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All right. I´m gonna do an AAR using 1.03 (Maybe 1.04 later on). Some rules:

-Very hard, furious. GC.
-No cheating
-No abusive/ahistorical/illogical choices just to gain an edge over the poor AI.
-No tech sales.
-No savefile editing, unless mentioned, and goes on with the story.
-No globegrabbing colonialism.
-No illogical landsales. I propably exchange just colonies.
-No loading!!!!! May it go, as it goes.


I will be posting some pics.

I am propably going to do some alternations and new events and savegamefile editing stuff. To make events appropriate for the game. However nothing too excessive. I even might switch countries, but that is unlikely to happen.

Suggest something if you wish.
 
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Sounds good. I'm looking forward to it.
 

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Good luck with spain. I tried her once in 1836, but I could never get the revolts to stop, no matter what I did.
 

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Spain 1836 - 1854.

Spain in 1836: A little country of 16 million people, bordering France and Portugal. All former colonies, with the exception of Philippines and Cuba, were lost in the nations decline in early 19th century.


The economic situation seemed great: Over 16 million tax payers, more than eight factories, and almost complete self-sufficieny of raw materials. Timber and sulphur were missing, though, along with some fancy spices.

Political field was wide, and it seemed as all people could support their views, through any of the three parties.

Our army was huge, nearly forty thousand men. And why? Why would we need a strong army in a paradise, that we inhabited? Were we not at peace at last, as we had given up the foolish claims of other world, and began living in the Iberian penisula? Immedeatly we disbanded some of the troops.


Then it began...


In 1833 the King of Spain Fernando the third had died. Leaving the throne to Isabella. However after her "incidental" death, the throne succeeded to his brother Carlos, later knowed as Carlos the Fifth. His reign was that of conservative. A reactionary against the new liberal institutions.

However Isabella had many powerfull friends and so the people were incited to revolt. Soon all of Iberia was at flames, and the ministers who were behind the disbanding of the army, were also disbanded so to speak. The last standing colonies saw this as an opening for freedom and soon revolters took controls of Havanna. The sea between the Philippine islands, kept the revolts from spredding out, but still within the years of the civilwar, all of Phillipines became one, under the Isabellian banner.

The army was enforced, mobilization took place and special laws took place to ensure both financing for the army and minimalizing the revolt risk.

Many people left their homes, and settled to new areas. Loyal citizens from the Canaries and Tafersit, escaped the revolution to Africa, which coast they soon controlled. The goverment seeing this as an opening for conquest of Africa supported their work, even though it meant raised taxes. The French also were not at all pleased, by this new wave of Spanish colonialism, especially to Africa, which the French themselves had began colonizing heavily.

After an ultimatum send by the French goverment to the Spanish, the Spanish finally ordered the cessation of the movement. The coastline, however was already claimed. Also due to the extremely tensious situation, Russia and the Netherlands offered us an alliance. The French were now eager to give up their ultimatum, and as such our colonization could have continued, if it had not been for the lack of money.

The war was a fierce one. Carlos had to make some concessions to the revolters, by allowing public meetings for instance, and so slowly but surely the Isabellians went into decline. Having gained no further support from the French the last supporters of Isabella fled the country with haste. July of 1838 is greeted as the first month of peace. No revolts take place during the month. Also it was a month before, in June that the last revolt base in Manilla was destroyed. The war had ended.

A parade was organized for the triumphant Spanish army. Although having lost more than eighty thousand men, they had won. Victories in mainland Spain, tobacco plantations of Cuba and even in the jungles of Manilla, had proven to the world, that Carlos was truly the king of Spain.

Greeting the marching army, and the masses waving the Neo-Castillian flag, Carlos smiled.

"BANG!", Carlos quickly ducked. "KABOOM!", a whole company left the earthly world, as an 8-inch cannon delivered it´s deathly congratulations. "The Feminist, the feminist!" shouted general Ortega in agony. King Carlos quickly rolled to his side, and as an able man he took out his sword and rose it up and shouted: "Show ´em wenches, if they are allowed to leave the kitchen!".

A fierce fight took place between the two armies, but eventually the pure quantities of Carlos´ men were able to make the battle the last for the feminist division.

