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two qustions

1. will the ctf start out with a few countries and other countries (check rep. for example) start joining as, thats whats happening with the EU. But the CTF and EU are different right?

2. there going to fight russia provided the facist win right?
 

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Originally posted by vcarter707
two qustions

1. will the ctf start out with a few countries and other countries (check rep. for example) start joining as, thats whats happening with the EU. But the CTF and EU are different right?

2. there going to fight russia provided the facist win right?

1) The CTF (in reality) do not exist. In the game, they will start with Benelux, Germany and France. Other countries will join when we add the "CTF diplomacy" events.

2) Yes.
 

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Originally posted by A.F.C.A.
I think The Netherlands should be in the CotW. There are airforce units in Afghanistan and over 2000 Marines in southern Iraq. Furthermore, the Dutch government has supported the US from the beginning.

As much as The Netharlands do support the U.S. time to time, the ICC is there (The Hague), and they are a BIG part of the EU. They are much closer allies with germany and France than with the U.S.
 

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CTF Ship Names

Italian Carriers:
Coraggio
Rapido
Tigre
Lama
Fede

Italian Cruisers:
Brindisi
Roma
Alghero
Firenze
Milano
Venezia
Siena
Assisi
Brescia
Napoli
Genova
Siracusa
Trieste

French Carriers:
Faucon
Dominique
Paris
Aigle
Courage
France
Serpent
Dauphin

French Cruisers:
Vézelay
Bordeaux
Boulogne
Reims
Le Harve
Bayeux
Lyon
Marseilles
Nice
Toulouse
Nancy
Saint Malo
Brest
La Rochelle
Nantes
Troyes
Calais

German Carriers:
Graf Zeppelin
Peter Straßer
Manfred von Richthofen

German Cruisers:
Admiral Graf Spee
Admiral Scheer
Lützow
Admiral Hipper
Blücher
Lützow
Prinz Eugen
Seydlitz
Lütjens
Emden
Karlsruhe
Köln
Leipzig
Nürnberg
Augsburg
Bremen
Hamburg
Dresden

German Destroyers:
Bayern
Sachsen
Berlin
Thüringen
Niedersachsen
Saarland
Baden-Würtemberg
Hessen
Nordrhein-Westfalen
Bremen
Brandenburg
Rheinland-Pfalz
Hamburg
Schleswig-Holstein
Mecklenburg-Vorpommern
Sashsen-Anhalt
Leipzig
Kassel
Dresden
Freiburg

Belgian Carriers:
La Flandre
Philippe
Brabant

Belgian Cruisers:
Oostende
Bruxelles
Vlaanderfn
Antwerpen
Namur
Limburg
Liége
Hainaut

Dutch Carriers:
Draak
Havik
Gezwind

Dutch Cruisers:
Rotterdam
Vlieland
Amsterdam
Sterkte
Middelburg
Haai
Harlingen
Den Helder
Utrecht
 
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Belgian Navy:

Frigates:
WIELINGEN-Class:
F910 Wielingen
F911 Westdiep
F912 Wandelaar

Minesweepers:
KMV-Class (4 planned):
M926
M927
M928
M929

Minehunters:
ASTER (TRIPARTITE)-Class:
M915 Aster
M916 Bellis
M917 Crocus
M921 Lobella
M923 Narcis
M924 Primula


Netherlands Navy:

Frigates:
DE ZEVEN PROVINCIEN-Class:
F802 De Zeven Provincien (trials)
F803 Tromp (under construction - 2003)
F804 De Ruyter (under construction - 2004)
F805 Evertsen (under Construction - 2005)

JACOB VAN HEEMSKERCK-Class:
F812 Jacob Van Heemskerck
F813 Witte De With

KORTENAER-Class:
F824 Bloys Van Treslong (decommissioned 2004)

KAREL DOORMAN-Class:
F827 Karel Doorman
F828 Van Speijk
F829 Willem Van Der Zaan
F830 Tjerk Hiddes
F831 Van Amstel
F832 Abraham Van Der Hulst
F833 Van Nes
F834 Van Galen

Submarines:
WALRUS-Class:
S802 Walrus
S803 Zeeleeuw
S808 Dolfijn
S810 Bruinvis

Amphibious Ships:
L801 Johan De Witt (planned 2007)
L800 Rotterdam

Minehunters:
ALKMAAR-Class:
M853 Haarlem
M854 Harlingen
M855 Scheveningen
M856 Maasluis
M857 Makkum
M858 Middelburg
M859 Hellevoetsluis
M860 Schiedam
M861 Urk
M862 Zierikzee
M863 Vlaardingen
M864 Willemstad
 

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only france germany and benelux at the ctf? except for uk and scandinavians all EU countries seem rather interested in making the union stronger im from spain and despite spanish aid at irak most of the population is pro european
 

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Lunar said:
German Carriers:
Dracha
Deutschland
Stärke
Alpen
Nordsee
Ostsee
Despite the fact that Germany

1) doesn´t possess any CV
2) doesn´t plan to ever build any CV because German naval doctrine concentrates on shallow waters warfare and relies on the US and UK for naval support in the NATO

I´d like to point out four things:
- What should "Dracha" mean? Never heard of it, it sounds Slavic and it means nothing in German language
- "Stärke" is a ludicrous name for a ship. It would mean "flour" or maybe "strength", but it sounds silly as a ship name
- "Alpen" - why should a ship be named after mountains???
- "Deutschland" already is used as warship name and thus won´t apply to CV

Lunar said:
German Cruisers:
(...)
Saschen
(...)
Niedersaschen
(...)
Saschen-Anhalt
(...)
:rofl: This is funny... "Saschen"... :rofl:
You´d pronounce that "-SH-", while the real name is pronounced "-KS-" and thus must be spelled
"... S A C H S E N".

I know it´s difficult for non-Germans but please apply at least this correction ;)

PS:
Nothing personal Lunar, but some of the things you suggested are a punch in the stomach for me ;) :p
I know for sure my English hurts native English speakers, too, so we´re in the same boat :D
 

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I'm very well aware that Germany doesn't have any carriers, but if a human German player DOES decide to build some CVs, the carriers should have names. I just used Altavista to translate some generic things like "Strength" and "Dragon" (Drache), like I did for the other countries.

I made a mistake with Sachsen.

Thanks for the input, but can you provide better names?
 

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Lunar said:
I'm very well aware that Germany doesn't have any carriers, but if a human German player DOES decide to build some CVs, the carriers should have names. I just used Altavista to translate some generic things like "Strength" and "Dragon" (Drache), like I did for the other countries.

I made a mistake with Sachsen.

Thanks for the input, but can you provide better names?
Sure. All navies have a naming tradition for the different types of navies. In Germany, medium ships are named after provinces, smaller ships after cities.
The really big ships are named after famous persons...
CV:
- Graf Zeppelin (father of zeppelins)
- Peter Strasser (leader of the Zeppelin fleet in WW1)
- Manfred von Richthofen (Red Baron)
BB:
- Deutschland
- Otto von Bismarck
- Gneisenau
- Scharnhorst
- Tirpitz
CA heavy:
- Admiral Graf Spee
- Admiral Scheer
- Admiral Hipper
- Blücher
- Lützow
- Prinz Eugen
- Seydlitz
- Lütjens
CA light:
- Emden
- Karlsruhe
- Köln
- Leipzig
- Nürnberg
- Augsburg
- Bremen
- Hamburg
- Dresden
DD (today: Frigate):
- all states of Germany
though maybe DD won´t be made single ships, so they´d better be named "x. Fregattengeschwader" or "x. Zerstörergeschwader" with "x" being an index.
 
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