The Destruction Of The United States of America

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Gort11

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Balance? Well, if the US lose any of their homelands in my personal mod, they spawn 100 militia in the force pool. If they get it back, all US militias are set to 0 strength (i.e. disbanded). This is all done outside their manpower pool and I'm not sure if I included Alaska. The US AI is set to not build any. I also have the same for the UK and Japan, only with 50 militias each (or maybe 40 for UK).

I'm playing a promising Soviet Union '33 right now, maybe I'll get a chance to butt heads with their 100 militia, and whatever tanks and other goodies they will have stacked up in the Homeland before then.

...though I am at 301 IC before even conquering anything, and I have 20*20 infantry all with various double brigades.

100 militia is only some 1-1.5 million men though. Need more do you think?

Haha, look at this nationalist crap. Do you do the same for France?
 

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Enough said. As far as im concerned the American revolution is a major conflict. Limited indeed.
Yes the revolution was a big war, but there have been wars since then to advance theoretical and applied strategies, The Americans had good of both early on, but time does its damage when there is newer technologies and strategies emerging.
 

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The USA has a tough time domestically raising manpower, while its somewhat shown in the 'special mobilization' events, I'm unsure if its properly shown.

USA needs massive penalties domestically, unless there is massive aggression/belligerence from overseas nations.

...To my limited knowledge prior to WWI & II, the US of A had very little experience of mass conflict apart from their own civil war. To me, this left the USA at a catastrophic disadvantage in land warfare compared to their European and Asian counterparts, USA needs land/dissent penalties.

I personally think the US has been pretty radically constrained in DA. I think thats a good thing but I would be careful of going too far and trying to nerf them farther.

AFAIK their land doctrine is pretty bad until 1943+. To reflect pre-Kasserine US Army training and possible inexperience with large scale conflicts.

Unlike previous HoI's the US's interventionism slider is locked at full isolationism until 1942. They cannot move it without events. No more getting into the Allies in 1939 via lucky events. Furthermore, they have a pittance of manpower pre-war. So yeah they have IC but they can no longer start giant runs of 1939 mech infantry pre-mobilization. Mobilization itself is a fairly arduous process that gives them large dissent hits. Long story short: IMO US isn't doing much now until late 1942/early 1943. If Germany hasn't taken care of USSR by 1943 then its a foregone conclusion that Germany loses but thats more the US being the final nail in the coffin then Us swooping in to the rescue.

I don't know what sort of peace events could occur. Theoretically if Germany holds the UK and maybe the Canaries large scale invasions of Europe should be out of the question and a sort of white peace event should fire. I also am not wild about forcing the German player to land in the US. Logistically that too should be a nightmare.

I have no idea what to do about Japan.
 
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Haha, look at this nationalist crap. Do you do the same for France?

The f***? Who exactly am I being nationalistic for? I don't live in any former territory of the Soviet Union, or any former or present territory of the United States. I've never even been in such.

Fyi, France has about 100 divisions anyway, they use all their manpower to fill those up and build more.

CollinD: The US Civil War was indeed huge, it cost the States more lives than WWI, WWII, Korea Vietnam and all the smaller wars in between, combined.

It also happened in the 1860's and the tactics used and developed for it were uselessly out of date for WWI, let alone WWII. I believe they were still fighting Napoleonic style at least for the first battles.
 

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Haha, look at this nationalist crap. Do you do the same for France?

Gort11, I'm sure he's only doing this to have a challenge when invading the US -- he's playing as the USSR. Please use a proper amount of decorum when posting here. A little kindness never hurt anyone.
 

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Enough said. As far as im concerned the American revolution is a major conflict. Limited indeed.

But the revolution wasn't a "modern" war in the sense that the civil war was and therefore really doesn't matter in this case.

Back on topic, I would have a quite a few militia divisions spawn if the USA is actually invaded. 100 is a bit much, but I could definitely see a fairly large militia army coming up if an invasion occurred. After all, the 2’nd amendment starts with the words “A well-regulated militia”, and if the country was actually invaded I could see the 2’nd amendment being used for its original purpose to full effect.
 

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I don't know if this has been said yet, but I think all nations should have riot events, tailored specifically to that nation...
 

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airpirate: The US population was about 120 million in 1940. Maybe breaking out the whole militia force at once is a bit lazy, though, I'll have to see about splitting the event into 6 for each of the in-game US mainland regions (it's actually a trivial task).

Gen. Mosh: Sounds cool, though I was thinking more varied flavour events. And I've picked up some cool flags which have given me ideas.
 

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airpirate: The US population was about 120 million in 1940. Maybe breaking out the whole militia force at once is a bit lazy, though, I'll have to see about splitting the event into 6 for each of the in-game US mainland regions (it's actually a trivial task).

Gen. Mosh: Sounds cool, though I was thinking more varied flavour events. And I've picked up some cool flags which have given me ideas.

Mobilization takes time, especially unprepared mobilization. If a German player launches a surprise landing, areas under attack should not have militia spawn (adequately represented by partisans). It should be divided by state/sub-state region.
 

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Don't put words in my mouth - I mean keyboard. I didn't say anything about mobilization.