The difference between a 1922 tech ship and a 1944 tech ship?

[Denkt]

How large is the difference between ship techs in HOI4? Posted pictures would be nice

 

[kviiri]

Agreed, I'd love to see ship stats.

 

[Hayro]

also lets not forget the difference between 1922 ship that upgraded to 1944 teach and ship built with 1944 tech

 

[LordOfWar16]

also lets not forget the difference between 1922 ship that upgraded to 1944 teach and ship built with 1944 tech

you cant upgrade ships to 1944 tech. All you can do is use the variant system to increase the stats of future built ships in some areas like firepower, armor, reliability and engine.

 

[Denkt]

If it is true that a variant is little bit better then the next tech, the difference between even 1940 and 1944 tech ships are great, and everything else is just outclassed completely.

 

[Maizel]

I dont think you can upgrade ships to a different variant in their class once the ship is built anyway, You can do it while it is in construction.

 

[Gort11]

Not sure if it helps with your question exactly, but a 1936 fighter appears to be twice as good as a 1933 one. (18 air attack versus 9)

 

[LordOfWar16]

It would be nice if they added the option to modernize and convert your ships later in an expansion. With modernize i dont mean magically changing an scharnhorst into an bismarck of course, but rather into its new variant with better anti-aircraft, better armor etc. As for conversion i have converting cruisers and battlecruisers into aircraft carrier, which was usually the case ̶a̶̶n̶̶d̶̶ ̶̶w̶̶a̶̶s̶̶ ̶̶p̶̶o̶̶s̶̶s̶̶i̶̶b̶̶l̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶i̶̶n̶̶ ̶̶h̶̶o̶̶i̶̶ ̶̶i̶̶i̶̶i̶̶ ̶̶i̶̶f̶̶ ̶̶i̶̶ ̶̶r̶̶e̶̶c̶̶a̶̶l̶̶l̶̶ ̶̶c̶̶o̶̶r̶̶r̶̶e̶̶c̶̶t̶̶l̶̶y̶ in mind. Never really bothered that much with the navy in HoI III tbh, since i pretty much exclusively played land/air focused nations in HoI III.

edit: turns out i was thinking of the blackICE mod with the conversion in HoI III, but that doesnt mean that it is an bad feature of course

 

[GhengisKhan]

converting ships was not possible in HoI 3. Not in the base game anyway. Maybe your thinking of a mod.

 

[LordOfWar16]

converting ships was not possible in HoI 3. Not in the base game anyway. Maybe your thinking of a mod.

i can recall an small wrench icon that allowed you to convert ships. cruisers into escort carriers, battlecruisers into carriers and you could also modernize ships. Maybe it was black ice, august storm or something like that then i dont know. Or am i mistaking something

edit: it was indeed blackICE, sorry for the confusion.

 

[Axe99]

While we couldn't convert ships in vanilla TFH HoI3, we could 'upgrade' radar and AA, and maybe ASW as well, all of which is very much historically plausible (all the pre-1936 BBs in at least the RN and USN received modern radar during the conflict, and a number of WW1 destroyers received modern ASW equipment and AA, amongst numerous other examples). It will be interesting to see how the game manages this.

 

[shri]

The Japanese did a major round of re-construction for all their BC and BB and so did the Italians, need some focus events to make this possible in game.
It worked out cheaper to upgrade a existing one than building a new one esp. for nations lacking resources like Japan and Italy.

 

[Iarodus]

I've always though the naval brigade that can be upgraded was a good way to "fix" this issue. Yes you can take the HMS Hood or the Kongo's and add brigades for a little extra boost (and then upgrade them for a little more), but it doesn't change the fact that when those vessels met an opponent designed 20 years later they didn't stand a chance. The Queen Elizabeth's were superbly designed and very expensive and so are the exception that proves the rule.

On the other hand, many a U-Boat met her fate to an upgraded 20+ year older destroyer.

 

[Hayro]

you cant upgrade ships to 1944 tech. All you can do is use the variant system to increase the stats of future built ships in some areas like firepower, armor, reliability and engine.

thats what i meant

 

[Denkt]

1944 tech ships could enjoy auto loaded main guns such as the Swedish Tre Kronor class.