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List of the Palaiologos Emperors & Timeline of Important Events

This is a special post that will keep a running list of all the Roman Emperors of the Palaiologos Dynasty (historical and in-game), as well as brief timeline of some important events that have occurred in the game. This post may serve as a sort of "abridged" version of the AAR for new readers who may otherwise be reluctant to read through a text-driven AARs.

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List of the Emperors of the Palaiologos Dynasty (Historic):

1) Michael VIII, reigned 1259-1281 (restored the empire to Constantinople)
2) Andronikus II, reigned 1282-1328
3) Andronikus III, reigned 1328-1341
4) John V, reigned 1341-1376
5) Andronikus IV, reigned 1376-1379
6) John V, reigned 1379-1390/second reign, 1390-1391
7) John VII, reigned 1390
8) Manuel II, reigned 1391-1425
9) John VIII, reigned 1425-1444* (from this point on, the rest of John VIII's reign is included in the next section of emperors)


Emperors Michael VIII and John VIII of the Palaiologos Dynasty. Michael restored the empire to Constantinople and John sought to save the empire in its most dire moments.

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In-game Palaiologos Dynasty (Historic)

9) John VIII, reigned 1444-1470
10) Constantine XI, 1470-1473

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In-game Palaiologos Dynasty (game, non-historic)

11) John IX, 1473-1484
12) Theodoras I, 1484-1497
13) John X, 1497-present


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List of Important Events

1444, Battle of Varna (historic), Turks defeat European coalition led by Poles and Hungarians
1445-1447 Siege of Trebizond, Romans re-take Trebizond
1455-1456 Roman conquest of Georgia (Batumi and Kartali)
1459 Massacre of the Mohammedans in Constantinople, Start of the Macedonian War
 
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Wait, so John VIII's reign is already ahistorical, as for some reason he is still alive in 1456?
 

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Rome was sacked in 476? I thought that the Herulii? regent Odovacar deposed Romulus Augustus then in Ravenna. :p

Also not sure about the double headed eagle, probably from Persian mythology?
Zoroastrians really liked birds. :D
 

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Very interesting religious update - I imagine the ecclesiastical authorities are only too happy to hear of these false Turkish atrocities - the reality would be rather harder to stomach.
 

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Wait, so John VIII's reign is already ahistorical, as for some reason he is still alive in 1456?

You have it about right. Since John's reign historically ended OTL in 1448 if memory serves me correct, and since he's still alive in-game. He is now in the realm of alternative history. And since the game starts in 1444, it is from 1444 onward his reign no longer follows the historic developments of the other Palaiologoi emperors. He and Constantine XI get their own section in the Timeline and List since they are historical individuals from OTL but will have a-historical histories because I'm reporting their reigns as from the developments of my game! :)

Rome was sacked in 476? I thought that the Herulii? regent Odovacar deposed Romulus Augustus then in Ravenna. :p

Also not sure about the double headed eagle, probably from Persian mythology?
Zoroastrians really liked birds. :D

Yes! I'm so sorry. I've recently had to start writing my long historiographic paper over the Roman Empire (Byzantine really), but start with the sacking of Rome by the Vandals, so when I wrote the "Sack" of Rome in 476 for this update, that should have been "fall." Thanks again Enewald :glare: :p :)

As for the doubled headed eagle, it has Mesopotamian roots with the Sumerians, and the first empire or culture to really employ its use was the Hittites. As far as I know, the Persians never used it. The Byzantines began employing it in the arts in the 10th century, likely having discovered it from old Hittite ruins within their empire. It wasn't until the Palaiologoi that they formally adopted its use and it became associated with the empire. The Turks and Russians received it from the Byzantines. And the Austrians/HRE received it to counter the claims of the Byzantines as being the heirs of the Romans.

A nice and short 12 page paper (not really, since it's filled with a lot of images) on the topic if you're interested is, "The Mesopotamian Origins of the Hittite Double-Headed Eagle."

Very interesting religious update - I imagine the ecclesiastical authorities are only too happy to hear of these false Turkish atrocities - the reality would be rather harder to stomach.

