The E3 Map Project for Darkest Hour - 1000's of New Provinces

[Vaximillian]

Oh no, I don't ask for dots or dashes. Those are even worse. I was asking for weakening of that underlying shadow, or for making it narrower.

 

[novapaddy]

Awesome work mumia!

Can I suggest...

You start thinking about releasing a province ID list, so we can all get working on converting mods. AND THEN, finish the map... ?

EDIT: Question:

There is an E3 map over on the AOD forum, version 0.5.

Would the province ID's on this map bear any relation to your current map? Just an idea to work on in the meantime if the answer to the first suggestion is negative.

Thanks

 

[Thure]

So... Eventually the Greater Philippines claims in North Borneo?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Borneo_dispute

And could you split Hoa Binh in Northern Vietnam to make this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sip_Song_Chau_Tai

And the Viet Minh controlled area in Laos:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Indochina,1954.jpg

Edit:

And I found this map of the Western Ukrainian People's Republic:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/West-Ukraine_1918.jpg

Could you add the smaller part southeast of Carpathia? Eventually it's too small... It could be Poienile de sub Munte... Or would Borșa be in this territory?

 

[mumia]

Ta-dammm DH-E3Map v0.9 (uploaded 16. November 2013):

https://mega.co.nz/#!lUhV0SYJ!JxJHylheWh8SjcWmGMVG1QhyuVd8-ItkES2sHQRPy9A
or
http://www.gamefront.com/files/23854020/DH-E3Map+v0.9.7z
or
http://egofiles.com/s786rjDUyKSUpam1

 

[Marshall18]

Ta-dammm DH-E3Map v0.9 (uploaded 16. November 2013):

https://mega.co.nz/#!lUhV0SYJ!JxJHylheWh8SjcWmGMVG1QhyuVd8-ItkES2sHQRPy9A
or
http://www.gamefront.com/files/23854020/DH-E3Map+v0.9.7z
or
http://egofiles.com/s786rjDUyKSUpam1

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!

Thank you for all your work

Downloading now

 

[Sephy]

omg Mumia you are my hero!

 

[CocoBZ]

Ta-dammm DH-E3Map v0.9 (uploaded 16. November 2013):

https://mega.co.nz/#!lUhV0SYJ!JxJHylheWh8SjcWmGMVG1QhyuVd8-ItkES2sHQRPy9A
or
http://www.gamefront.com/files/23854020/DH-E3Map+v0.9.7z
or
http://egofiles.com/s786rjDUyKSUpam1

Yes, yes, yes! Thank you for uploading this before I'd finish my work on the MDS map!

 

[Thure]

YEEEEEEEES! That's great. Thank you!

Edit: You should rename the Jan Mayen province. Currently it's called Olonkinbyen. But if the names on the map should be the ones of 1936 it should be Eldsternetten.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Jan_Mayen-Stations-fr1.png

 

[Sephy]

anyway im currently on vacation and working on converting this mod to 1933 scenario, with many improvements! if anyone interested in helping pm me

 

[Arturius]

@mumia: Great! Btw, have you anything done or are you going to do regarding MP, IC or resources? And you still didn't answered my question if you have a quick method to make those static flags. Thank you.

 

[CocoBZ]

Before I forget: can you create a ghost province (or is there one already?) in the style of DH Prov1012?

 

[novapaddy]

anyway im currently on vacation and working on converting this mod to 1933 scenario, with many improvements! if anyone interested in helping pm me

How are you converting the files when you don't have a province ID list?

Because IF there was a list, we could ask Bizon to alter his province ID program and I'm sure he would... and we'd then have a program to all this tedious work automatically, and instead of DOING the work, you would be just checking the work.

Would save about 85% of the workload. That's why I keep asking for a province ID list.

 

[Kretoxian]

How are you converting the files when you don't have a province ID list?

Because IF there was a list, we could ask Bizon to alter his province ID program and I'm sure he would... and we'd then have a program to all this tedious work automatically, and instead of DOING the work, you would be just checking the work.

Would save about 85% of the workload. That's why I keep asking for a province ID list.

You could use E3's revolt.txt as an improvised ID list, i guess...

