The Crazy MES Parallel-Country-Hopping AARs (OOC thread)

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Here the Stats for Roman Empire:

Victorypoints: 11
Lost: 13 provinces
Inflation during my total reign:7%
Losses
Infantry (total) 375,438
Cavalry (total) 48,908

Thanks

Joe (Sapphire)

You certainly got smashed around the globe

In the future there might be an example of some finer tactic to defend yourself.

When you get attacked from a direction in which you can release vassals and you are certain you lose the war just release them and the path of the Attacker can be blocked.
If it is not blocked wait for a month or two and ask your vassals into your aliance and most of the time you will get an extra few months of space as your enemy concentrates on your allies first.

 

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All right, I have Roman stats from Sapphire, from myself (will post soon) and from Daniel. if I got those of Mike I will come with an update.

 

[Mike von Bek]

Stats you say. Here we go:

Gained: 83 VP
Inflation: +9.8%
Provinces Gained: 5 (Kalmuk, Azov, Kerch, Crimea, Bujak)
Provinces Lost: 2 (Cyprus. Trabzon)
Total Gain: 3

Military losses
Infantry: 76600/35884/40716
Cavalry: 20382/6169/14213

That was a pretty tough decade, purely for the events. Unlucky choice, eh? Lets hope England is a little easier.

 

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Stats you say. Here we go:

Gained: 83 VP
Inflation: +9.8%
Provinces Gained: 5 (Kalmuk, Azov, Kerch, Crimea, Bujak)
Provinces Lost: 2 (Cyprus. Trabzon)
Total Gain: 3

Military losses
Infantry: 76600/35884/40716
Cavalry: 20382/6169/14213

That was a pretty tough decade, purely for the events. Unlucky choice, eh? Lets hope England is a little easier.

That was by purpose..... :rofl:

ok, I will implement the stats and post this list shortly.

mine are as follows:

Gaines, 4 provinces. Taurus/Adana/Sivas/Aleppo
Losses (3 Bulgarian provinces, Dalmatia, Bosnia and Cyprus but all (except Dalmatia) remained vassals during the ten years.)
Victorypoints: 267
BB at the end 18.4
Inflation: 5.4%
Losses: inf = 143.000 cav = 69.000

 

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Hey guys, do you count vassalised provinces as lost provinces or only if they are not vassal anymore/do not excist anymore/ are no part of your alliance+no vassal??????

and then when you loose provinces during a game will this be lowered from your total?

 

[DSMyers1]

That was by purpose..... :rofl:

ok, I will implement the stats and post this list shortly.

mine are as follows:

Gaines, 4 provinces. Taurus/Adana/Sivas/Aleppo
Losses (3 Bulgarian provinces, Dalmatia, Bosnia and Cyprus but all (except Dalmatia) remained vassals during the ten years.)
Victorypoints: 267
BB at the end 18.4
Inflation: 5.4%
Losses: inf = 143.000 cav = 69.000

Okay, how did your get 267 VPs and lose 2 provinces? That high on battle score? Creating vassals give you that many points? If that's so, I should have tried it

 

[Mike von Bek]

Hey guys, do you count vassalised provinces as lost provinces or only if they are not vassal anymore/do not excist anymore/ are no part of your alliance+no vassal??????

and then when you loose provinces during a game will this be lowered from your total?

I never count vassalised states as belonging to myself, and only count those I directly control. I guess if you end up with less provinces than you started, that could count against your grand total, but otherwise it doesnt bother me.

 

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Okay, how did your get 267 VPs and lose 2 provinces? That high on battle score? Creating vassals give you that many points? If that's so, I should have tried it

Creating vassals gives you 10 or 15 vps' and then alliying them another 5 or so.
And off course i waged three very sucefull wars. When i can upload the pics I will put my aar online.

 

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I never count vassalised states as belonging to myself, and only count those I directly control. I guess if you end up with less provinces than you started, that could count against your grand total, but otherwise it doesnt bother me.

Shall we implement this rules then..?

So, for the RE I got 4 provinces but lost 6 so this will be -2.
Too bad I had no other choice because otherwise i would have ended up in BB wars right away.

In my England game I have the same grand problem and so vassalized all of scotland 5 prov, lost 2 prov and gained 2 so taht is a total of -5.

Yep, impiment the rule. (but maybe I will replay the england game, too bad for the decoys then he...)

 

[DSMyers1]

Shall we implement this rules then..?

So, for the RE I got 4 provinces but lost 6 so this will be -2.
Too bad I had no other choice because otherwise i would have ended up in BB wars right away.

In my England game I have the same grand problem and so vassalized all of scotland 5 prov, lost 2 prov and gained 2 so taht is a total of -5.