Well, since in my Preface I promised not on the military and political history of the Decline and Fall of Roman civilization, but religious and social (and economic) too, it was time to write about religion. Of course, anything to bring tension is good! :cool: I mean, most Europeans thought that such treatment of Christians was occurring in the Muslim empires. So much so that it was official history until the 1970s when new archaeological evidence began to surface that this simply wasn't the case. So, although the prose of this AAR is supposed to resemble a Turn of the Century work, I also want to keep it accurate from OTL's perspective (since "Near East" history is one of my areas of interest and study), I also wrote that such rumors were false to highlight the historic truth of Ottoman toleration toward religious minorities.
 

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Great to see that you now have encompassed religious life as well! Always a good sign. :)
 

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I mean, most Europeans thought that such treatment of Christians was occurring in the Muslim empires. So much so that it was official history until the 1970s when new archaeological evidence began to surface that this simply wasn't the case. So, although the prose of this AAR is supposed to resemble a Turn of the Century work, I also want to keep it accurate from OTL's perspective (since "Near East" history is one of my areas of interest and study), I also wrote that such rumors were false to highlight the historic truth of Ottoman toleration toward religious minorities.

I did not realise it was such a recent revelation, that's quite remarkable really. I wonder just how much that we currently consider to be accurate is in fact based on exaggerated or politically motivated accounts - or perhaps outright lies as in this case. The impact goes well beyond the political ramifications of the day.
 

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Great to see that you now have encompassed religious life as well! Always a good sign. :)

Just as Gibbon does, religion will be a major force in this prose from now-on, even if it is not mentioned directly. Christus est arma meus!

I did not realise it was such a recent revelation, that's quite remarkable really. I wonder just how much that we currently consider to be accurate is in fact based on exaggerated or politically motivated accounts - or perhaps outright lies as in this case. The impact goes well beyond the political ramifications of the day.

As I am sure you know, history is not this cut and dry, "facts, facts, facts" thing that many young people think that it is. History is highly subjective, and cannot be objective (although some think it can be, but I think such a statement reflects a great hubris on their part - *cough* Ranke!). In many cases, archaeology is the best evidence a historian has (rather than texts, even though historical texts drive our knowledge of the past). But at the same time, archaeology isn't perfect either. A lack of archaeological evidence isn't necessarily the best thing to base an argument on. That said, I am skeptical of the older documents and some of the older "Orientalists" who talk about such a rigid conflict between Muslims and Christians (and Jews) in the Ottoman Empire.

The Millet system essentially provided self-autonomy to the religious minority groups in the empire; although they still had some restrictions placed upon them (like not being able to rebuild decaying churches so the more beautiful Islamic mosques dominated the skyline and the city streets - symbolizing the superiority of the Muslim faith). That said, I have not come across many convincing sources that talk about forced conversions and militant conquests over religious minority groups. At the end of the day however, their own toleration seems to have undone them, since the people of the Ottoman Empire never coalesced around a unifying ideology because people always saw themselves as "Christian" "Jewish" or "Serbian" rather than osmanlilik.
 

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Can you remember me (or make an update) of the relation between the Romans Emperors and the Holy Romans Emperors
 

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Having seen the link to this AAR in your sig, volksmarschall, I decided to check it out and read all six pages. At first, I felt like I was in over my head because you're dealing with a subject matter and period of history that I know almost nothing about. It was like "What am I doing here? I don't know who this Gibbons guy is and I can't even begin to try spelling "Palaiologos" much less try to pronounce it."

However, as time went on and I read each update, I began to settle into this AAR and get the hang of it. It's obvious to me that you know exactly what you're talking about. Each update is crafted with your strong mastery of the facts and solid understanding of nuance. This AAR feels less like a casual project and more like a term paper in which you know the subject like the back of your hand.

Now I'm no longer "scared" (maybe it isn't the right word but it conveys the thought) of the subject matter you're covering. Now I have that child-like curiosity of seeing what you're going to do next. This is a solidly-written AAR and it's enjoying to read once you get the hang of it.