 

[novapaddy]

You could use E3's revolt.txt as an improvised ID list, i guess...

Ok I hadn't thought of that. Cheers

 

[Sephy]

copy paste id from 1936 to 1933

 

[Leobama Bama]

Revillagigedo should be mountain terrain.

 

[LouiST]

mumia:
I looked for the names for Sinkiang, most of them have Uyghur names. Tadjik names are not available so far.

Here's the list:
Chinese (Pinyin)/ Uyghur / Kyrgyz / Kazakh / Mongol / Tadjik

1. 烏恰縣 (Wūqià) / Uluqqat / Uluuçat
2. 阿圖什縣 (Ātúshí)/ Atux / Artyš
3. 疏附縣 (Shūfù)/ K̂äxk̂är Konaxäĥär /
4. 疏勒縣 (Shūlè)/ K̂äxk̂är Yêngixäĥär /
5. 英吉沙縣 (Yīngjíshā)/ Yêngisar
6. 蒲犁縣 (Púlí)/ Taxk̂urk̂an (or historically) Sarikol /
7. 澤普縣 (Zépŭ)/ Poskam /
8. 莎車縣 (Shāchē)/ Yäkän /
9. 麥蓋提縣 (Màigàití)/ Mäkit /
10. 岳普湖縣 (Yuèpŭhú)/ Yopurĝa /
11. 伽師縣 (Jiāshī)/ Päyzivat /
12. 巴楚縣 (Bāchŭ)/ Maralbêxi /
13. 阿合齊縣 (Āhĕqí)/ Ak̂qi /
14. 柯坪縣 (Kēpíng) / Kälpin /
15. 烏什縣 (Wūshí) / Uqturpan /
16. 葉城 (Yèchéng) / K̂aĝilik̂ /
17. 皮山縣 (Píshān) / Guma /
18. 墨玉縣 (Mòyù) / K̂arak̂ax /
19. 和闐縣 (Hétián) / Hotän /
20. 洛浦縣 (Luòpǔ) / Lop /
21. 策勒縣 (Cèlè) / Qhira /
22. 于闐縣 (Yútián) / Kêriyä /
23. 民豐縣 (Mínfēng) / Niyä /
24. 且末縣 (Qiěmò) / Qärqän /
25. 婼羌縣 (Ruòqiāng) / Qak̂ilik̂ /
26. 尉犁縣 (Yùlí) / Lopnur /
27. 輪台縣 (Lúntái) / Bügür /
28. 沙雅縣 (Shāyǎ) / Xayar /
29. 阿克蘇縣 (Ākèsū) / Ak̂su /
30. 阿瓦提縣 (Āwǎtí) / Avat /
31. 溫宿縣 (Wēnsù) / Onsu /
32. 新和縣 (Xīnhé) / Tok̂su /
33. 拜城縣 (Bàichéng) / Bay /
34. 庫車縣 (Kùchē) / Kuqar /
35. 庫爾勒縣 (Kù'ěrlè) / Korla /
36. 和靖縣 (Héjìng) / Hêjing /
37. 焉耆縣 (Yānqí) / Yänji /
38. 和碩縣 (Héshuò) / Hoxut /
39. 托克遜縣 (Tuōkèxùn) / Tok̂sun /
40. 吐魯番縣 (Tǔlǔfān) / Turpan /
41. 鄯善縣 (Shànshàn) / Piqan
42. 七角井設治局 (Qījiăojĭng) / (cant find other names for this one)
43. 哈密縣 (Hāmì) / K̂umul /
44. 伊吾縣 (Yīwú) / Ara Türük /
45. 鎮西縣 (Zhènxī) / Barköl / / Barköl (Cannot find the old name of this one in any language, but Barköl is the name used today)
46. 木壘河縣 (Mùlěihé) / Mori / Morï
47. 奇台縣 (Qítái) / Guqung /
48. 孚遠縣 (Fúyuăn) / Jimisar /
49. 阜康縣 (Fùkāng) / Fukang /
50. 乾德縣 (Qiándé) /
51. 迪化縣 (Díhuà) / Ürümqi / / Ürimji / Örömč /
52. 昌吉縣 (Chāngjí) / Sanji /
53. 景化縣 (Jĭnghuà) / K̂utubi /
54. 綏來縣 (Suílái) / Manas /
55. 沙灣縣 (Shāwān) / Savän /
56. 烏蘇縣 (Wūsū) / Usu /
57. 精河縣 (Jīnghé) / Jing / / / Žinxè
58. 鞏哈縣 (Gŏnghā) / Nilk̂a / / Nïlka
59. 特克斯縣 (Tèkèsī) / Têkäs / / Tekes
60. 昭蘇縣 (Zhāosū) / Mongĝulkürä / / Moñğolküre /
61. 新源縣 (Xīnyuán) / Künäs / / Küñes /
62. 伊寧縣 (Yīníng) / Ĝulja / / Qulja /
63. 寧西縣 (Níngxī) / Qapqal / / Şapşal-Sïbo /
64. 綏定縣 (Suídìng) /
65. 霍城縣 (Huòchéng) / K̂orqas / Qorğas /
66. 溫泉縣 (Wēnquán) / Arixang / / / Rašaan
67. 博樂縣 (Bólè) / Börtala / / / Bortal
68. 裕民縣 (Yùmín) / Qaĝantok̂ay /
69. 塔城縣 (Tǎchéng) / Qöqäk / / Şäweşek /
70. 額敏縣 (Émǐn) / Dörbiljin /
71. 和豐縣 (Héfēng) / K̂obuk̂sar /
72. 福海縣 (Fúhǎi) / Burultok̂ay / / Bwrıltoğay / Buuraltoxoj /
73. 富蘊縣 (Fùyùn) / Koktokay / / Köktoğay / Xöxtoxoj
74. 布爾根設治局 (Bù'ěrgēn) / / / / Bulgan
75. 青河縣 (Qīnghé) / Qinggil / / Şiñgil / Čingèl
76. 耳里匱設治局 (Ĕrlĭguì)/ / / / Ölgii
77. 承化縣 (Chénghuà) / Altay / / Altay
78. 布爾津縣 (Bù'ěrjīn) / Burqin / / Bwırşın /
79. 吉木乃縣 (Jímùnǎi) / Jêminäy / / Jemeney /
80. 哈巴河縣 (Hābāhé) / K̂aba / / Qaba /

