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And this is what bothers me about Americans they always make everything about Trump when he has nothing at all to do with Brexit.
It's not so much that we make everything about Trump, but that he makes everything about himself, and we kind of have to at least pay attention, what with him being the world's most powerful man and all.
 

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what with him being the world's most powerful man and all.
I am not sure that is still true with low level dissent all over the government. I really wonder what he still can do...
 

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I am not sure that is still true with low level dissent all over the government. I really wonder what he still can do...
"Power" is not exactly quantifiable like mass is, but he is clearly powerful enough you can't ignore him, that's what the ability to unilaterally launch a world-destroying nuclear strike does.
 

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He needs a second man for that... I do not believe that he would find a second man to launch a nuke for shit and giggles.
 

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SecDef needs to agree...
 

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He does not need a second person, the president has unilaterally authority to use nuclear weapons.

Only technically. In practice there's a whole host of people that also need to agree with the order in order for anything to be fired.
 

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Fear is not a rational thing that translates 1:1 to actual threat.
 

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He's probably the most feared man in the world right now.

he's the american president, of course he's the most feared man in the world, to not be afraid of him is simply madness

and this is not because he's trump, it's because he's the american president, trump is not any more dangerous then obama was
 

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he's the american president, of course he's the most feared man in the world, to not be afraid of him is simply madness

and this is not because he's trump, it's because he's the american president, trump is not any more dangerous then obama was
Obama got a Nobel peace prize simply for not being George W Bush. Haven't heard of anyone nominating Trump for the Nobel prize. Trump is certainly more feared than Obama was...
 
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Obama got a Nobel peace prize simply for not being George W Bush. Haven't heard of anyone nominating Trump for the Nobel prize. Trump is certainly more feared than Obama was...

he's less good at pretending to be the nice guy, it's not part of his schtick (also I remember someone nominating him but he likely wouldn't get it as it doesn't fit in the narrative that the nobel price commitee is trying to project)

Have you not paid any attention to him at all?

like obama and bush he only seems harmless, bush pretended to be dumber, obama pretended to be down to earth and trump has the "barking dogs won't bite"-things down to a T but it's all a mask to apeal to the people (or at least the people they want to have the support of)

being the president means ordering people's deaths, all day and everyday, all for the good of the country
 

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He's probably the most feared man in the world right now.

Of course he is. He's well known, he's obviously powerful, and in most places the press is very angry at him so they are doing all they can to encourage people to be very angry and afraid. Meanwhile the genuinely scary people aren't as well known (i.e. everyone else), or are getting cover from the press, or aren't so obviously powerful. I mean - he's somewhere very high in the list of most loved people too- probably in the top 100, and within the US certainly in the top 10. Anyone with a sufficiently high public profile will get a lot of love, and a lot of hate.