I'm also struck by how smart you are. :cool:
 

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Can you remember me (or make an update) of the relation between the Romans Emperors and the Holy Romans Emperors

I can't remember which volume Diocletian is covered. He must be in volume 1 or volume 2 of Gibbon's work. Anyway, Gibbon compared his reign with Charles V and while they appeared similar on the surface, Gibbon concludes they are not really similar despite both sought powerful reform, centralizing authority, and both retired quietly into the countryside after their rise to fame. I think this is what you are asking about? Otherwise, *Sssshhh* do not let our non-Gibbon readers know what I might be doing for some of my emperors when assessing their reigns (in-game of course, and naturally, I had to take notes on what is going on in the HRE too!) :) :p

Historically as well, the HRE emperors saw themselves as the heirs of Caesar and Augustus, because the Latin West never liked the idea that "Greeks" were the proper continuation of the Roman emperors started by Augustus. That's why the called themselves King or Emperor of Rome, and adopted the double-headed eagle (in reaction to the adoption of it by the Palaiologoi and so forth!) :)

Having seen the link to this AAR in your sig, volksmarschall, I decided to check it out and read all six pages. At first, I felt like I was in over my head because you're dealing with a subject matter and period of history that I know almost nothing about. It was like "What am I doing here? I don't know who this Gibbons guy is and I can't even begin to try spelling "Palaiologos" much less try to pronounce it."

However, as time went on and I read each update, I began to settle into this AAR and get the hang of it. It's obvious to me that you know exactly what you're talking about. Each update is crafted with your strong mastery of the facts and solid understanding of nuance. This AAR feels less like a casual project and more like a term paper in which you know the subject like the back of your hand.

Now I'm no longer "scared" (maybe it isn't the right word but it conveys the thought) of the subject matter you're covering. Now I have that child-like curiosity of seeing what you're going to do next. This is a solidly-written AAR and it's enjoying to read once you get the hang of it.

I'm also struck by how smart you are. :cool:

I'm glad to see you in the EU4 subforum Nathan! And I do think you are too kind to me! :) Hmm, you must have read through about 50 pages of word text (font 11 Calibri on Word at 1.15 spacing)! :eek:

As you've noted, this is not just a casual project, this is a tribute to Edward Gibbon's "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" (hence my title). Rather than "scared", "daunting" might be a better choice of word? Naturally, this AAR is written and intended to be read like if it were a history book of the turn of century! As someone with a BA in history (and someone who is likely to obtain a PhD in History within the next decade), I am now clearly partial to the history-book AAR, and I now think a "history book AAR" should be written as such! For a new reader, they might be turned away to see this is a wholly textual driven AAR with a few pictures (and a rare screenshot) here and there...thus also my "abridged" timeline that will mostly just cover political/military events.

As my friend Agistournas has said, this is not just an AAR, but a "historical journey." One of the great problems I now realize is how much are you all (the readers) are taking away from actual Byzantine history from what is going on in my game that I'm writing about? So much of this AAR is trying to stay historically true to the period history, especially when I write about religion, diplomatic attempts (I followed in-game what I thought the historic Byzantines would do), and so forth... I'm actually just writing actual history. (Ironically I am writing a historiographic paper on the evolution of Western views on them, starting with Gibbon to the present, and have a lecture to give on it as well). Not only is this an AAR in the traditional understanding of AAR, but this is also my attempt at writing a true history so all of the readers can take away actual knowledge of OTL period history as possible (i.e., not the history that "Byzantine fans" have read from wikipedia :glare: (since, I am only a lowly researcher :p ... I actually have a lot of off-time for my favorite things to do besides read: video games, golf, and fishing!, which is why I managed to wander back to these forums after what I thought would have been my permanent departure)

Glad to see you again my friend! :)

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I learn more reading well-researched AARs such as this one here than I have learned in eight years of history lessons at school. I hold people like you responsible for that, and I believe you should take great pride in that.
 

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I learn more reading well-researched AARs such as this one here than I have learned in eight years of history lessons at school. I hold people like you responsible for that, and I believe you should take great pride in that.

I think you are too kind, but I am happy you think this! Of course, I get the same feeling too, when AAR authors highlight people who otherwise aren't in standard history books and texts, and then I start searching for a book or something about them. While it is a bit easy to realize "political history" is pretty much what transpires in this game, the social, economic, and religious histories I am including tries to stay true to some events that fired in-game (like "Protect Church Independence") but otherwise, I am largely writing a history of the Orthodox Church and their doctrines and relationship with Rome apropos OTL. Although, looking back on it, I think I could have done a better job at separating the game from history I am hoping you all can take away! Hey, most of us here love history to begin with, so why not expand our horizons in an AAR too?