The Feminist division was one of the most feared of the whole civil war. Originating from Basque lands and having trained by the French during the war. The women were in the war, not just for a liberal goverment, but for equality between the two genders. They were not just Spanish, along with the training the French had given to them, a number of French women joined them. Most of the women had lost their husbands in the war, and they were filled with rage, not just for Carlos, but for his army, too.

It was after this battle that the war was truly over. And in January of 1839, the completition of the war was final. A number of social reforms were given to show the good will of Carlos.


As the war was finally over the results could be seen: The economic disaster was huge. More than one and a half million people had either died, or left the country. Three factories were destroyed and the country was in a slight debt.

The buildup began. No factories were build, but instead Africa was colonized furthermore. The French now had experienced a change of political climate and no longer could they make ultimatums to Spain, without suffering the consecuences. The French rush for Africa was however admirable.

It was now in late 1839 that colonialism in Africa halted. All coastal provinces were taken, and no country was yet to move to the dark, inner parts of Africa. It was now clear where the next blow would land...

In December 1839 a quick plan was drafted to use the experienced veterans of the civil war against Fez. The war was nothing much to see, as the Fez armies were at dissarray from day one to the end of the war a year later. The French followed this example by declaring a war on Tunis and later on Al Djazir.

The war on Fez.

It is the climax for the rush to Africa. Only I, Carlos V of Spain, and the French goverment are battling in this field. In an odd turn of events France guarantees our independence. An insult, or a friendly gesture? Having no interest in making France our enemy, we decide to reach out and furthermore increase our relations by sending gifts to them.

Due to the Slesvig question wars, and the overall revoltious atmosphere of late 1840´s we decide to create an alliance with the French. Having all fixed up in the domestic front, I turn my eyes to foreign issues: As it seems Prussia and Austria have been faced with a balanced enemy, as Russia has supported Denmark in the aforementioned Slesvig question war. After these two wars, which end to small expansion of the Russian territory, Russia goes to war with Persia, and with it´s protector, the United Kingdom.


Industrial world is a strange place, strange place indeed. The British having been unable to colonize Africa, have left openings for other countries. Sweden is a big player in Namibia, and believe it or not, USA has taken the control over Djibouti. The fortress in Djibouti is propably there to ensure the import of opium from a more stable market. China has been a bit of a trouble maker, so it is not at all that strange that USA has taken the control of another market area.

The fort of Djibouti seems to have another, more important purpose, as in December of 1852 the Yanks declare a war on Egypt. Perhaps they are trying to build a canal through Suez? My scientist tell me it is possible, due to the short distance between the coasts. A magnificent canal it would be! Uniting Mediterranean with the red sea. And the Yanks controlling it would ensure them to truly be something. The British, however might have other plans...

But for now, we go to war. France has allied itself with Egypt, and so we, as allies of the French, go to war. The war is a colonial war, which makes it impossible for us to attack mainland USA. The only front we find easy enough to fight is the Pacific. Our navy embarks from Barcelona taking thirty thousand men with it to the Philippines, from where we attack to the Yank colonies. It takes us nearly a year, before all former-US islands of Mikronesia, and Papua New Guinea become ours. After that our strike force leaves to Djibouti and rest of Egypt, where it is fighting till the end of this war.

During the war, the Ottoman Empire sees this time as a good opportunity to finish of the Egyptians and so they strike. We go to war, and are able to capture one Ottoman settlement in Mikronesia, making all Islands in Mikronesia ours. The war ends to a small part of Syria given to the Ottos.

We leave both wars, and are at peace in 1853, although blessed with new areas in Mikronesia. We now decide to furthermore expand our Asian empire: A declaration of war is sent to Brunei. Our economist are extremely happy, afterall incorporating the wood rich areas of Brunei in September the same year, puts us one step closer to self-sufficiency.


The Yanks have found a good peace for themselves in July of 1854: Both Crete and Cyprus, along with some mainland Egypt becomes theirs.



Some maps of the time:

Africa

Egypt

Far-East

Oceania

Central America


Spain in 1854: A little country with 21 million people. Colonies include Mikronesia, West coast of Africa, Cuba, part of Borneo and the Phillippines.



