Someone to put the Balkans?
Do you mean to post screen shot of the Balkans?
-
We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.
Do you mean to post screen shot of the Balkans?
Want to know a funny piece of data? There are some very small islets in the Pacific Ocean that even nowadays they legally belong to Spain (some of them are even inhabited). However as Spain does not exercise sovereignty over them, they are not considered to be formally Spanish territory.
These four islands are known by the names of Guedes, Coroa, Pescadores and Ocea and it seems that they were neither part of the German-Spanish Treaty of 1899, thanks to which the Spanish islands of the Pacific were sold to Germany or the treaty of Paris in 1898 which put to an end the Spanish American war.
All this was discovered in 1949 by a jurist working in the Spanish foreign ministry, Emilio Pastor y Santos, who after revising both treaties he realized that these expressly refered to Cuba, Philippines, Puerto Rico, Guam, Palau, Marianas and Carolinas and these small islands were forgotten in the treaties because they are not part of any of those group of islands.
As their economic and strategical values are minimal, i'm not saying that they should be included, however i think it's a funny piece of information to know and i just wanted to share it with you.
These four islands are known by the names of Guedes, Coroa, Pescadores and Ocea and it seems that they were neither part of the German-Spanish Treaty of 1899, thanks to which the Spanish islands of the Pacific were sold to Germany or the treaty of Paris in 1898 which put to an end the Spanish American war.
All this was discovered in 1949 by a jurist working in the Spanish foreign ministry, Emilio Pastor y Santos, who after revising both treaties he realized that these expressly refered to Cuba, Philippines, Puerto Rico, Guam, Palau, Marianas and Carolinas and these small islands were forgotten in the treaties because they are not part of any of those group of islands.
As their economic and strategical values are minimal, i'm not saying that they should be included, however i think it's a funny piece of information to know and i just wanted to share it with you.
Last edited:
We can made those islands claimed by Spain if needed.
1. Guedes - I don't know where is it. Where should I find it?
2. Coroa - looks like it's today part of the state of Pohnpei of the Federated States of Micronesia under name Kapingamarangi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coroa so I suppose it was under Japanese control in 1936 as part of South Pacific Mandate, after 1947 controlled by USA as part of Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands.
3. Pescadores - Penghu Islands, in 1936 under Japanese control, claimed by Republic of China. It's planned to be on the map.
4. Ocea - same as Guedes.
^^ I've been investigating more and i discovered that in 1949 after that guy discovered it the Francoist government considered laying a claim on those islands as soon as they entered into the UN (it was not until 1956 or '55 i don't remember, that spain joined UN), however they didn't want to piss off the Americans.
As they said, their value is minimal and i think that their economical values are very low (we are just talking about four small atolls)... however if you want to include i think i could get you their position on google maps:
1. Guedes, AKA Freewill islands, is an isolated atoll with two islands, Bras and Pegun, surrounded by an aproximatedly circular reef and located aproximately 200km north of the motley Vogelkop peninsula and the Schouten islands. It has many other denominations like Freewill islands (that's how the Britons call them because they claim that they were discovered by Philip Carteret, Davis islands or San David islands, that it's the established name in the Spanish toponymy of the XIX century. For Indonesian administration that theoretically holds sovereignty over them, are simply part of the Kepulauan Seribu - Thousand Islands chains. It's location on google maps: Pegan/Guedes/Freewill Atoll (As you can see it's microscopic).
3. Pescadores is not Penghu ,in this case, there are two islands named Pescadores, one Penghu (discovered by the Portuguese) and the other one named Pescadores in Spanish but Kapingamarangi by the locals, discovered by a Spanish explorer named Fernando de Grijalva, in 1537. In the XIX century the island was named as Greenwich atoll by the Britons and Constantine by the Frenchs.
It's location on Google maps: Pescadores atoll. It's measures are not very big... 1.1 square km, but 74 square km if you count the lagoon. BTW!! it's inhabited!!! I've read that there live around 1500 natives here.