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das AAR gefallen mir! :D I hope I said that right.
But historical realism is always good, especially with the social/economic/religious aspects. I will always want to either see or include those. :)
 

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Chapter IV

The Nature and Politics of the Orthodox Church

I must admit, the Orthodox Church is one of the most unique, and often misunderstood denominations of Christianity in the world. The term “Orthodox Church” is also a bad name, since the Church itself is not united in the same sense of the Roman Catholic Church, or the Protestant Church of Hungary, or the United Church of Ireland [1]. I much prefer the term Orthodox Churches, to resemble the more accurate reality of the state of the Eastern Churches.* Like the Catholic Church, the Orthodox Churches claim to be the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church founded by the Lord Jesus Christ and his holy apostles. Like the Catholic Church, they have seven sacraments, and have recognized apostolic succession (something the latter Protestant and Reformed Churches do not). That is, the churches can trace a direct line back to the apostles of Christ. For example, it is a fact that the Alexandrian Church of the East (Greek Orthodox Church of Alexandria) was founded by the evangelist Mark, the non-Chalcedonian Church of Egypt (the Coptic Church) was also started by the evangelist Mark. The Orthodox Church of Jerusalem was founded by the eleven apostles of Jesus following his death and subsequent resurrection. The Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch and all the East was founded by Saints Peter and Paul in the city of Antioch (although the patriarchal headquarters was later moved to Damascus), this is the first official Christian church listed in the Bible (cf. Acts 11:26). The Roman Catholic Church was founded by Saint Peter. The Roman Church (of Greece) [2] was founded by Saint Paul, and is the state church of the Roman Empire, headquarters in Constantinople. All leaders of these churches succeed from the original apostles; hence, they have apostolic succession. Despite the Roman Catholic Church and Orthodox Churches of the East no longer in communion (that is, they are no longer unified with one another, even though they technically never were), both recognize one another as having valid sacraments and apostolic authority.


Jesus of Nazareth handing the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven to Saint Peter. The Catholic Church had interpreted this as the basis for the "Primacy of the Bishop of Rome" (Peter is elevated among the Apostles, and as the founding Bishop of Rome, Rome is holds authority over the rest of the ecclesiastical body). However, the Orthodox Churches maintain an equality of the apostles, and cite The Great Commission (Mt. 28:16-20) as a common rebuttal to the "Primacy of Rome."

As mentioned earlier, all of these churches are led by a Patriarch, who has religious authority over the Christian community in the certain district or see which they have been granted authority over. These territories of jurisdiction go back to the formation of the universal empire and Pentarchy of Justinian the Great, who divided up Christendom into five major primates: Rome (controlling much of the West), Constantinople (controlling much of the East: all of Greece and Anatolia), Antioch (controlling territories north of Jerusalem and into Mesopotamia), Jerusalem (controlling the Holy Lands), and Alexandria (controlling Egypt and parts of North Africa). Of these episcopal sees, two were the most important, Rome and Constantinople. After the loss of Rome and the drifting separation between the Latin Church at Rome and the Greek speaking churches of the East, the Catholic Church, headed by the Pope, claimed primacy over all of Christendom, effectively robbing the eastern patriarchs of their full independence. This was bitterly contested by the Patriarchs of Constantinople, the home of the Roman emperor also, who derived the doctrine “first among equals” in relationship to Rome. Rather than having all official doctrine and decision coming from Rome, Constantinople argued that the two patriarchs were equal in power and status, and to become universal law and doctrine, one needed the support of the other over ecclesiastical matters. It is from the primary role that the Patriarch had in contesting the Primacy of the Bishop of Rome that he became the “symbolic” head of the Orthodox Church, although he should not be seen as the “Orthodox Pope” that some like to suggest.