Speculations of the future:

-We will propably stay loyal to the French we have too much business going on to hurt our relations intentionally.
-UK might become hostile to us.
-USA is our number one enemy, OE is the second.
-The rise of Japan might shake my Asian empire.
-Portugal is doing relatively good in Africa, maybe we should incorporate their colonies to our mighty empire?
-Russia is doing good, might stand in our way in the future.
-Sardinia-Piedmonte is growing strong. We are obligied to support two sicilies from them.

"The world will be at war, alliances are being made now... On whose side will YOU stand? That´s the spirit of today. " -Carlos V of Spain July of 1854.
 
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Good update. Your doing much better then I can ever do as Spain. And its interesting to see how the AI is acting. One thing you can say about this game is it rarely turns out the same way everytime. Ive never seen the US take land from Egypt.

But I have one issue. Your Screenshots take up just a little too much room. If you could reduce their size, or cut some of the screen out, it would make reading the AAR easier.
 

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Good update, you are doing incredibly well playing Spain, especially under Carlos banner. Anyway if I was you, expand into Korea or Japan since you have territories in Asia. Korea will provide you good resources and a good POP base aswell plus their Armies are weak so definatly an area to expand into too. Anyway update soon!
 

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Estonianzulu said:
But I have one issue. Your Screenshots take up just a little too much room. If you could reduce their size, or cut some of the screen out, it would make reading the AAR easier.

I make the pics links. That will solve it, right?

I don´t knwo how to resize, so that´s kind of a problem.

Anyhow thanks for the feedback all.

I will be posting the next chapter tomorrow, or the day after that.
 

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Yeah, very good so far. I am also surprised to see the US as a global player so early. Probably a wise decision to cosy up to France. If anything, high relations with them will allow for easier province swapping or purchasing if you choose that route.
 

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1854 - 1863

After the war in Egypt we rebase our veteranary troops back to the philippines. We then begin huge cuts in both military and navy and sacrifice all our available resources for the sake of Spanish industry. Railroad soon unite the Mediterranean and the Bay of Biscay. New liberal reforms are made and soon even the most fiersome fighters of the north are stabilized. A luxury furniture factory is built in Madrid to boost our economy.

In September 1854 we notice a lack of rubber in our country. Rubber has a relatively high market value and as such it is profitable to sell it. United Kingdom and France have split the markets, along with a little share of the Dutch. France is without a doubt the number one producer with it´s Kongloese rubber. We seek for "free" areas of rubber, until finally we find it, close...

A war on Cambodza is declared in 1854, after the quick annexement of the rubber rich land, the spanish continue their triumph to Luang Prapang taking Maekhaum. The Spanish halt there due to both lack of supplies and scare for the Brittish. The Spanish Indochina is protected by Siam and Annam, so to speak.

Some financial minister wants to desamortizate something, and we do so to recieve money for our rising economy.

The almost overly experienced Phillippine troops are sent to Africa after the stabilizing of Cambodza. The troops soon arriving to the Orania hear terrible news: Revolts are happening all over French Algeria. We take the place of heroes and march to the battlefields and strike the revolters down. We soon realize that striking down the ones that pop up will be an endless job if we do not strike down the place where they pop up from: Tripoli.

Uneagerly we declare a war and annex Tripoli. We had to do it, we did it for the sake of peace, but we can keep the areas we captured just to make sure nothing bad will rise these anymore. ;) The annexement takes place in 1857.


Jealous is what you get. UK declares a war on us in January 1858. Sardnia-Piedmonte, Greece and France back us up. After a few months of the war the Italian unification begins, lead by Papal States. We join the war and as such we are now confronted with Austria, Italian minors and UK. Later on even the Ottomans join the fun with a declaration of colonial war.

The war is fierce. Within the first weeks the war we capture the British forts in the Mediterranean, Malta and Gibraltar. General Massimo Y Verioz and his riding battallion use money and power to crack down the little posessions that the British have in Northern Africa. The cavalriers later on arrive to Namibia, in where they die fighting.

Our army besieging Malta soon hears bad news: Our navy has been sunk. To the last ship it has. Our main army has to wait for a year or so for the next set of ships to complete. What a shame.