I also found this demographic map from website Independence for East Turkistan. Demographic map in the 30s cant be found, but this should be close enough.

 

[LouiST]

Oops... the list looks messy, I think I should put them all in a table



Edited: mumia, you can download the word file from Dropbox.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bcqpmd9a6yidlmn/Sinkiang province names.docx
First time using it. Tell me if there's any problem downloading.

 

[mumia]

As promised a long time ago, here is my psd file with IDs, rivers, borders and colorscales layers included, I suppose it could be very useful for every one who wants edit E3Map (source maps not included, it would be then around 2 GB psd file...):

http://www.gamefront.com/files/23862493/E3Map+-+map+files+v0.9.psd.7z

*121,55 MB compressed, 444 MB extracted

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Awesome work mumia!

Can I suggest...

You start thinking about releasing a province ID list, so we can all get working on converting mods. AND THEN, finish the map... ?

EDIT: Question:

There is an E3 map over on the AOD forum, version 0.5.

Would the province ID's on this map bear any relation to your current map? Just an idea to work on in the meantime if the answer to the first suggestion is negative.

Thanks

1.
I could start working at ID map, but to not waste more time some one could just take care about editing text files, mostly province.csv (terrain, climate, resources, manpower, industrial capacity etc.), province_names.csv where lakes and all other sea-zones need correct names and of course adj_defs.csv file where all rivers are defined. Currently drawing map is freezed and I won't change province borders or add new provinces till we could have playable 1.0 version. Of course you can still make suggestions, but they won't be included in next E3Map version.

2.
E3Map version 0.5 uploaded to AoD forum was as far I remember the last released version working with old HoI2-DD-Arma and it served as a base for further works at DH version so most of the province IDs in that v0.5 should be compatible with DH version, but remember that HoI2-DD-Arma/AoD was designed when the game till had province and connections limits so it had around 5000 less provinces than current DH version. alo it's really nice to see that some one is still working at my old map (thank you Fürstbischof).