Following the formal dissolution of the union between Latin and Greek speaking churches, the Patriarchs of Constantinople became more dependent upon the Roman emperor to protect their independence and authority from hungry Catholics, and warring Mohammedans, that threatened to bring to extinction to the historic church of Jesus of Nazareth and his apostles. As mentioned before, John VIII quickly abandoned his attempts of reunification and saw it his divine mission to protect Patriarchal authority and church independence from prowling Catholics and expansionist Mohammedans (no doubt also because his attempts at reunification were soundly rejected by his subjects and threatened the throne he sat upon). John VIII, with what little money he had from the imperial treasury, sought a restoration of the Church of Holy Wisdom, the Hagia Sophia, the only Christian church in the world that could rival in beauty, majesty, and splendor St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome. John also began building new churches within Constantinople, as well as sending money to Duke John of Trebizond to begin rebuilding and refurbishing churches in the Despotate of Trebizond. John’s actions earned much admiration from the zealous faithful, and it was seen as his attempt at re-devotion after his “heretical” actions of attempting to reunify with the Latins at the Union of Florence, although some very conservative members of the Church always saw him as heretical following his attempts to submit to the Chair of St. Peter at the Union of Florence.

Religious life in the empire was on the rise with the success in Trebizond and Georgia, and it was still much the daily routine for commoners, even some of the more pious nobles, the emperor included. Every Saturday and Sunday saw the proper church service “in ordinary time” (unless it was a special month of occasion like Advent or Easter) which all the faithful were expected to attend, keeping the Lord’s commandment “Remember the Sabbath, and keep it holy.” Smaller services were always held every day of the week, often in the morning or late at night. In early November, 1457, Patriarch Athanasius passed away and a new successor had to be chosen. Gennadios II was chosen to succeed him. Unlike his predecessor, who in the Declaration of Statutes of the East implicitly rejected the idea of the Pentarchy, Gennadios was a strong defender of the Pentarchy theory and privately wrote to Emperor John shortly after his enthronement as Patriarch:

While it is true that the various episcopal sees of the Roman Church (Greek speaking churches) have their authority and jurisdiction over the territories as defined by Justinian, it still remains a truth of Christianity that the Church is still universal and must remain united. Not just in liturgy and ecclesiastical policy, but also politically and it has long been maintained that God had instituted the divine empire (Rome) to be his instrument of justice and salvation to the world. The destruction of Jerusalem by Titus is but one example of this. The conversion of Constantine was a divinely instituted miracle on behalf of God to bring the former pagan empire into his generous and holy fold. No longer does God use pagan kingdoms as his instrument of justice to the world [3], but a Christian Kingdom that is also the protector of his holy church from heathens and heretics alike. Thus, it is the duty of the Emperor of Rome, whom God has given you in his wisdom the throne of Constantine, to protect our brothers and sisters against all forms of evil.

The letter of Gennadios to John is telling for many reasons. First, it showcases the power that the Patriarch has in influencing official Roman foreign policy, supposedly a secular matter. Second, unlike the Catholic Church, which understood universalizability as a spiritual matter, the Roman Church of Greece understands universalizability not only as a spiritual matter, but a secular or earthly matter as well. After all, the promise of God is a new earth [4]. That is, the universal church was not only united in the mystical body of Christ, but also under a political entity that would be God’s instrument of justice. After all, the first Christian emperor of Rome had been given the title “equal to the apostles,” a doctrine of the Church that held that certain Christian saints were so important to Christianity, that they ranked “equal to” the very apostles whom the Lord had commanded to spread the gospel to all creation!


A theoretical map of the elaboration of the Universal Empire, or Pentarchy, as established by Justinian the Great. This map outlines the principal territories that would be under ecclesiastical authority of the four major Eastern Primates: Constantinople, Antioch, Jerusalem, and Alexandria.

John responded:
To His All Holiness…
I greatly appreciate your vote of confidence in my faith and piety, and I promise to God that it will be the policy of my rule, and the rule of my brother Constantine, to ensure church independence at all times, and when possible, to bring our brothers and sisters back into the dominion of Christendom.

Naturally, I have only provided his closing in what was a lengthy letter of response to His All Holiness the Patriarch of Constantinople. Most important to understand from Emperor John’s response was the promise to restore universal Christendom to the faithful minority scattered throughout the historic homelands of Christianity, which were now controlled by the Mohammedans. In his response, we also see the power that the Patriarch wields, or can wield. Patriarch Gennadios had implicitly altered official Roman policy – the Romans now had a mission to reunite the Pentarchy if they desired. The desire, as the Patriarch wrote, is not something the emperor should just fawn at, but actually pursue because it was part of his divine duty. It also comes as no surprise that when Roman nobles petitioned to Emperor John to institute national taxation upon the Church, John refused, citing “God’s church does not get taxed, for it is unique among earthly institutions that it is divinely ordained and therefore not subject to the laws of this world.”

