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The Creek Coast
A Creek IN 3.2 AAR


Patch 3.2b, nation Creek. Difficulty Hard, settings normal except random lucky nations.

I'm trying the same as Prawnstar in his "Audacity of Hope" AAR: Survive as long as possible, and if i'm lucky enough, maybe expand into Europe (or what the Creek call the Terra Incognita).

I'm not as good player as Prawnstar, so i might not survive.

Comments are very welcome, i hope you learn something from this. First update(s) in few hours.
 

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well , good luck ^^
he had luck portugal did not dow him too soon :D
 

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Update I: Cherries taste good



This is our world. Our advantage (compared to Iroquis; i keep referring to Prawnstar's AAR throughout this AAR) is that we start on the coast. Neighbors are Cherokees and Shawnees.



This is the result of moving towards centralisation. 4 rebel regiments rise up on the other side of our country. I prepare to recruit troops, but i fear that i will collapse, because i have no forts and they just run through the country. Our only army is 1,000 spearmen. No more.



Shawnee offers alliance, and that confirms Cherokee as our first target. All three of us are weak nations that can barely survive an 1vs1-war. With two nations attacking from opposite directions, they have already lost.

5th December 1399, rebels have destroyed our army and conquered the regions.



It's good it didn't last any longer, now we can prepare for war. Bad thing was that our prestige is now -22.



These are the only ministers we can make benefit of.

4th september 1400.



We have 4,000 troops against their 6000. We take no risks, so we scorch Alabama just before they arrive.



We won them, and while they retreated, Shawnee destroyed them. Cherokee lands were now free to take.

9th October 1402. We have conquered all of Cherokee lands. Shawnee made peace with them, demanding only one region. We will not do so.





"...Greatly upset the Animist world..." we don't care, we're the only animists. Because our next target is Shawnee.

We now control Cherry (cherokee) territories! Rebellions are a bit of problem, when we've reached +3 stability (in few months), we wait a while for RR to lower, then we'll attack Shawnee.



One year later, +3 stability. Some info before the offensive:



Next update this evening (or whatever time it is in your region, here it's 3:45 PM so in a few hours updating).

New goal:

  • Destroy Cherokee DONE
  • Destroy Shawnee
  • 0 RR everywhere
  • Have a good army to stand chance against europeans
  • SURVIVE!!!
 

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Yeah, IIRC there was a province limit and if you have below that, no succession crisises will break.

Anyway, i guess i could kill the pretender easily with those armies. Aren't they usually about 8,000 men?
 
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Not sure i have never played as native americans nor gotten succession crisises. But anyways this inspired me to start a game as Powhattan in wwm 3.3. Gonna get messy when the europeans arrive :p
 

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Not sure i have never played as native americans nor gotten succession crisises
I've had SC once, as timurids:D

E: From Prawnstar's Iroquis AAR, update 2:

"Province count is nine, at the limit of what can be done without the risk of a succession crisis every time my ruler dies."

I've got 13, so i have a problem.
 

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Aaaah, yes gotta love those tribal succesion crisis spirals...
Solution: Turn Shawnee into your vassal and sell the extra provinces. That way you have Indirect control over them meaning you will not suffer the negative parts, but you lose all positive except 50% of the tax.
 

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Update II: The Shawnee's Fall and... new rise

Brim I, after seeing Shawnee's government type (republic) realizes that he hasn't looked at our current government type!



We change for despotism, because of more manpower.



Useless?! It still takes 3000 years to research one level!

We picked up few better advisors to counter the stability hit taken by the government change.



At this point FRAPS stopped working, so i'll just describe:
First Shawnee cancelled our alliance. I couldn't forgive them, and therefore i gathered my armies.
Secondly, rebellions ravaged them (aftermatch of Cherokee war; their stability was -2) and they collapsed. They had now in total of HUGE 1,000 troops. :rofl:

Then i attacked.
Just before the war ended, fraps decided to work again:



We annexed.



So, we now have no neighbors! But i couldn't rest, as i knew Brim was old, and a succession crisis would lead to a collapse and then Cherokees and Shawnees would declare independence and we would need to do it all from scratch again. Then i read Nordscouters' comment, and decided that it would be the answer.



Shawnee is our vassal, and we have exactly 9 provinces. When the europeans arrive, i must westernise and get government higher to get rid of tribalism.
 

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As this is not a part of the update, i'll show you what i tried. I cheated the death of Brim, and this is the result.



So thanks for reminding me about the succession crisis early enough! You saved this aar.
 

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Good Luck.

You will need it. :eek: :)
 

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I'm helping! :D
 

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Just counted them. 30.000 in total, slightly overwhelming the current Creek army?