YEEEEEEEES! That's great. Thank you!

Edit: You should rename the Jan Mayen province. Currently it's called Olonkinbyen. But if the names on the map should be the ones of 1936 it should be Eldsternetten.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Jan_Mayen-Stations-fr1.png

Added to my to-do list.

@mumia: Great! Btw, have you anything done or are you going to do regarding MP, IC or resources? And you still didn't answered my question if you have a quick method to make those static flags. Thank you.

I didn't touch province.csv file yet, for me editing so huge excel file is a bit frightening thing so I definitely need help here. There are no quick method to make those static file, i just always copy and paste tiny 28 x 18 pixels flag 25 times and add black outline, that's all, unfortunately it takes some time.

Before I forget: can you create a ghost province (or is there one already?) in the style of DH Prov1012?

Currently there are no any ghost provinces in E3Map as all listed in province.csv file IDs are used on the map, but I plan to add in future final version some free IDS which could be reused in game (how many should be added?), it's really not a problem.

mumia:
I looked for the names for Sinkiang, most of them have Uyghur names. Tadjik names are not available so far.

Here's the list:
Chinese (Pinyin)/ Uyghur / Kyrgyz / Kazakh / Mongol / Tadjik

1. 烏恰縣 (Wūqià) / Uluqqat / Uluuçat
2. 阿圖什縣 (Ātúshí)/ Atux / Artyš
3. 疏附縣 (Shūfù)/ K̂äxk̂är Konaxäĥär /
4. 疏勒縣 (Shūlè)/ K̂äxk̂är Yêngixäĥär /
5. 英吉沙縣 (Yīngjíshā)/ Yêngisar
6. 蒲犁縣 (Púlí)/ Taxk̂urk̂an (or historically) Sarikol /
7. 澤普縣 (Zépŭ)/ Poskam /
8. 莎車縣 (Shāchē)/ Yäkän /
9. 麥蓋提縣 (Màigàití)/ Mäkit /
10. 岳普湖縣 (Yuèpŭhú)/ Yopurĝa /
11. 伽師縣 (Jiāshī)/ Päyzivat /
12. 巴楚縣 (Bāchŭ)/ Maralbêxi /
13. 阿合齊縣 (Āhĕqí)/ Ak̂qi /
14. 柯坪縣 (Kēpíng) / Kälpin /
15. 烏什縣 (Wūshí) / Uqturpan /
16. 葉城 (Yèchéng) / K̂aĝilik̂ /
17. 皮山縣 (Píshān) / Guma /
18. 墨玉縣 (Mòyù) / K̂arak̂ax /
19. 和闐縣 (Hétián) / Hotän /
20. 洛浦縣 (Luòpǔ) / Lop /
21. 策勒縣 (Cèlè) / Qhira /
22. 于闐縣 (Yútián) / Kêriyä /
23. 民豐縣 (Mínfēng) / Niyä /
24. 且末縣 (Qiěmò) / Qärqän /
25. 婼羌縣 (Ruòqiāng) / Qak̂ilik̂ /
26. 尉犁縣 (Yùlí) / Lopnur /
27. 輪台縣 (Lúntái) / Bügür /
28. 沙雅縣 (Shāyǎ) / Xayar /
29. 阿克蘇縣 (Ākèsū) / Ak̂su /
30. 阿瓦提縣 (Āwǎtí) / Avat /
31. 溫宿縣 (Wēnsù) / Onsu /
32. 新和縣 (Xīnhé) / Tok̂su /
33. 拜城縣 (Bàichéng) / Bay /
34. 庫車縣 (Kùchē) / Kuqar /
35. 庫爾勒縣 (Kù'ěrlè) / Korla /
36. 和靖縣 (Héjìng) / Hêjing /
37. 焉耆縣 (Yānqí) / Yänji /
38. 和碩縣 (Héshuò) / Hoxut /
39. 托克遜縣 (Tuōkèxùn) / Tok̂sun /
40. 吐魯番縣 (Tǔlǔfān) / Turpan /
41. 鄯善縣 (Shànshàn) / Piqan
42. 七角井設治局 (Qījiăojĭng) / (cant find other names for this one)
43. 哈密縣 (Hāmì) / K̂umul /
44. 伊吾縣 (Yīwú) / Ara Türük /
45. 鎮西縣 (Zhènxī) / Barköl / / Barköl (Cannot find the old name of this one in any language, but Barköl is the name used today)