After the completition of our mobilization we start sending troops to France who is fighting a lonely war of counteroffensives to push the Brits back to the sea, from which they then reattack to an undefended part.

Slowly but surely this endless and pointless phase drains the economies of our nations, and makes the French coasts lose population. Some rumours are heard of the Brits willing to rule Calais once again. May rumours be rumours, we say pushing them back to sea. For five long years we fight them. Both the Spanish and the French navies are all sunk, all of our coasts are attacked as the Brits rule all the seas. Paris is taken and retaken. Sardinia sends us a great quantity of troops, war exhaustion rises, but nothing is achieved. Five long years, indeed.

During this time the Ottomans have cracked down Egypt and finished the war with them and thus with us, Austria withdraws from the war with us, and Papal states take a horrible beating, losing all of it´s army, two provinces to Two Sicilies, and even one to the UK! Vitebro is now a British strong point in the med.

Other world powers, such as Brazil and Russia, see this as an opportunity to strike their neighbours without any fear of an European intervention, numerous wars take place. The American civil war also takes place, but the confederacy is helpless without any intervention. The rebellion lasts for two years surprisingly (1860 - 1862).

In the midst of the war large quantities of rebellious movements rise, both within our and our enemy´s alliance. Asia is the area of which we have no control and soon everything except Mikronesia are riddled with rebels.

The end of the war is closing, but having been too long the people of Cambodza take it as a chance to declare their independence in 1862, an independence which United Kingdom will be eager to support. 8 years we ruled Cambodza, eight long short years...

Finally in March of 1863, only three months after the lost of Cambodza, a peace is made. The British albeit having lost all their control in France in a yet another turn of the tide, are seemingly in a position to demand. We go ahead and offer them all of Brunei. They accept. The war has now come to an end. The grand war has come to an end.

A map of the great war


The cost of the war was horrifying: During the past decade over ten million soldiers had died around the world. Russian, Turkish, Italian, French, British, Spanish, Yank, Dixie, Mexican, Greek and so on... Over ten million. The impact of the war was huge, not just for world economy, but for science and art, too. The hell of war was now behind, and may it remain there, and never should anyone have to fight a war ever again.

The situation called for more than just a singular peace deal, it called for a conference. And so the treaty of Palma was arranged. It was a conference to reshape the world. Fifty years back there was one similar in Vienna, but this time the conference was going to be even grander, this time the deal would prevent all conflicts all together. It was the time of a "Never again" - deal. A deal of "All for one, and one for all".

(Deal in next chapter)
 

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what what what, a player just had his ass handed too him in a war and actually wrote about it.

Yay (in a sick way)... :)

Tough luck, those Brits are tough, just feel fortunate they didnt expand on their Gibralter holdings and let you keep most of your colonies ;)

Nice AAR though
 

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That's too bad about the war, but at least it was only Brunei you had to give up. Keep on trucking and hopefully you will make out a little better as the years move on.
 

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Flavius Aetius said:
what what what, a player just had his ass handed too him in a war and actually wrote about it.

Yay (in a sick way)... :)

Tough luck, those Brits are tough, just feel fortunate they didnt expand on their Gibralter holdings and let you keep most of your colonies ;)

Yes. That is mostly due to rule:
-No loading!!!!! May it go, as it goes.

And anyways I find it refreshing to actually lose a war once in a while and then recover.


Thank you all for the comments by the way.

I am posting the treaty thingie next. It is a mix of savegame editing and neville. I chose all the subjects to be changed by either just common sense (Cyprus and Ionia to Greece), or by a roll of dice (Namibia to Sweden).

But more of that soon. ;)
 

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The Treaty Of Palma

The Treaty of Palma. (1863)

In 1863 diplomats, rulers and officers from around the world arrived to Palma, which by then had been closed of from the public. Twenty thousand or more men were now ready to reshape the map of the world, and thus reshape the future.

The main reason behind the conference, and eventually the treaty was to remove all wars alltogether. No nation would ever rise up in arms with another.

The treaty had so many arguments, and so many crossed interests that eventually it was up to a roll of dice. But everyone was to agree on the decisions made, no one had the right to Veto.

