal issue. This was anathema to the reigning system of diplomacy, which upheld sovereignity above all things.

Oh. And then there's the small matter that intervening in France would have likely triggered The Great War MkII.

Great update! More! MORE! :)

As for Austria Hungary; I'm not sure of the timescale, but I imagine this really only kicks off at about 1930-32 at the earliest, so both Germany and the USSR (and France, come to that.) are rearmed by then. My perception is that the civil war/war of liberation (Delete as applicable.) there remains largely an internal matter because neither the USSR or Germany wants to directly intervene, for fear of provoking the other and setting off another Great War. However, both assist through supplies and military advisors. (Which we have already seen.) Trotsky insists on sending plentiful amounts of aid, and the USSR sends some good generals like Tuckahevsky et al, while Austria and Germany's officer corps and tactical mentality remain static. (Which we have also already seen, and which is probably why the reds are doing so well in '36.)

A more intense and vigourous version of the Spanish Civil War of reality, basically.

Sorry. Don't want to write Yogi's story for him. :D
 
Last edited:

Mind Elemental

Second Lieutenant
98 Badges
Oct 24, 2004
134
6
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Rome Gold
  • Teleglitch: Die More Edition
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • Warlock 2: The Exiled
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Divine Wind
  • Cities in Motion
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Magicka
  • Majesty 2
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
This is a really awesome alternative timeline. It, along with Advantages without Obligations, and America and a World in Ruins, constitute my "holy trinity" of Paradox-inspired or -derived alternate histories. :)
 
Jul 29, 2002
4.904
6
Mind Elemental said:
This is a really awesome alternative timeline. It, along with Advantages without Obligations, and America and a World in Ruins, constitute my "holy trinity" of Paradox-inspired or -derived alternate histories. :)

You've obviously never read Where the Iron Crosses Grow! :D
 

Morpheus506

The Little Corporal
26 Badges
Feb 22, 2003
4.240
2
Visit site
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Shadowrun: Dragonfall
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Surviving Mars
  • Stellaris
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • 500k Club
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Deus Vult
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
Or To Stand Against the Night! :D
 

Mind Elemental

Second Lieutenant
98 Badges
Oct 24, 2004
134
6
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Rome Gold
  • Teleglitch: Die More Edition
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • Warlock 2: The Exiled
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Divine Wind
  • Cities in Motion
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Magicka
  • Majesty 2
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
Vincent Julien said:
You've obviously never read Where the Iron Crosses Grow! :D

Actually, I have.

With all due respect to Yogi, WtICG is an absolutely stellar AAR... but as an alt. history, well. How many "the Nazis win" AHs have there been?

I have not, however, read To Stand against the Night yet.