Yep, impiment the rule. (but maybe I will replay the england game, too bad for the decoys then he...)

I agree. You lose provinces, but this is made up for in the VP bonuses for creating vassals, etc.

 

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If that was right then all my nice gains in KofJ would be lost as my RE losses!! Oh well, at least I hold the most men dead!!

Joe (Sapphire)

 

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If that was right then all my nice gains in KofJ would be lost as my RE losses!! Oh well, at least I hold the most men dead!!

Joe (Sapphire)

I also got some losses as the RE and I thinkmy england game will not be very nice either. But I am now replaying it without letting loose those vassals.

 

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My Roman empire stats

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Gaines, 4 provinces. Taurus/Adana/Sivas/Aleppo
Losses (3 Bulgarian provinces, Dalmatia, Bosnia and Cyprus but all (except Dalmatia) remained vassals during the ten years.)
Victorypoints: 267
BB at the end 18.4
Inflation: 5.4%
Losses: inf = 143.000 cav = 69.000

 

[DSMyers1]

I won't have time to do an AAR before vacation.... I have to finish the next release of ATF.

 

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I won't have time to do an AAR before vacation.... I have to finish the next release of ATF.

All right, we will wait for you to return after the ten years off England.

i finsihed the re-play yesterday. You know what I lost six provinces due to a event which made me create vassals. Scotland and France. (France?, Yes I had captured all off france)

 

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total stats from the start till now

Total vp's so far:

Mike von Bek: 336 (3 games)
Singleton Mosby: 431 (3 games)
Sapphire: 323 (2 games)
Dsmyers: 214 (3 games)

Kingdom of Jeruzalem

Singleton Mosby
Victory points: 107
Started with: 2 provinces
Gained: 2 provinces (only lost them march 1160)
Inflation during my reign: 7.2%
Losses
Infantry (total) 11.277 (combat) 10.565 (attrition) 1012
Cavalry (total) 5.704 (combat) 3.574 (attrition) 2.130

Mike von Bek
Victory points: 119
Started with: 2 provinces
Gained: 3 provinces
Inflation during my reign: 5.8%
Losses
Infantry (total) 3,581 (combat) 1,073 (attrition) 2,508
Cavalry (total) 1213 (combat) 714 (attrition) 499

Sapphire

Victorypoints: 62
Started with: 2 provinces
Gained: 11 provinces
Inflation during my reign: 24%
BB:24.7/27
Losses
Infantry (total) 2500 (combat) 2210 (atrittion) 290
Cavalry (total) 19148 (combat) 13849 (atrittion) 5299

Dsmyers

Victorypoints: 80
Started with: 2 provinces
Gained: 3 provinces
Inflation during my reign: 0,06%
Losses
Infantry (total) 9,300
Cavalry (total) 3,300

The Almohads

Sapphire

Victorypoints: 185
Started with: 15 provinces
Gained: 5 provinces
Inflation during my reign: 0.0%
BB:21/26

Losses
Infantry (total) 101329 (combat) 36864 (atrittion) (disband) 18695
Cavalry (total) 26918 (combat) 17498 (atrittion) 9420

Singleton Mosby

vp's gained: only 3
BB: 6,3
I got +1 province and have an inflation of 1.1.
Lost about 8.000 troops to combat and Attrition of which 3.000
where cavalry.

Mike von Bek

Provinces Gained: Asturias, Cantabria, Galicia, Tago, Baleares
Provinces Lost: Sahara
Inflation: 6,2%
VPs Gained: 132 (started at 80, ended at 212)
Losses (Infantry): 79,387 (24,469 in battle, 54,918 in attrition)
Losses (Cavalry): 15,206 (4,715 in battle, 10,491 in attrition)

Dsmyers

Victorypoints: 78
Started with: 16 provinces
Gained: 2 provinces
Inflation during my reign: 0,00%
Losses
Infantry (total) 22,000
Cavalry (total) 6,000

Aragon

Mike von Beck
nflation: +10%
VP: +85
Losses
Infantry: 17823 / 9824 / 7999
Cavalry: 934 / 260 / 674

Sapphire

Victorypoints: +76
Started with: 5 provinces
Gained: 1 provinces
Inflation during my reign: 43.5%
BB:14.5/27

Losses
Infantry (total) 90613 (combat) 25144 (atrittion) (disband) 4380
Cavalry (total) 11763 (combat) 1783 (atrittion) 9420

DsMyers
VP:56
Inflation 0%
Started 3 Provinces
Ended 5 provinces
BB: 1.97
Losses
18,000 Infantry
13,000 Cavalry