The treaty was similar to the one in Wien, just half a century back: Maps we reshaped, old countries were split up, others were made. It was a time of peaceful changes in Europe.


Changes by nation:

United Kingdom:

1.Lose Vitebro (to Two Sicilies) and Ionian Islands (To Greece)
2.Gain New Zealand.
3.Gain Merida from Mexico.
4.Lose Borneo to the Netherlands.

France:

1.Lose all claims for Tchad and Niger.
2.Lose Kordufan to Egypt.
3.Gain Nice and Chamberry for Sardinia Piedmonte.

United States of America:

1.Gain all of Egypt´s provinces that coast the Read sea and Sinai. (For the Canal they started to build)
2.Lose all posessions east of the coastal provinces.
3.Gain Egypt as a satellite.
4.Lose Cyprus to Ottoman Empire, and Crete to Greece.
5.Gain the rest of California from Mexico. Lose everything South of Rio Grande to Mexico.

Egypt:

1.Gain all claims, become a satellite of USA, and thus become civilized in the eyes of the Western nations
2.Lose all provinces in Syria to OE, and the aforementioned provinces to USA.
3.Gain humongous techinal and financial boost.

Ottoman Empire:

1.Lose all posessions east of Sinai to Spain. (Northern part of Libya)
2.Gain Cyprus and all remaining parts of Egypt in Syria.
3.Gain humongous techinal and financial boost.

Greece:

1.Gain Crete and Ionian Islands.
2.Lose all claims for Ottoman Cyprus.

The Netherlands:

1.Gain Borneo.
2.Gain Sunda Islands.

Russia:

1.Gain Turkestan and Sakhalin from China.
2.Lose Miscalleneous colonies in Borneo, New Zealand and Sunda.
3.Lose Kuril Islands to Japan.
4.Gain humongous techinal and financial boost.

Two Sicilies:

1.Gain all Southern Italy.
2.Lose everything North of the Border.
3.Give up all claims for the rest of Italy.

Sardinia-Piedmonte:

1.Gain all Northern Italy.
2.Lose Nice and Chambery to France.
3.Give up all claims for the rest of Italy.

Sweden:

1.Gain Namibia.
2.Lose Bonin to Japan.

Spain:

1.Lose Namibia.
2.Lose all Egyptian lands.
3.Gain full claims on Libya, Tchad and Niger.

Japan:

1.Gain Bonin and Kuril Islands.
2.Gain Technological boost.



No-one from South America arrived, leaving the commitee no other choice than to leave that area without guard. It was known that Brazil had expanded rapidly within the last few years, but no-one knew how much. The only area of somewhat civilization was Venezuela, whose independence was guaranteed.


In order to enforce the above claims, a commitee of world powers was organized to guard the happening of peace. A sort of a military alliance was organized. The organization gained the name of NATO, Never Again That´s the Oath. All leading military nations signed the treaty of NATO: UK, USA, France, Russia, Spain, Austria, OE and Japan.

Further more to enforce the decisions made a new global commision was founded, later to be known as the UN, the United Never-againers.

Maps of changes to be made in the Treaty of Palma 1863:

The split of Italy

Egypt

Namibia

Orient

North America

South AMerica


With the organiztion of UN and NATO, it seemed that a final eternal peace was finally found.... Or was it? Only time would tell.
 
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Very interesting peace deal. That was some editing you must have had to do. Seems like you've made things a bit tougher for the folks in the eastern Med., and perhaps yourself, but you did gain those claims on Egypt and such. Will there be a war with the US at some point? What is most fascinating is how early this all happened. The next half-century should prove to be rather exciting, one would think.
 

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Yes. That is mostly due to rule:

And anyways I find it refreshing to actually lose a war once in a while and then recover.


Thank you all for the comments by the way.

I am posting the treaty thingie next. It is a mix of savegame editing and neville. I chose all the subjects to be changed by either just common sense (Cyprus and Ionia to Greece), or by a roll of dice (Namibia to Sweden).

But more of that soon. ;)



But just because they say they have that rule

A) Doesn't mean they enforce it
B) Doesn't mean they wont just stop posting in the AAR all of a sudden :)
C) Just mention the war in passing... instead of explaining it.

Interesting peace deal as well.