The Developer Multiplayer Clash - Every Tuesday at 15:00CET
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Reviving players in a multiplayer, Brandenburg is talking about things being "Verboten" right now.
EDIT: I'll have to pound the caffeinne to watch this at 8am local, cuz I'll sleep through it otherwise if I go to bed now, lol.
EDIT: I'll have to pound the caffeinne to watch this at 8am local, cuz I'll sleep through it otherwise if I go to bed now, lol.
Mali? Is it really a good idea to give someone free reign in West Africa isolated from everyone else?
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TBH given the limited resources comparative to elsewhere in terms of base tax to fight over It's not as bad, though clustering 3 people there vs 1 in west africa does give them a leg up, especially since a 2 v 1 can flare up right away from that over two 1 v 1 scenarios. Kilwa+Ethiopia taking out Ajuraan seems likely, lol.
EDIT: Actually I'm stupid asf. Forgot there is like 3 center of trade potentially for one guy to run rampant with the income from....
Kilwa AI already ate most of Mutapa aswell, they are probably the strongest of the three atm
I thought the plan was to move the dead players to the Americas? What happened to that?
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I think the developers agree that the American nations are too weak and won't be relevant for quite a while. Instead, I expect some nations to reach Africa this session or perhaps next one. If one were to land in Africa, he'd have a monopoly there.
I'm not sure the Mali players has too much of a free range, but we'll see once he starts playing it.
I'm not sure the Mali players has too much of a free range, but we'll see once he starts playing it.
Not sure about the logic behind Mali all on its own. Obviously the Persia choice is to box Starnan in because Johan knows he will win 
Also, please please please sort out the sniffing this time...
Also, please please please sort out the sniffing this time...
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I hope they will not Punish Jake for a none existant rule.
Last Dev MP Groogy complained that the Victors Paused to peace an unconditional Surrender (Standard Rule in most none dev MP Games)
Unconditional Surrender is an incomplete mechanic because it destroys the surrendering country if kept in that state, everyone knew that.
The Surrendering country Has an Undeletable army and No income so Bankruptcy is pre-programed.
The victor gets WE and any experienced Player knows that WE just doesn't hurt that much and can be mitigated quickly.
The Devs should really call this the 1st time Exploit and fix their rules for next time.
Last Dev MP Groogy complained that the Victors Paused to peace an unconditional Surrender (Standard Rule in most none dev MP Games)
Unconditional Surrender is an incomplete mechanic because it destroys the surrendering country if kept in that state, everyone knew that.
The Surrendering country Has an Undeletable army and No income so Bankruptcy is pre-programed.
The victor gets WE and any experienced Player knows that WE just doesn't hurt that much and can be mitigated quickly.
The Devs should really call this the 1st time Exploit and fix their rules for next time.
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Agree, the big to do was the pausing of the game.
Granted, I agree 100% that this mechanic needs fixed.
Granted, I agree 100% that this mechanic needs fixed.
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I don't like how Johan is playing grand director threatening to exchange countries among players.
If he wants to play, he should play; if he comments, he should not be the arbiter.
And if he thinks rules are abused, he should have designed them differently.
If he wants to play, he should play; if he comments, he should not be the arbiter.
And if he thinks rules are abused, he should have designed them differently.
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No he was right, StarNan ruined Bahmanis and the whole affair was cringy to watch.
He refused to accept a 100% warscore peace when he lost at 100%, he was a bad looser and even got benefit from sacrificing his ally by carving him up at the end. I don't think it's normal either that Bahmanis had to suck up Gujarat stubborness.
He refused to accept a 100% warscore peace when he lost at 100%, he was a bad looser and even got benefit from sacrificing his ally by carving him up at the end. I don't think it's normal either that Bahmanis had to suck up Gujarat stubborness.