46. 木壘河縣 (Mùlěihé) / Mori / Morï
47. 奇台縣 (Qítái) / Guqung /
48. 孚遠縣 (Fúyuăn) / Jimisar /
49. 阜康縣 (Fùkāng) / Fukang /
50. 乾德縣 (Qiándé) /
51. 迪化縣 (Díhuà) / Ürümqi / / Ürimji / Örömč /
52. 昌吉縣 (Chāngjí) / Sanji /
53. 景化縣 (Jĭnghuà) / K̂utubi /
54. 綏來縣 (Suílái) / Manas /
55. 沙灣縣 (Shāwān) / Savän /
56. 烏蘇縣 (Wūsū) / Usu /
57. 精河縣 (Jīnghé) / Jing / / / Žinxè
58. 鞏哈縣 (Gŏnghā) / Nilk̂a / / Nïlka
59. 特克斯縣 (Tèkèsī) / Têkäs / / Tekes
60. 昭蘇縣 (Zhāosū) / Mongĝulkürä / / Moñğolküre /
61. 新源縣 (Xīnyuán) / Künäs / / Küñes /
62. 伊寧縣 (Yīníng) / Ĝulja / / Qulja /
63. 寧西縣 (Níngxī) / Qapqal / / Şapşal-Sïbo /
64. 綏定縣 (Suídìng) /
65. 霍城縣 (Huòchéng) / K̂orqas / Qorğas /
66. 溫泉縣 (Wēnquán) / Arixang / / / Rašaan
67. 博樂縣 (Bólè) / Börtala / / / Bortal
68. 裕民縣 (Yùmín) / Qaĝantok̂ay /
69. 塔城縣 (Tǎchéng) / Qöqäk / / Şäweşek /
70. 額敏縣 (Émǐn) / Dörbiljin /
71. 和豐縣 (Héfēng) / K̂obuk̂sar /
72. 福海縣 (Fúhǎi) / Burultok̂ay / / Bwrıltoğay / Buuraltoxoj /
73. 富蘊縣 (Fùyùn) / Koktokay / / Köktoğay / Xöxtoxoj
74. 布爾根設治局 (Bù'ěrgēn) / / / / Bulgan
75. 青河縣 (Qīnghé) / Qinggil / / Şiñgil / Čingèl
76. 耳里匱設治局 (Ĕrlĭguì)/ / / / Ölgii
77. 承化縣 (Chénghuà) / Altay / / Altay
78. 布爾津縣 (Bù'ěrjīn) / Burqin / / Bwırşın /
79. 吉木乃縣 (Jímùnǎi) / Jêminäy / / Jemeney /
80. 哈巴河縣 (Hābāhé) / K̂aba / / Qaba /

I also found this demographic map from website Independence for East Turkistan. Demographic map in the 30s cant be found, but this should be close enough.

Oops... the list looks messy, I think I should put them all in a table



Edited: mumia, you can download the word file from Dropbox.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bcqpmd9a6yidlmn/Sinkiang province names.docx
First time using it. Tell me if there's any problem downloading.

Thank you very much. It looks like it could be good idea to use every where in whole Sinkiang Uyghur names to not make too much mess there. I'll try to make something useful with those 80 names and combine them to allow all those historical border changes in Sinkiang from 1932 to 1937 based on maps you posted some time ago.

Also I found those two ethnic maps, but i don't know what time period they represent, one looks like before, and the other like after sinicization of the western provinces:

 

[Thure]

As promised a long time ago, here is my psd file with IDs, rivers, borders and colorscales layers included, I suppose it could be very useful for every one who wants edit E3Map (source maps not included, it would be then around 2 GB psd file...):

http://www.gamefront.com/files/23862493/E3Map+-+map+files+v0.9.psd.7z

*121,55 MB compressed, 444 MB extracted

Is it just for me unavailable at the moment? Could you upload it somewhere else too? Hm... Or I have really to wait.