Singleton Mosby
Victory points: 331
Started with: 6 provinces
Gained: 16 provinces (lost 2 trough vassalisation)
Inflation during my reign: 49,4%
BB 42,2/27
Losses
Infantry (total) 50,100
Cavalry (total) 41,000

The Roman empire 1180-1190

Mike von Bek

Gained: 83 VP
Inflation: +9.8%
Provinces Gained: 5 (Kalmuk, Azov, Kerch, Crimea, Bujak)
Provinces Lost: 2 (Cyprus. Trabzon)
Total Gain: 3
Military losses
Infantry: 76600/35884/40716
Cavalry: 20382/6169/14213

Singleton Mosby
Gaines, 4 provinces. Taurus/Adana/Sivas/Aleppo
Losses (3 Bulgarian provinces, Dalmatia, Bosnia and Cyprus but all (except Dalmatia) remained vassals during the ten years.) so that is -2.
Victorypoints: 267
BB at the end 18.4
Inflation: 5.4%
Losses: inf = 143.000 cav = 69.000

Sapphire
Victorypoints: 11
Lost: 13 provinces
Inflation during my total reign:7%
Losses
Infantry (total) 375,438
Cavalry (total) 48,908

DsMyers
VPs 116
Went from 22 provinces to 26 provinces
Stability from -1 to +2
9% inflation during my reign (it was a tough war )
treasury went from 181 with 2 loans to 453
Losses:
47197 Infantry
8609 Cavalry

Total (all games, so far combined):

Singleton Mosby:
Victory points: 708
Gained: 17 provinces
Inflation during my reign: 62.1%
Losses
Infantry (total) 209.000
Cavalry (total) 119.000

Mike von bek:
Victory points: 419
Gained: 14 provinces
Inflation during my total reign: 31,8%
Losses
Infantry (total) 176,000
Cavalry (total) 37,700

Sapphire

Victorypoints: 334
Gained: 4 provinces (lost 13 as Roman Empire)
Inflation during my total reign: 74,5%
Losses
Infantry (total) 476,000
Cavalry (total) 106,000

Dsmyers

Victorypoints: 330
Gained: 12 provinces
Inflation during my total reign: 9,06%
Losses
Infantry (total) 103,000
Cavalry (total) 31,000

 

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The what will we do now question.

Question: we have arrived at 1200 and have 2 choices before us.

1. We will go on with the game we play at the moment. And do not have any real mongol invasion. But, we will have our own history as we created it.

2. We will skip to the 1205 scenario and do have a real mongol invasion spree. But we will lose our own made history.

(You could say we take option 1, and go mongol in the next game. That is a certain possibility but many of us will end in 10 years of BB war and in the end make a mongol empire the Ai can not control.)

I am in favor of option 2. Waht do you guys think?

 

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Sigh!!! My nice KofJ is so vast that it reached the the border of Asia Minor and looking at Thrace

One question!!! to order to do Opinon 2, do we have to download ME 0.3 then???


Thanks

Joe (Sapphire)

PS: To be honest, I would rather to do Opinon 1 and it is rather fun to see KofJ expanded to such as extent that it is biggist empire in Middle East The only great power that can stop KofJ are Skuelk Empire (sp?) And S Empire was so nervous that it declared war upon KofJ just few months before end of English game. I can do Opinon 2 Mongol with no problem when I download ME 0.3. And play Opinon 1 at the same time and only give you news about Empire of Jersualem every ten years since all the nations kept declaring war on KofJ.

 

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PS: To be honest, I would rather to do Opinon 1 and it is rather fun to see KofJ expanded to such as extent that it is biggist empire in Middle East The only great power that can stop KofJ are Skuelk Empire (sp?) And S Empire was so nervous that it declared war upon KofJ just few months before end of English game. I can do Opinon 2 Mongol with no problem when I download ME 0.3. And play Opinon 1 at the same time and only give you news about Empire of Jersualem every ten years since all the nations kept declaring war on KofJ.

Those cool guys have reached their BB limit by now. It is certainly worth it to see your KofJ fall down or expand ever more but the most of us will end up in more and more BB wars while we progress.


Let's wait what Mike has to say.

And I do not think you have to download Version 0,3

 

[Mike von Bek]

Will a Mongol Horde really not appear? Thats a shame, kinda invalidates Flagg's 'To the East, chaps!' thing. If the Mongol Horde will not appear, then I suggest yes - lets restart the game in 1200, or 1220, or whenever, and brace ourselves for impact.

So I guess that would be a vote for option 2.

Incidentally, Im studying for an exam on Friday, so I wont throw up an English post till the weekend. Sorry.