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The World According To the Gaijin Year 1501
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## STATS FOR MP ###
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Current Score
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## STATS FOR MP ###
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Current Score
- Ottomans 1613 (+2.10)
- Ming 658 (+1.33)
- England 350 (+0.96)
- Denmark 334 (+0.27)
- France 318 (+0.82)
- Castile 279 (+0.13)
- Muscovy 252 (+0.64)
- Poland 115 (+0.00)
- Austria 99 (+1.24)
- Bahmanis 97 (+0.00)
- Timurids 50 (+0.00)
- Pasai 33 (+0.00)
- Lithuania 32 (+0.00)
- Brunei 22 (+0.13)
- Hamburg 17 (+0.00)
- Lucca 13 (+0.32)
- Brittany 11 (+0.00)
- Japan 6 (+0.00)
- Mecklenburg 6 (+0.00)
- Vijayanagar 6 (+0.18)
- Ming 1135
- Ottomans 827
- Muscovy 517
- Austria 439
- England 428
- Vijayanagar 402
- France 377
- Castile 370
- Jaunpur 366
- Dai Viet 345
- Poland 342
- Manchu 326
- Gujarat 307
- Mamluks 295
- Lithuania 257
- Persia 256
- Bengal 244
- Denmark 220
- Ethiopia 213
- Kilwa 210
- Ming 103.17
- Ottomans 53.50
- England 34.73
- Austria 30.75
- France 25.69
- Bengal 23.82
- Muscovy 23.56
- Mali 23.02
- Mamluks 22.82
- Ayutthaya 21.15
- Vijayanagar 20.28
- Castile 20.18
- Lithuania 19.97
- Brunei 19.43
- Aragon 19.29
- Poland 19.23
- Gujarat 18.94
- The Papal State 18.66
- Sweden 18.57
- Denmark 17.59
- Ottomans 71,934
- Ming 66,298
- Austria 55,120
- France 52,356
- Muscovy 50,486
- Vijayanagar 47,760
- Mamluks 36,642
- England 31,747
- Korea 31,668
- Manchu 31,105
- Castile 30,611
- Lithuania 30,312
- Uesugi 28,818
- Poland 28,776
- Sweden 27,361
- Mali 26,607
- Nogai 26,484
- Oirat 25,731
- Persia 25,403
- Norway 23,582
- Ming 85,327
- Ottomans 40,877
- Lithuania 32,782
- Vijayanagar 32,000
- Mamluks 30,000
- Manchu 30,000
- France 28,000
- Austria 24,000
- Huron 24,000
- Korea 23,000
- Pueblo 23,000
- Yamana 22,000
- Bengal 21,987
- England 21,000
- Ethiopia 21,000
- Mali 19,000
- Milan 19,000
- Muscovy 18,000
- Persia 18,000
- Shawnee 18,000
- Ottomans 5/41
- Ming 20/20
- Sweden 0/17
- Venice 0/12
- Aragon 0/10
- Ayutthaya 9/0
- Denmark 0/9
- Hormuz 0/9
- Mamluks 0/8
- Genoa 0/8
- Korea 0/7
- Dai Viet 0/7
- Pasai 6/0
- Livonian Order 0/5
- Tlemcen 0/4
- Yamana 0/3
- England 3/0
- The Papal State 0/3
- Japan 0/3
- Malacca 3/0
- Ming 23
- Bengal 21
- Brunei 21
- The Papal State 20
- Gujarat 17
- Sakalava 15
- Genoa 13
- Majapahit 13
- Warsangali 13
- Tlemcen 12
- Korea 11
- Vijayanagar 11
- Yamana 10
- Malacca 10
- Mali 10
- Lucca 10
- Mogadishu 10
- Ottomans 8
- Ayutthaya 8
- Benin 8
- Austria 24
- Uesugi 24
- Ming 23
- The Papal State 23
- Genoa 23
- Ottomans 23
- Aragon 23
- France 23
- Japan 23
- Lithuania 23
- Sweden 23
- Denmark 23
- Milan 23
- Brandenburg 23
- Bohemia 23
- Poland 23
- Silesia 23
- Saxony 23
- Trier 23
- Naples 23
- Ming 1314
- Ottomans 832
- Castile 525
- Muscovy 517
- England 444
- Austria 439
- France 377
- Denmark 358
[~]Poland 352
[~]Vijayanagar 288
[~]Jaunpur 262
[~]Lithuania 257
[~]Bengal 244
[~]Gujarat 241
[~]Aragon 240
[~]Kilwa 210
[~]Mamluks 204
[~]Milan 202
[~]Tlemcen 200
[~]Persia 177
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When the warleader surrrenders unconditionally, all other participant on his side should also surrender.
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