About 2 and 4 i couldn't get their google map link because when i type their coordinates i only find sea, but in this deleted wikipedia article that it's only available in Spanish they claim to be in the coordinates of: Oroa (Coroa) or arrecife (reef in spanish) --> 147º12'E/1º0'N and Matador or Acea/Ocea they claim to be at --> 163º12'E/1º30'N
However, i repeat, they are very very small islands, and IMO they should not be worth adding unless the map is already finished and you want to nitpick on such microscopical details like these.
As they said, their value is minimal and i think that their economical values are very low (we are just talking about four small atolls)... however if you want to include i think i could get you their position on google maps:
1. Guedes, AKA Freewill islands, is an isolated atoll with two islands, Bras and Pegun, surrounded by an aproximatedly circular reef and located aproximately 200km north of the motley Vogelkop peninsula and the Schouten islands. It has many other denominations like Freewill islands (that's how the Britons call them because they claim that they were discovered by Philip Carteret, Davis islands or San David islands, that it's the established name in the Spanish toponymy of the XIX century. For Indonesian administration that theoretically holds sovereignty over them, are simply part of the Kepulauan Seribu - Thousand Islands chains. It's location on google maps: Pegan/Guedes/Freewill Atoll (As you can see it's microscopic).
3. Pescadores is not Penghu ,in this case, there are two islands named Pescadores, one Penghu (discovered by the Portuguese) and the other one named Pescadores in Spanish but Kapingamarangi by the locals, discovered by a Spanish explorer named Fernando de Grijalva, in 1537. In the XIX century the island was named as Greenwich atoll by the Britons and Constantine by the Frenchs.
It's location on Google maps: Pescadores atoll. It's measures are not very big... 1.1 square km, but 74 square km if you count the lagoon. BTW!! it's inhabited!!! I've read that there live around 1500 natives here.
About 2 and 4 i couldn't get their google map link because when i type their coordinates i only find sea, but in this deleted wikipedia article that it's only available in Spanish they claim to be in the coordinates of: Oroa (Coroa) or arrecife (reef in spanish) --> 147º12'E/1º0'N and Matador or Acea/Ocea they claim to be at --> 163º12'E/1º30'N
However, i repeat, they are very very small islands, and IMO they should not be worth adding unless the map is already finished and you want to nitpick on such microscopical details like these.
Balkans in E3Map:
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/5677/bakany.png
Maybe we will just think much more about it when I'll be redrawing Indonesia and Oceania regions.
Perfect! if you need any info about them, i'll try my best to gather more infor about them. Don't hesitate PMing me.
In the meantime, you may be interested in drawing some small group of uninhabitable islands linked to Madeira island, check it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savage_Islands
Those islands could be added, but only as part of Madeira. By the way, here is current state of my work on ID layer for China:
You also seemed to use different Romanization standards for Korea. In the North (except Gaeseong), it's McCune-Reichshauser, while the South uses Revised Romanization. Can you at least fix it so that one system is used for both Koreas.
Also what's the status of NI? Did you also manage to change their names to their Irish names, too?
Added the screens posted above to first post (Balkans, China progress), changed all screenshots to a different host for slightly faster loading
Some sceenshots
I made 2 screenscots of finland (played) as estonia
this map is best map of the world
I made 2 screenscots of finland (played) as estonia
this map is best map of the world
Another curious data, you may want to review the area of Morocco a little bit after watching this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plazas_de_soberan%C3%ADa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plazas_de_soberan%C3%ADa
Did you change "Ryojun"(at the Liaodong Peninsula) into "Lüshunkou"? As China proper, Taiwan and Manchuria all use Pinyin, having one Chinese province in Japanese looks weird.
I'm currently redrawing China so it should be fixed soon. By the way should it be Lüshunkou or just Lüshun, what's the meaning of 'kou' at the end?
PS. It looks like Bulgarion and bokili wanted to send me PM, but my PM box was full. It's cleared now.
any chance of naming the provices of east thrace (balkans) and west and north anatolia(minor asia) to their real names(like instabul= constantinople, izmir=smyrna)