To the extent that the Church wielded political influence throughout the Roman Empire is not widely debated, it is a considered fact by consensus. As highlighted hitherto, the religious establishment in the Roman Empire held considerable power. Throughout the latter end of John’s reign, the Church not only continued to pressure for special favor, protection, and assurances of independence, the lack of any means of taxation on the wealthiest institution in the empire deprived the imperial coffers of much needed revenue. Of course, the Church claimed that its wealth was a vehicle for its holy mission. I am here reminded to think of the many Christian missionaries in faraway lands like the Orient with nothing more than their Bible and the shirt on their back performing God’s mission. Regardless, this religious revival was both a blessing and curse upon the empire. There seemed to be a push among the political elite, as well as some of the elite within the Church, to seek a restoration of the Universal Pentarchy of Justinian the Great, to which a later emperor would boldly struggle for, whom I shall cover in greater detail later in my work.

Meanwhile, Emperor John put the imperial treasury behind a new effort to restore the icons of the Church which were destroyed in the ninth century during a period known as the Iconoclasm, in which Iconoclasts (the breaker of icons) shattered and destroyed many of the beautiful icons and other artworks of the Romans (one of the reasons for the lack of Roman artwork of the period). The use of icons in the liturgy was formally adopted by the seventh ecumenical council, the Second Council of Nicaea. However, some thought it idolatrous to have icons in use during the mass, which sparked the wave of outrage and disobedience. The Council had adopted the use of icons and a symbol of faithful profession, and to help teach the illiterate of the story of the gospels. This wave of iconoclasm preceded the wave of iconoclasm that swept through Christendom in the early sixteenth century after the Protestant Reformation. Some critics of the emperor said he was putting his effort behind a restoration of the icons to shake off his missteps in trying to bow to the authority of the Pope at the Council of Florence, which earned John few friends. Regardless, we are indebted to his efforts because some of the precious works of Roman art has been preserved to us because of his efforts.


An iconoclast destroying Church icons during the tragic Iconoclasm of the Ninth Century. John VIII sought to showcase his piety and devotion by funding a new campaign to restore many of the lost icons to become an important focus of Church life.



[1] This timeline’s Ireland was among the first nations to go Protestant following the Protestant revolution.

[2] The Roman Church is the equivalent of our timeline’s Greek Orthodox Church. To avoid confession with the Roman Catholic Church, it is known as the Roman Church of Greece – which is this AAR’s state church of the Roman (Byzantine Empire). I may refer to it in this AAR as the Byzantine Church or the Roman Church as well, so consider these terms interchangeable.

[3] The Patriarch is referring to our historical idea that Pagan empires of the Old Testament, like Egypt (Pharaoh), Babylon (Nebuchadnezzar), and Persia (Cyrus the Great) were instruments of God’s justice through human history (sometimes good, like Cyrus, other times bad, like Pharaoh and Nebuchadnezzar).

[4] Cf. 2 Peter Chapter 3, Verse 13 & Revelation Chapter 21 Verses 1-8.

*This statement actually reflects how your’s truly sees the world of Orthodoxy, since Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, and Coptic Orthodoxy (all generally labelled “Orthodoxy” by Western onlookers) are not united despite the umbrella term. For example, the Oriental and Coptic Orthodox Church(es) do not accept all seven of the first ecumenical councils that are universally accepted by all Eastern Orthodoxy and Catholicism (they accept the first three, including the First Council of Nicaea). That said, I do think the Orthodox liturgy is the most beautiful in the world, even better than the Catholic liturgy which I weekly attend in real life.
 
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das AAR gefallen mir! :D I hope I said that right.
But historical realism is always good, especially with the social/economic/religious aspects. I will always want to either see or include those. :)

"Th[is] AAR pleases me" :)

Well GuG, I am glad you think that my friend!
 

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This chapter is like an introduction to the Orthodox Church! But you fit it so well with your AAR. Did you pick the Pentarchy Mission since you talk about it so much?
 

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Methinks this talk of the Pentarchy is going to be John's justification for a little land acquisition and government centralization.